speed or technical ability? Age 11.

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Anonymous wrote:Big/fast players play in MLS/NWSL. Technical athletic players play in European leagues.

Even past his prime now, Messi still dominates in MLS due to his incredible technical skills.
love how folks go to messi. Hes got strength and speed to go with insane skill..


Which one did he develop first?

Not sure if this is meant to be a rhetorical question, but wouldn’t it be skill? He famously had a childhood growth disorder and when you’re THAT young, like 9 and under, size does correlate more strongly with strength and speed.

The problem with US soccer is that they never really get out of this mindset.


Maybe the problem with US soccer is that, even if they wanted to, they can’t get out of this mindset because most US coaches don’t have and can’t teach technical skills.
no issue is the top performing males play other sports. Soccer gets the leftovers.. and the size and speed will always best technical that are slow and small. Lets be honest they are playing soccer in US because they cant compete in the other sports.


Maybe in some regions, but this is not the case in the DMV.
no very much the case.. area is highly recruited for football
Bball and baseball. I could take 2 RBs who never played soccer. Teach them first touch and a ball strike.. and they would dominate.


They are not taught the rest and the result is frustrating for everyone witnessing it except for the dummy coach. But rinse and repeat it goes.
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Anonymous wrote:Big/fast players play in MLS/NWSL. Technical athletic players play in European leagues.

Even past his prime now, Messi still dominates in MLS due to his incredible technical skills.
love how folks go to messi. Hes got strength and speed to go with insane skill..


Which one did he develop first?

Not sure if this is meant to be a rhetorical question, but wouldn’t it be skill? He famously had a childhood growth disorder and when you’re THAT young, like 9 and under, size does correlate more strongly with strength and speed.

The problem with US soccer is that they never really get out of this mindset.


Maybe the problem with US soccer is that, even if they wanted to, they can’t get out of this mindset because most US coaches don’t have and can’t teach technical skills.
no issue is the top performing males play other sports. Soccer gets the leftovers.. and the size and speed will always best technical that are slow and small. Lets be honest they are playing soccer in US because they cant compete in the other sports.


Maybe in some regions, but this is not the case in the DMV.


LMFAO.
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Last year, my DS travel team coach decided to recruit some big, fast lacrosse players and make them the starting forwards. The kids with skills who played club in the offseason were pushed to the backfield.

Guess how many games they lost?
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Define "speed." As your kid develops they need to be fast and technical. Lack of speed (and conditioning) can definitely hold a technical player back.
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Anonymous wrote:Speed and Speed At 11
As a coach, if there is athleticism, I’ll take speed and teach them the rest.


Completely disagree! Fundamentals and footwork are needed at this age. Otherwise, you could just go to a local Track and Field team and pull the fastest kids and say that they should be starting soccer players. Makes no sense!

If you are on a travel team that does not value fundamentals and footwork from an early age than that coach is an idiot and you need to get your DC to a better team immediately!


This! 100%
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Anonymous wrote:Big/fast players play in MLS/NWSL. Technical athletic players play in European leagues.

Even past his prime now, Messi still dominates in MLS due to his incredible technical skills.
love how folks go to messi. Hes got strength and speed to go with insane skill..


Which one did he develop first?

Not sure if this is meant to be a rhetorical question, but wouldn’t it be skill? He famously had a childhood growth disorder and when you’re THAT young, like 9 and under, size does correlate more strongly with strength and speed.

The problem with US soccer is that they never really get out of this mindset.


Maybe the problem with US soccer is that, even if they wanted to, they can’t get out of this mindset because most US coaches don’t have and can’t teach technical skills.
no issue is the top performing males play other sports. Soccer gets the leftovers.. and the size and speed will always best technical that are slow and small. Lets be honest they are playing soccer in US because they cant compete in the other sports.


Winner of most uninformed and dunce comment of the week
nope truth. Womens soccer in US has no problem winning at national level.. why ….its a primary sport…. I know its upsetting that your kid lacks the physical attributes needed. But awesome they can scissor the heck on a ball.. all coaches are going to see is them lose the ball after 10 yards.
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Anonymous wrote:Big/fast players play in MLS/NWSL. Technical athletic players play in European leagues.

Even past his prime now, Messi still dominates in MLS due to his incredible technical skills.
love how folks go to messi. Hes got strength and speed to go with insane skill..


Which one did he develop first?

Not sure if this is meant to be a rhetorical question, but wouldn’t it be skill? He famously had a childhood growth disorder and when you’re THAT young, like 9 and under, size does correlate more strongly with strength and speed.

The problem with US soccer is that they never really get out of this mindset.


Maybe the problem with US soccer is that, even if they wanted to, they can’t get out of this mindset because most US coaches don’t have and can’t teach technical skills.
no issue is the top performing males play other sports. Soccer gets the leftovers.. and the size and speed will always best technical that are slow and small. Lets be honest they are playing soccer in US because they cant compete in the other sports.


Winner of most uninformed and dunce comment of the week
nope truth. Womens soccer in US has no problem winning at national level.. why ….its a primary sport…. I know its upsetting that your kid lacks the physical attributes needed. But awesome they can scissor the heck on a ball.. all coaches are going to see is them lose the ball after 10 yards.


The USWNT was dominant because the rest of the world didn’t invest in women’s soccer. Now that they do they are so far incrementally on the decline.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Big/fast players play in MLS/NWSL. Technical athletic players play in European leagues.

Even past his prime now, Messi still dominates in MLS due to his incredible technical skills.
love how folks go to messi. Hes got strength and speed to go with insane skill..


Which one did he develop first?

Not sure if this is meant to be a rhetorical question, but wouldn’t it be skill? He famously had a childhood growth disorder and when you’re THAT young, like 9 and under, size does correlate more strongly with strength and speed.

The problem with US soccer is that they never really get out of this mindset.


Maybe the problem with US soccer is that, even if they wanted to, they can’t get out of this mindset because most US coaches don’t have and can’t teach technical skills.
no issue is the top performing males play other sports. Soccer gets the leftovers.. and the size and speed will always best technical that are slow and small. Lets be honest they are playing soccer in US because they cant compete in the other sports.


Winner of most uninformed and dunce comment of the week
nope truth. Womens soccer in US has no problem winning at national level.. why ….its a primary sport…. I know its upsetting that your kid lacks the physical attributes needed. But awesome they can scissor the heck on a ball.. all coaches are going to see is them lose the ball after 10 yards.


The USWNT was dominant because the rest of the world didn’t invest in women’s soccer. Now that they do they are so far incrementally on the decline.


1000%
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You can’t learn speed, so….
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Big/fast players play in MLS/NWSL. Technical athletic players play in European leagues.

Even past his prime now, Messi still dominates in MLS due to his incredible technical skills.
love how folks go to messi. Hes got strength and speed to go with insane skill..


Which one did he develop first?

Not sure if this is meant to be a rhetorical question, but wouldn’t it be skill? He famously had a childhood growth disorder and when you’re THAT young, like 9 and under, size does correlate more strongly with strength and speed.

The problem with US soccer is that they never really get out of this mindset.


Maybe the problem with US soccer is that, even if they wanted to, they can’t get out of this mindset because most US coaches don’t have and can’t teach technical skills.
no issue is the top performing males play other sports. Soccer gets the leftovers.. and the size and speed will always best technical that are slow and small. Lets be honest they are playing soccer in US because they cant compete in the other sports.


Winner of most uninformed and dunce comment of the week
nope truth. Womens soccer in US has no problem winning at national level.. why ….its a primary sport…. I know its upsetting that your kid lacks the physical attributes needed. But awesome they can scissor the heck on a ball.. all coaches are going to see is them lose the ball after 10 yards.


The USWNT was dominant because the rest of the world didn’t invest in women’s soccer. Now that they do they are so far incrementally on the decline.


Yes, and as the rest of the world starts to train their girls the way they train their boys (technical skills first) and the US continues to train its girls the way it trains its boys (kickball, not soccer; see US coach and dad comments above), we’re inevitablely going to see the US have a lot less success on the women’s side.
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Everybody says technically ability but we know damn well they really mean speed
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Anonymous wrote:Everybody says technically ability but we know damn well they really mean speed


This:

https://youtu.be/CfTcmqCSTCg?si=vHUK4XDgvNGi8AvS

Both feet, small spaces, quick
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Anonymous wrote:Everybody says technically ability but we know damn well they really mean speed


-HS lacrosse coach in Nebraska that reluctantly accepted soccer duties
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Anonymous wrote:You can’t learn speed, so….


Our kid got a lot faster in one summer we he started doing a strength and conditioning program 2x per week plus a sprint workout on the track 2x per week. Went from slightly below average speed on the team to top 5.
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Anonymous wrote:You can’t learn speed, so….


Our kid got a lot faster in one summer we he started doing a strength and conditioning program 2x per week plus a sprint workout on the track 2x per week. Went from slightly below average speed on the team to top 5.


Where did your kid go for this kind of training?
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