If you had a negative experience traveling to Disney, can you share why?

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

How would you even know? It's not like you can tell them by sight. They are there in the LL and you would never know who is who. Ever wondered why the LL wait can be 20-30 minutes? That's why.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

And unlike everyone else, they can ride it again and again. Genie+ and ILL limits you to 1x a day. Different rules lead to a very different experience.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

Learned 3 trips ago that this isn’t true. I logged on at 7 for a LL and got nothing. As I was walking by complaining about it the concierge heard me and said “they don’t release them all at once. Try again in a few minutes and keep refreshing.” I did exactly that and voilà! got us a LL for 8:30 am. You just need to know the hacks.

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Anonymous wrote:On what planet would waiting in lines for hours and spending $200 per day on crappy lunches for your family be fun? And for thousands of dollars? The appeal of Disney World is just something I'll never wrap my brain around. Might as well travel abroad and expose your kids to different cultures and get way better food, and all for a similar price as Disney.

You don’t really wait all say. With Genie+ you wait like 20 minutes and it goes by fast because of the anticipation and the pre-ride features. Food isn’t great, I’ll give you that. But if you don’t enjoy rides and theming then sure, not for you. It’s ultimately for your kids anyway, who, while they may be enriched by foreign travel, would usually have more fun at Disney.

We definitely had moments we didn’t have fun - overstimulated, no where to sit, claustrophobia attacks (me!) - but overall it was very fun. If it had been hotter or my kid less regulated it would have been terrible. But he surprised me with how much he loved the rides and also all the animatronics (even Hall of Presidents) so we had a great time. A few of the rides really legitimately knocked my socks off too (Soarin’, Thunder Mountain at night) - but if I hated rides it probably would have been not fun at all.

Yeah, that works until everyone buys genie+. Then you'll need to spend even more when Disney comes out with genie+ premium deluxe to sell you what you got before everyone did the same as you.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

How would you even know? It's not like you can tell them by sight. They are there in the LL and you would never know who is who. Ever wondered why the LL wait can be 20-30 minutes? That's why.

My point is we hardly ever had to wait. So DAS or not, no one was making us wait longer. I can’t think of one time in the last 5 years or so where we had to wait 30 min with a lightning lane. Without, sure. But with? No.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

Learned 3 trips ago that this isn’t true. I logged on at 7 for a LL and got nothing. As I was walking by complaining about it the concierge heard me and said “they don’t release them all at once. Try again in a few minutes and keep refreshing.” I did exactly that and voilà! got us a LL for 8:30 am. You just need to know the hacks.

Didn't work at all that way for me so don't bank on it. Was on at 7am (last week) and got Slinky Dog for 9:15 PM!! At like 7:00:04. Tried to modify all day long and nothing. Ended up just going stand by and the stated wait time was 60 mins and it only took 30. So, alls well that ends well.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

How would you even know? It's not like you can tell them by sight. They are there in the LL and you would never know who is who. Ever wondered why the LL wait can be 20-30 minutes? That's why.

My point is we hardly ever had to wait. So DAS or not, no one was making us wait longer. I can’t think of one time in the last 5 years or so where we had to wait 30 min with a lightning lane. Without, sure. But with? No.

I guess your mileage may vary. It happens to plenty of other people.

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I see the Das-Basher has arrived in this thread!

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

Learned 3 trips ago that this isn’t true. I logged on at 7 for a LL and got nothing. As I was walking by complaining about it the concierge heard me and said “they don’t release them all at once. Try again in a few minutes and keep refreshing.” I did exactly that and voilà! got us a LL for 8:30 am. You just need to know the hacks.

Didn't work at all that way for me so don't bank on it. Was on at 7am (last week) and got Slinky Dog for 9:15 PM!! At like 7:00:04. Tried to modify all day long and nothing. Ended up just going stand by and the stated wait time was 60 mins and it only took 30. So, alls well that ends well.

Oh that’s a bummer. We’ve had 100% success with this method. Sorry it didn’t work for you, but glad you got on Slinky Dog anyway!

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To mitigate the log jam they created by selling more tickets than can handle they took out the majority of the seating. Extremely overpriced with the worst food you’ll ever eat. And if you stay there it feels like your in a prison camp.

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We go often while visiting family. The worst trip we ever had was in November when it was really hot. Normally we're there in January, when you appreciate that it's not snowing. I think the key is planning based on weather, planning based on crowds and liking where you stay. We also have started doing the after hours events, like the Halloween party and the Christmas event. Those are a lot of fun with no crowds.

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Anonymous wrote:To mitigate the log jam they created by selling more tickets than can handle they took out the majority of the seating. Extremely overpriced with the worst food you’ll ever eat. And if you stay there it feels like your in a prison camp.

The table service restaurants should just be avoided. They are overpriced, take too long, and the food is mediocre. You get what you'd expect from quick service but the prices aren't bad for kids meals. My kids ate a lot of cuties, apple slices, apple sauce, and could get milk with most meals, so it's not all bad news.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

How would you even know? It's not like you can tell them by sight. They are there in the LL and you would never know who is who. Ever wondered why the LL wait can be 20-30 minutes? That's why.

My point is we hardly ever had to wait. So DAS or not, no one was making us wait longer. I can’t think of one time in the last 5 years or so where we had to wait 30 min with a lightning lane. Without, sure. But with? No.

right - DAS doesn’t make the wait longer because Disney has an algorithim to keep the LL wait down by limiting the number of slots. DAS makes it harder to get a LL slot. I have no complaints about how well Genie+ worked in terms of how long the wait was, but the lottery aspect of scheduling rides due to limited slots is what reduced its utility.