Should I fire my employee or write her up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can't you just tell all your employees to stop talking politics and religion on the job?

I don't see how employee B's opinion on gay marriage results in employee A & B fearing for their lives. That's weird.

Me and another manager talk politics over political newspapers because we're in agreement. Employees A and C aren't in agreement with B, so B is the only one not allowed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You overreacted from the start. You came down hard on one employee when others were doing the same or worse. Now you want to fire her for starting drama but really YOU are the one that started it.

Nobody is afraid for their lives this is just something they said.

You are immature and dealing with people even more immature than you. Nobody needs to be fired. You just need to have a team meeting where you talk about acting professionally in a workplace.

I did not overreact! It's worrisome that people don't want to report employee B. They told me that they didn't know that they could report her. It's employee B's fault. Everything is her fault!

You should be fired. B should be the new manager.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You need to provide training before terminating or writing up

I'd rather fire than train others. This employee needs a wake up call that they're wrong that the LGBTQ+ community doesn't deserve rights! People like that deserve to be fired and their careers destroyed!

You can't fire someone for their political opinion. You are supporting something that is anything but democracy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I can't read that whole thesis statement. But I can't figure out why people would be scared to work with someone who thought a YEAR AGO that gay people were weird.

They are scared for their lives from this employee. It's all Employee B's fault for making them scared to report her to me a year prior. You clearly don't know how to read.

and you (or OP) never explained WHY they are "scared for their lives". That conclusion makes no sense based upon the story told. So either OP is exaggerating to get sympathetic responses or is a troll. I suspecf the latter

They're scared for their lives because they didn't immediately tell me about the inappropriate comment and question. Employee B must've threatened them.

Or they're lying and you're an idiot for believing it. You clearly prefer A and C for whatever reason, and you are horribly unprofessional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can't you just tell all your employees to stop talking politics and religion on the job?

I don't see how employee B's opinion on gay marriage results in employee A & B fearing for their lives. That's weird.

Me and another manager talk politics over political newspapers because we're in agreement. Employees A and C aren't in agreement with B, so B is the only one not allowed.

Agree with us or get fired. Sounds totally legal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can't you just tell all your employees to stop talking politics and religion on the job?

I don't see how employee B's opinion on gay marriage results in employee A & B fearing for their lives. That's weird.

Me and another manager talk politics over political newspapers because we're in agreement. Employees A and C aren't in agreement with B, so B is the only one not allowed.

You can't be serious with this.

JFC you're stupid.

[Anonymous]

Whatever you do, you need not worry you are ruining anyone’s “career.” Working retail is not a career.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Edited version.

My assistant store manager came to me that she and who I will call employee A were talking about gay rights. Within that conversation, employee A stated that employee B made her uncomfortable a year prior because employee B made a comment that the idea of same-sex relationships are weird. Also, in that conversation was another person, who I will call employee C. My assistant store manager told me that employee B made both employee A and C horribly scared of working with B, even though A and B closed multiple times together, that they're scared for their life and that must've been why they didn't say anything until a year later, employee A had been ruminating about the event since a year ago, and that employee B must've gotten up in their faces and intimidated A and C to not speak up.

I talk to both employees and they confirm the allegations. Even though the behavior and incident are a one-off, I still find it totally inappropriate to discuss politics at work and ask if someone believes in God (!).

I then go to employee B, tell her what happened, and she admits to the allegations. B says that she doesn't hate gay people and wants them to have their rights. I Tell her that people are only allowed to talk about politcs is when they're in agreement. Then fast forward three weeks later, on Monday, one my sales leads comes up to me and tells me that the day before that employee B told several employees that they can't discuss speculating other people's sexuality and talking about sex acts because that is sexual harassment. Then employee A comes up to me and tells me her concerns that employee B is massively overstepping. I have to say to them that they won't and they have nothing to be afraid about because they haven't done or said anything wrong.

Employee B is seriously overstepping. She's doing my job! I'm thinking to myself, do I have to write her up again to stop her from harassing her coworkers? I'm at the end of my rope with this associate. Should I fire her?

I still want to fire employee B for harassing everyone and creating drama.

Employee B actually sounds like she may be smarter than you. Just because two people agree on a "controversial" subject doesn't mean it is OK to discuss in the workplace. And employee B is correct. You cannot talk about those things at work as it CAN be considered sexual harassment. Tread carefully OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Edited version.

My assistant store manager came to me that she and who I will call employee A were talking about gay rights. Within that conversation, employee A stated that employee B made her uncomfortable a year prior because employee B made a comment that the idea of same-sex relationships are weird. Also, in that conversation was another person, who I will call employee C. My assistant store manager told me that employee B made both employee A and C horribly scared of working with B, even though A and B closed multiple times together, that they're scared for their life and that must've been why they didn't say anything until a year later, employee A had been ruminating about the event since a year ago, and that employee B must've gotten up in their faces and intimidated A and C to not speak up.

I talk to both employees and they confirm the allegations. Even though the behavior and incident are a one-off, I still find it totally inappropriate to discuss politics at work and ask if someone believes in God (!).

I then go to employee B, tell her what happened, and she admits to the allegations. B says that she doesn't hate gay people and wants them to have their rights. I Tell her that people are only allowed to talk about politcs is when they're in agreement. Then fast forward three weeks later, on Monday, one my sales leads comes up to me and tells me that the day before that employee B told several employees that they can't discuss speculating other people's sexuality and talking about sex acts because that is sexual harassment. Then employee A comes up to me and tells me her concerns that employee B is massively overstepping. I have to say to them that they won't and they have nothing to be afraid about because they haven't done or said anything wrong.

Employee B is seriously overstepping. She's doing my job! I'm thinking to myself, do I have to write her up again to stop her from harassing her coworkers? I'm at the end of my rope with this associate. Should I fire her?

I still want to fire employee B for harassing everyone and creating drama.

Employee B actually sounds like she may be smarter than you. Just because two people agree on a "controversial" subject doesn't mean it is OK to discuss in the workplace. And employee B is correct. You cannot talk about those things at work as it CAN be considered sexual harassment. Tread carefully OP.

+1

If anybody should be fired, it’s everybody except for employee B. Just because you agree on a controversial subject doesn’t mean you get to talk about it. I honestly don’t understand how you don’t see this, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Edited version.

My assistant store manager came to me that she and who I will call employee A were talking about gay rights. Within that conversation, employee A stated that employee B made her uncomfortable a year prior because employee B made a comment that the idea of same-sex relationships are weird. Also, in that conversation was another person, who I will call employee C. My assistant store manager told me that employee B made both employee A and C horribly scared of working with B, even though A and B closed multiple times together, that they're scared for their life and that must've been why they didn't say anything until a year later, employee A had been ruminating about the event since a year ago, and that employee B must've gotten up in their faces and intimidated A and C to not speak up.

I talk to both employees and they confirm the allegations. Even though the behavior and incident are a one-off, I still find it totally inappropriate to discuss politics at work and ask if someone believes in God (!).

I then go to employee B, tell her what happened, and she admits to the allegations. B says that she doesn't hate gay people and wants them to have their rights. I Tell her that people are only allowed to talk about politcs is when they're in agreement. Then fast forward three weeks later, on Monday, one my sales leads comes up to me and tells me that the day before that employee B told several employees that they can't discuss speculating other people's sexuality and talking about sex acts because that is sexual harassment. Then employee A comes up to me and tells me her concerns that employee B is massively overstepping. I have to say to them that they won't and they have nothing to be afraid about because they haven't done or said anything wrong.

Employee B is seriously overstepping. She's doing my job! I'm thinking to myself, do I have to write her up again to stop her from harassing her coworkers? I'm at the end of my rope with this associate. Should I fire her?

I still want to fire employee B for harassing everyone and creating drama.

Employee B actually sounds like she may be smarter than you. Just because two people agree on a "controversial" subject doesn't mean it is OK to discuss in the workplace. And employee B is correct. You cannot talk about those things at work as it CAN be considered sexual harassment. Tread carefully OP.

+1

If anybody should be fired, it’s everybody except for employee B. Just because you agree on a controversial subject doesn’t mean you get to talk about it. I honestly don’t understand how you don’t see this, OP.

Probably because OP wants an echochamber. Op is one of those people.

[Anonymous]

How the heck do you know you're "in agreement" before you start talking politics? Sure you might both be liberal or whatever, but you can't possibly agree on every detail. You're going to be butthurt when one of your employees has a slightly different take on trans bathrooms or something.

[Anonymous]

OP here. I told my employees that they can bring up current and past concerns, even if the past concerns are over a 1+ years old. I will even take on something that happened 5 years ago and punish the person or people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I told my employees that they can bring up current and past concerns, even if the past concerns are over a 1+ years old. I will even take on something that happened 5 years ago and punish the person or people.

Dear OP - this thread died more than two weeks ago. You just resurrected it again today. Why? The answer again is that you don't have the power to fire and hand this over to HR, your owner or whomever hired you. Stop coming back and changing the story and wasting everyone's time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I told my employees that they can bring up current and past concerns, even if the past concerns are over a 1+ years old. I will even take on something that happened 5 years ago and punish the person or people.

OK. 5 years ago, A told me that B agreed with something Trump said about immigration. So what are you doing about it?

[Anonymous]

I am slow on the uptake but this is a troll thread.