If you had a negative experience traveling to Disney, can you share why?

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

Learned 3 trips ago that this isn’t true. I logged on at 7 for a LL and got nothing. As I was walking by complaining about it the concierge heard me and said “they don’t release them all at once. Try again in a few minutes and keep refreshing.” I did exactly that and voilà! got us a LL for 8:30 am. You just need to know the hacks.

Didn't work at all that way for me so don't bank on it. Was on at 7am (last week) and got Slinky Dog for 9:15 PM!! At like 7:00:04. Tried to modify all day long and nothing. Ended up just going stand by and the stated wait time was 60 mins and it only took 30. So, alls well that ends well.

Yes; you can see this in the data they publish.

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Anonymous wrote: I see the Das-Basher has arrived in this thread!

Why do you think Disney changed the policy?

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Check out Brooke raybould IG stories/ reels for her Disney trip this week… looks exhausting and frustrating!

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

How would you know how many spots were taken by DAS users at the beginning of the day? Under the old system, slots for DAS users to reserve rides in advance were limited. Large numbers of DAS users could not take up LLs before the parks even open.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

Learned 3 trips ago that this isn’t true. I logged on at 7 for a LL and got nothing. As I was walking by complaining about it the concierge heard me and said “they don’t release them all at once. Try again in a few minutes and keep refreshing.” I did exactly that and voilà! got us a LL for 8:30 am. You just need to know the hacks.

Didn't work at all that way for me so don't bank on it. Was on at 7am (last week) and got Slinky Dog for 9:15 PM!! At like 7:00:04. Tried to modify all day long and nothing. Ended up just going stand by and the stated wait time was 60 mins and it only took 30. So, alls well that ends well.

Yes; you can see this in the data they publish.

Agree. I was using this site to help prioritize: https://www.thrill-data.com/lightning-lane/wdw

So I don't exactly believe anyone said they waltzed in at 830 and got an immediate LL for something that sold out at 730am. Probably wasn't for a popular ride. If you get one of the last LL it's going to be late in the evening. But if you got lucky and randomly scooped one up I would call that just luck and not a strategy I would build my day around.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

Learned 3 trips ago that this isn’t true. I logged on at 7 for a LL and got nothing. As I was walking by complaining about it the concierge heard me and said “they don’t release them all at once. Try again in a few minutes and keep refreshing.” I did exactly that and voilà! got us a LL for 8:30 am. You just need to know the hacks.

Didn't work at all that way for me so don't bank on it. Was on at 7am (last week) and got Slinky Dog for 9:15 PM!! At like 7:00:04. Tried to modify all day long and nothing. Ended up just going stand by and the stated wait time was 60 mins and it only took 30. So, alls well that ends well.

Yes; you can see this in the data they publish.

Agree. I was using this site to help prioritize: https://www.thrill-data.com/lightning-lane/wdw

So I don't exactly believe anyone said they waltzed in at 830 and got an immediate LL for something that sold out at 730am. Probably wasn't for a popular ride. If you get one of the last LL it's going to be late in the evening. But if you got lucky and randomly scooped one up I would call that just luck and not a strategy I would build my day around.

Never said I waltzed in at 8:30 and got a lightening lane. I didn’t get a LL in the first group of slots released at 7am, so I tried going in again in about 15 min (after walking by the concierge and getting the tip), and that’s when I got the 8:30 LL. So you’re right - your scenario never happened. This was for Rise of the Resistance.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

Learned 3 trips ago that this isn’t true. I logged on at 7 for a LL and got nothing. As I was walking by complaining about it the concierge heard me and said “they don’t release them all at once. Try again in a few minutes and keep refreshing.” I did exactly that and voilà! got us a LL for 8:30 am. You just need to know the hacks.

Didn't work at all that way for me so don't bank on it. Was on at 7am (last week) and got Slinky Dog for 9:15 PM!! At like 7:00:04. Tried to modify all day long and nothing. Ended up just going stand by and the stated wait time was 60 mins and it only took 30. So, alls well that ends well.

Yes; you can see this in the data they publish.

Agree. I was using this site to help prioritize: https://www.thrill-data.com/lightning-lane/wdw

So I don't exactly believe anyone said they waltzed in at 830 and got an immediate LL for something that sold out at 730am. Probably wasn't for a popular ride. If you get one of the last LL it's going to be late in the evening. But if you got lucky and randomly scooped one up I would call that just luck and not a strategy I would build my day around.

Your own link shows only Slinky dog sold out by 7:55, Remy by 9:30. Everything else sold out much later, or is still available. It’s really not that daunting.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

Learned 3 trips ago that this isn’t true. I logged on at 7 for a LL and got nothing. As I was walking by complaining about it the concierge heard me and said “they don’t release them all at once. Try again in a few minutes and keep refreshing.” I did exactly that and voilà! got us a LL for 8:30 am. You just need to know the hacks.

Didn't work at all that way for me so don't bank on it. Was on at 7am (last week) and got Slinky Dog for 9:15 PM!! At like 7:00:04. Tried to modify all day long and nothing. Ended up just going stand by and the stated wait time was 60 mins and it only took 30. So, alls well that ends well.

Yes; you can see this in the data they publish.

Agree. I was using this site to help prioritize: https://www.thrill-data.com/lightning-lane/wdw

So I don't exactly believe anyone said they waltzed in at 830 and got an immediate LL for something that sold out at 730am. Probably wasn't for a popular ride. If you get one of the last LL it's going to be late in the evening. But if you got lucky and randomly scooped one up I would call that just luck and not a strategy I would build my day around.

Your own link shows only Slinky dog sold out by 7:55, Remy by 9:30. Everything else sold out much later, or is still available. It’s really not that daunting.

That was one day's example. It literally sold out at 7:04 last week the day I was there. Each day varies. And if it sells out at 930PM you get a very late return time. You can roll the dice and refresh all day to try to get a LL or you can pay attention to how and when they sell out and plan accordingly. I got to ride exactly what I wanted every day I was there.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

Learned 3 trips ago that this isn’t true. I logged on at 7 for a LL and got nothing. As I was walking by complaining about it the concierge heard me and said “they don’t release them all at once. Try again in a few minutes and keep refreshing.” I did exactly that and voilà! got us a LL for 8:30 am. You just need to know the hacks.

Didn't work at all that way for me so don't bank on it. Was on at 7am (last week) and got Slinky Dog for 9:15 PM!! At like 7:00:04. Tried to modify all day long and nothing. Ended up just going stand by and the stated wait time was 60 mins and it only took 30. So, alls well that ends well.

Yes; you can see this in the data they publish.

Agree. I was using this site to help prioritize: https://www.thrill-data.com/lightning-lane/wdw

So I don't exactly believe anyone said they waltzed in at 830 and got an immediate LL for something that sold out at 730am. Probably wasn't for a popular ride. If you get one of the last LL it's going to be late in the evening. But if you got lucky and randomly scooped one up I would call that just luck and not a strategy I would build my day around.

Your own link shows only Slinky dog sold out by 7:55, Remy by 9:30. Everything else sold out much later, or is still available. It’s really not that daunting.

That was one day's example. It literally sold out at 7:04AM last week the day I was there. Each day varies. And if it sells out at 930PM you get a very late return time. You can roll the dice and refresh all day to try to get a LL or you can pay attention to how and when they sell out and plan accordingly. I got to ride exactly what I wanted every day I was there.

Sorry if it sells out at 930AM you get a late evening return time. The only hiccup I had that day was Slinky Dog but, as I said, the wait time was much shorter than expected so it worked out anyway.

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It doesn't even sound fun anymore! It's been 10 years since we went.

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I haven't read all the responses, but take this for what it's worth. I work as a travel planner for a Disney-focused agency, and I refuse to travel there myself. I have done 12 Disney cruises however and our family loves them. No crowds, no heat, and we have seen a good chuck of the world including Alaska, Iceland, Norway, the Mediterranean, Greece.

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Anonymous wrote:I think there are more Disney adults than Disney kids.

This. The obsessed adults ruin it for kids. So many of them have the DAS pass, go all the time, skip the lines, and make little kids who are maybe there for the first time have to stand and endure the lines when they already have so little patience. I mean why not go all the time when you barely have to wait in line and can ride as often as you want, that's the entitled attitude. Hopefully the new rules make it a better experience for everyone, especially kids.

I agree with this. I also wish they limited DAS passes to once a year or maybe twice. I have a friend I grew up with that goes weekly or even multiple times a week and she has DAS passes. I’m all about accessibility but surely people realize that if you go nonstop that means others are waiting in lines even longer?

I don’t agree with this. We go just about every year and if you know how to use Genie + and LL’s you won’t have to wait more than 30 min tops for any ride; most much less than that.

What is there to disagree with? Disney realized it was getting abused in this manner and updated the rules. It was being used far more in the past few years than ever before, as people want to avoid paying for Genie+. It's not that there are suddenly 3x as many people with disabilities from a few years ago. It was a loophole that got closed.

I disagree that DAS users were negatively impacting us. They clearly weren’t. Our lines weren’t longer because of them.

It was much harder to get LL slots with regular Genie+ because DAS was taking all of them. That’s why it would be so absurdly hard to book popular rides like 7 Dwarves and Slinky Dog. It also in theory made standby waits longer because so many people had LL priority through DAS. This is why Disney had to get ahold of the situation - because a big ride like Tiana would end up 100% DAS and nobody else could get on except in a 2 hr standby line. I think Genie+ worked really well for us but in part because we didn’t prioritize the super popular rides. At the end of the day it IS a bit absurd that to get a Genie+ slot on Slinky I had to be refreshing the app at 6:59am …

I mean I’m glad Disney changed the system but the DAS system specifically didn’t affect us at all. Not even for the popular rides. If you know how to work the system you won’t have a problem. We never do.

I’m not sure what you mean by that. It’s basically impossible to get some of the more popular rides if you don’t pick them at 6:59am. We still had a good time, but no, I don’t think it’s fair that most of the lightening lane spots were taken by DAS.

Learned 3 trips ago that this isn’t true. I logged on at 7 for a LL and got nothing. As I was walking by complaining about it the concierge heard me and said “they don’t release them all at once. Try again in a few minutes and keep refreshing.” I did exactly that and voilà! got us a LL for 8:30 am. You just need to know the hacks.

Didn't work at all that way for me so don't bank on it. Was on at 7am (last week) and got Slinky Dog for 9:15 PM!! At like 7:00:04. Tried to modify all day long and nothing. Ended up just going stand by and the stated wait time was 60 mins and it only took 30. So, alls well that ends well.

Yes; you can see this in the data they publish.

Agree. I was using this site to help prioritize: https://www.thrill-data.com/lightning-lane/wdw

So I don't exactly believe anyone said they waltzed in at 830 and got an immediate LL for something that sold out at 730am. Probably wasn't for a popular ride. If you get one of the last LL it's going to be late in the evening. But if you got lucky and randomly scooped one up I would call that just luck and not a strategy I would build my day around.

Never said I waltzed in at 8:30 and got a lightening lane. I didn’t get a LL in the first group of slots released at 7am, so I tried going in again in about 15 min (after walking by the concierge and getting the tip), and that’s when I got the 8:30 LL. So you’re right - your scenario never happened. This was for Rise of the Resistance.

You realize that Rise of the Resistance is ILL and not just LL, right? It works very differently and they are much easier to get. So I wouldn't use this strategy at all for regular LL. Apples and oranges.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that Disney is too accessible. This makes it super crowded and unpleasant. For the same amount of money you can have luxurious vacation
elsewhere. Unpopular opinion Disney needs to raise prices to reduce crowds and elevate guest experience.. We went last year and hated it.

This.

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I went once as a child and sort of vaguely didn’t it? I don’t remember clearly but we visited magic kingdom and I don’t remember anything but heat and lines and the rides not being anywhere near as fun as the water park near my home. I went back with friends who’d been before for a long weekend in the fall when I was in college — THAT was magical. It was rainy most of the weekend so there were almost no lines and we got to try all the rides and go on the ones we liked several times. We were all engineering majors and friends from a theater club so we spent a ton of time geeking out about how the rides and effects were done. For me, Disney was way more fun as an adult and I don’t plan to bring my kids unless we get given free or cheap tickets and/or have the whole thing planned by someone who knows the parks really well.

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You have to be strategic when you go to Disney. You have to know what your priorities are, show up early, and get genie+ or lightning lanes for rides that have a wait.

You have to accept that you won’t do everything, or possible spend a week there doing multiple days in each park at a leisurely place.

Standing in hot lines with stressed out parents is never going to be fun for kids. Avoid the lines and go back to your hotel midday for a rest/swim.