Upper middle class family claiming “full ride (sports) scholarship” to small D3 private college?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know anything about division 3 schools and athletic recruiting. Is this possible?

They are on the lower end of upper middle class. No hooks. Their senior is a good not great athlete. And not an especially noteworthy student. She was not in the most advanced AP courses and her parents kept having her retake the ACT and SAT because her scores were so mediocre. Best ACT sitting was 26 and she was too embarrassed to reveal SAT scores.

You sound nosey and judgmental.

D3 schools don't give money for sports per se, but they can award athletes the Presidential Scholarship or the Excellence Grant or whatever it is that significantly discounts the sticker price. (If they cover all of tuition but not room & board, is that still a full ride? Maybe in this family's telling...) The academic or playing level of the student only matters in comparison to the student body -- if they are seen as a valuable addition *to that school,* the school will throw money their way. So if your kid is rocking a 3.6 and applying to a school where the average admit has a 3.3, those coaches and AOs will ask you to dance.

No, I'm not being nosy or judgmental at all. The 18 year old teen, the father and mother have all recently posted this on social media and are making a big deal about it in conversation. I'm just trying to understand how it's even possible. Not an exceptional athlete, not an exceptional student, and they make way too much for Federal Pell Grant or any means-based awards. Why or how would any college, even a regional small private college, let their child go there for free?

Because the kid as a total package is looked upon as a potential asset to the school. If you want your kid to be eligible for a free ride, look at institutions outside T20. There are scholarships out there that your kid might be able to apply for. You have to make sure they can love the school, but beyond that the opportunities do exist.

Are you the girl's parent? An unhooked UMC kid who played sports and scored 26 on the ACT is literally a dime a dozen. No private college is giving such a kid a full ride.

[Anonymous]

Ffs, either congratulate them or mind your own business.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know anything about division 3 schools and athletic recruiting. Is this possible?

They are on the lower end of upper middle class. No hooks. Their senior is a good not great athlete. And not an especially noteworthy student. She was not in the most advanced AP courses and her parents kept having her retake the ACT and SAT because her scores were so mediocre. Best ACT sitting was 26 and she was too embarrassed to reveal SAT scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this for real? OP how do you know all this?

+1 Good reminder not to share too much about your kids. This kid's parents probably thought they were commiserating with a friend over her testing and now she's on here talking about the girl like she's an idiot because she doesn't want to believe anything good could have happened for her. Gross.

Don't put it on social media, don't participate in the college athletic commitment ceremony in the high school gym, and don't spread falsehoods to other parents about your kid's alleged full ride scholarship to a small division 3 college.

You seem oddly triggered by this. Lighten up

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this for real? OP how do you know all this?

+1, weird that OP would know details about this kid's grades, course selection, and test scores, but also be distant enough from the situation to be unsure about the details of the scholarship. Betting OP is a family member (likely aunt) and possible some/all of her details are wrong or exaggerated anyway.

I’m betting they know the details because they got desperately nosy and started rooting around for them when they saw a post on SM about this child’s scholarship. They got insanely jealous and started convincing themselves it is a lie in order to protect a pathologically frail ego.

[Anonymous]

There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this for real? OP how do you know all this?

PS - 26 is perfectly acceptable ACT score for many colleges

My child got lower and went T30 because of sports. People hate athletes.

People “hate” athletes because many would have absolutely no chance getting accepted to highly selective schools on their academic achievements, while our kids excel beyond belief and acceptance (not to mention scholarships) to these same highly selective schools are a lottery. My kid excels both in a niche sport, musical instrument AND academics.

you want a gold star, d-bag?

Ehhh, everybody would prefer having a kid who can perform surgery over a kid that can kick a ball far. No need to be butt hurt your kid falls into the latter.

[Anonymous]

D3s offer merit scholarships. Coaches have pull to get one of their athletes this type of award. It’s very common.

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What an obnoxious post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an athletic full ride at D3 schools. Meaning, even if you are a D1 level athlete and want to attend, say, Randolph Macon College in Ashland, they simply can not come up with any scheme to get you 4 years for free.

- signed, father of a D1 athlete that actually wanted to go to a smaller school and be a student athlete.

Bingo. Parents lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ffs, either congratulate them or mind your own business.

Why would you congratulate someone who is lying to your face?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Is this for real? OP how do you know all this?

PS - 26 is perfectly acceptable ACT score for many colleges

My child got lower and went T30 because of sports. People hate athletes.

People “hate” athletes because many would have absolutely no chance getting accepted to highly selective schools on their academic achievements, while our kids excel beyond belief and acceptance (not to mention scholarships) to these same highly selective schools are a lottery. My kid excels both in a niche sport, musical instrument AND academics.

So? My kid excelled enough not to prep for the ACT, took his 1st score because it met the Ivy index.

He excelled at the school academically and got his school national attention.

Why hate?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know anything about division 3 schools and athletic recruiting. Is this possible?

They are on the lower end of upper middle class. No hooks. Their senior is a good not great athlete. And not an especially noteworthy student. She was not in the most advanced AP courses and her parents kept having her retake the ACT and SAT because her scores were so mediocre. Best ACT sitting was 26 and she was too embarrassed to reveal SAT scores.

You sound nosey and judgmental.

D3 schools don't give money for sports per se, but they can award athletes the Presidential Scholarship or the Excellence Grant or whatever it is that significantly discounts the sticker price. (If they cover all of tuition but not room & board, is that still a full ride? Maybe in this family's telling...) The academic or playing level of the student only matters in comparison to the student body -- if they are seen as a valuable addition *to that school,* the school will throw money their way. So if your kid is rocking a 3.6 and applying to a school where the average admit has a 3.3, those coaches and AOs will ask you to dance.

No, I'm not being nosy or judgmental at all. The 18 year old teen, the father and mother have all recently posted this on social media and are making a big deal about it in conversation. I'm just trying to understand how it's even possible. Not an exceptional athlete, not an exceptional student, and they make way too much for Federal Pell Grant or any means-based awards. Why or how would any college, even a regional small private college, let their child go there for free?

It’s a big deal to them. Stop bending mean.

Yes, it's probably not a free ride, but it's also not your business.

It’s probably free tuition but not free room and board. That’s what we got.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the choice is small school in the middle of nowhere for free or small school in the middle of nowhere for 50k a year it doesn't matter if you are UMC, paying for college in scenario is asanine and quite frankly none of your business. They throw money at kids for a reason, D3 sports is not a cakewalk... all of the extra time and energy for none of the great facilities and playing for nobody. It's basically club ball with a lot of parents in folding chairs on the grass. I know one kid that went to play at some no-name school with 400 students and they had to farm their own food. They were miserable.

Name the school or it didn't happen. And the school can't be Berea.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is this for real? OP how do you know all this?

+1 Good reminder not to share too much about your kids. This kid's parents probably thought they were commiserating with a friend over her testing and now she's on here talking about the girl like she's an idiot because she doesn't want to believe anything good could have happened for her. Gross.

I want other sports parents not to talk to non sports parents about it. It’s amazing how jealous and rude people are. We have many friends who are happy and supportive and watch the games texting us congratulations.

But there is definitely a group of serious haters.

You need to keep it on the down low people turn green