It seems to be about 0.1 difference max. There are enough legacies floating around these schools that some of them will be near the top of the class (I.e if there are 10 Harvard legacies, Harvard will take the two strongest.) |
Not without hooks. Yes with hooks. |
Not from my DC's class if unhooked.... hooked, yes. |
I personally know an UNHOOKED 2024 Sidwell grad going to an Ivy with a GPA in the very low 3.8 range. |
That’s great. Anyway unusual ECs |
| What about from GDS? |
Look at the thread’s title. GDS isn’t a Big 3 school. |
Probably not worth having a fight over what schools counts as a big 3. But GDS did have quite a year w these schools this year - at least 9 at these schools. It would be helpful to hear from gds parents if these metrics apply to gds -3.8 range for hooked or maybe for lower ivies and 3.9 for top ivies for unhooked. |
Its all splitting hairs between GDS/Sidwell/NCS/STA. Kids from the other schools right behind these are getting into great schools as well. Really for any of these schools its hard to get a 3.8+ unweighted GPA with rigor. 3.8 is basically straight As with some A- mixed in. At these schools its very challenging to get a straight A in a writing or humanities class at least for freshman and sophomore year, so there are your A-. Its also very hard to get straight As in the "killer" courses like the APUSH equivalent and the AP++ hard science and calc courses, so basically you have an A- or two in the early year humanities and then an A- or two in the most rigorous courses in the later years and are perfect aside from this. Plus they are a three-sport athlete, captain of at least one, maybe play club, and are trying to get recruited. And they volunteered with regularity at personal narrative charity and they also got a national award for math or science, and a college book award junior year, and started a non-profit that supported their narrative charity in a significant way, and one of their grandparents had a parent who was from Argentina, and they are class president and they count as first gen since both parents went to oxford and Cambridge, so did not attend school in the US system. I mean that's ALL they need to do to get into these top schools. Ill save my smart kid the nervous break down and ED to somewhere realistic. |
Great - so that's ONE. It's very rare. |
Guess how many with high 3.8 and rigor that do not get into T20? Many. |
A billionaire would not be asking this question |
This is key. |
I need a nap just reading it. |
ONE!!!!!’ Yea!!!! There is hope after all! |