University of Florida - Early Admissions Numbers Out (74,300 Application for this current cycle)

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaway from this video is this school is obsessed with elevating their rankings.

+1,000,000

I have heard that a significant number of classes are taught via zoom or just pre-recorded video. And this is not new - has been going on for 20 years.

I have heard this too, and I think the video on the original post mentioned more online initiatives. There were all kinds of strategies to improve statistics in an effort to address deficiencies in the specific metrics used for rankings. Some of these would prove beneficial for students and faculty, but the goal appears to be prioritizing rankings above all else.

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Anonymous wrote:As estimated several times over the past two weeks, OOS acceptance rate comfortably below 10% …

As calculated by you, it was 20 last cycle and likely the same this year. Yield is always much lower for oos so they take more kids per slot than for instate at all state flagship.s

The accept 15K for 6,500 slots. State law impacts OOS enrollment. There’s absolutely no shitty math you can muster to get the OOS acceptance rate above 10%. Sorry that upsets you.

Cites please.

https://ir.aa.ufl.edu/reports/cds-reports/

I’ll add that my OOS kid (36 ACT one-and-done with a 36 in each section, 4.57 GPA at Top 50 public high high school in the U.S., 14 AP classes [with 10 AP tests already in the bag, all with scores of 5], 4-year varsity team sport captain [including state championship during sophomore year], with extensive volunteer and research experience in his area of academic interest, and compelling essays) was accepted by UF, but failed to gain acceptance into the honors college and without a single dime of merit.

It was competitive - very competitive.

Is your DC going to attend UF? Was it their top choice?

UF wasn’t his top choice, and he’s still awaiting admissions decisions from a lot of other schools (15+) - but a majority of those pending decisions will come from Top 25 schools, so we’re bracing for a bloodbath. Meanwhile, he’s interested enough in UF that he’s tagging along on a business trip to FLA later this month to check it out.

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Anonymous wrote:As estimated several times over the past two weeks, OOS acceptance rate comfortably below 10% …

As calculated by you, it was 20 last cycle and likely the same this year. Yield is always much lower for oos so they take more kids per slot than for instate at all state flagship.s

The accept 15K for 6,500 slots. State law impacts OOS enrollment. There’s absolutely no shitty math you can muster to get the OOS acceptance rate above 10%. Sorry that upsets you.

Cites please.

https://ir.aa.ufl.edu/reports/cds-reports/

I’ll add that my OOS kid (36 ACT one-and-done with a 36 in each section, 4.57 GPA at Top 50 public high high school in the U.S., 14 AP classes [with 10 AP tests already in the bag, all with scores of 5], 4-year varsity team sport captain [including state championship during sophomore year], with extensive volunteer and research experience in his area of academic interest, and compelling essays) was accepted by UF, but failed to gain acceptance into the honors college and without a single dime of merit.

It was competitive - very competitive.

That's insane. For Florida. Hope he's going elsewhere!!

We deployed the “cast a very wide net” strategy with him because his area of academic interest isn’t narrowly focused at just a limited number of schools only; and in fact, a majority of the Top 25 schools happen to appear on the list of Top 25 schools in that particular academic area.

UF also happens to be near the very top for doctoral programs in that particular area, so it made the list.

All of that said, there are also some concerns re: political interference at UF, so we’ll have to see how it shakes out.

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Anonymous wrote:As estimated several times over the past two weeks, OOS acceptance rate comfortably below 10% …

As calculated by you, it was 20 last cycle and likely the same this year. Yield is always much lower for oos so they take more kids per slot than for instate at all state flagship.s

The accept 15K for 6,500 slots. State law impacts OOS enrollment. There’s absolutely no shitty math you can muster to get the OOS acceptance rate above 10%. Sorry that upsets you.

Cites please.

https://ir.aa.ufl.edu/reports/cds-reports/

I’ll add that my OOS kid (36 ACT one-and-done with a 36 in each section, 4.57 GPA at Top 50 public high high school in the U.S., 14 AP classes [with 10 AP tests already in the bag, all with scores of 5], 4-year varsity team sport captain [including state championship during sophomore year], with extensive volunteer and research experience in his area of academic interest, and compelling essays) was accepted by UF, but failed to gain acceptance into the honors college and without a single dime of merit.

It was competitive - very competitive.

Is your DC going to attend UF? Was it their top choice?

UF wasn’t his top choice, and he’s still awaiting admissions decisions from a lot of other schools (15+) - but a majority of those pending decisions will come from Top 25 schools, so we’re bracing for a bloodbath. Meanwhile, he’s interested enough in UF that he’s tagging along on a business trip to FLA later this month to check it out.

Good luck to him! It sounds like he will have a lot of great options!

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a DC25. For those with oos kids who applied to UF, what were some of the reasons they loved the school? It is obviously popular, and the rankings are high, but what else? Is the campus and town really great? Sports teams? Vibe of the student body? Scholarships?

We wouldn't be able to visit anytime soon, so your insight is appreciated!

Town is nothing special, it is landlocked. Very big around 40,000. Selling point is relatively low cost. Free for on state.

I attended and go back fairly regularly. The campus and town are nice. I’d say it’s a very typical college town. The area right around campus has a lot of student housing and restaurants/bars. The downtown area is a very typical small town downtown (courthouse, square, restaurants). The areas a little farther from campus feel very suburban, and then you are in a rural area. Sports are big (national championship teams), but if it’s not your thing, there are plenty of other things to do. It has a big music scene. The beach is about an hour away. There are a lot of natural springs in the area, so lots of opportunities to go river tubing or kayaking.

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Anonymous wrote:74,800 total freshman applications

Below are the estimates, based on data released by UF in previous Board of Trustees meetings …

41,500 FL applicants
32,300 OOS applicants

16,000 accepted applicants (all programs)

6,600 slots available (all programs)

13,000 FL accepted applicants x yield rate of 45% = 5,850 enrollments

3,000 OOS accepted applicants x yield rate of 25% = 750 enrollments (11.4% of overall)

16,000 / 74,800 = 21.4 overall accept rate

13,000 / 41,500 = 31.3% FL accept rate

3,000 / 32,300 = 9.3% OOS accept rate

These stats are so interesting to me. Unless they really don't care / don't want the OOS kids to enroll, you would think FL would figure out a better way to figure out OOS acceptances. I mean, they only accept 9.3%, but then 75% of those kids don't attend.

Even the PP who's kid has been accepted...it seems like it is unlikely they will actually attend based on the really high stats and other possible options.

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My daughter got accepted to UF this cycle and she is very likely to attend. In addition to the tuition costs being comparable to VA in-state tuition (specifically W&M and UVA - we are still waiting on W&M RD, but she did get into UVA), UF is incredibly generous with accepting AP credits. My daughter will be going in to UF with nearly 45 (the max allowed) credit and can feasibly graduate in 2.5 years. However, UF offers a number of combined undergraduate and masters programs that can be completed in 4 years, so we will look into that program as well (which allows you to save money on 12 credits for a masters degree). I think it will be a huge advantage to be a 22 year old with a Masters when entering the job market. We will visit the school in a couple weeks for spring break and will hopefully make a decision by then. At this point, we are only waiting on 3 more decisions. However, the only acceptance that might make her not attend UF is if she gets into UPenn (which of course is nearly impossible for everyone).

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Anonymous wrote:Those test scores are lower than I would have thought. I also read UCLA had 173k applications, I’d have thought UF would get more as much as it’s discussed here.

UCLA is has traditionally been the most applied to school in the country.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter got accepted to UF this cycle and she is very likely to attend. In addition to the tuition costs being comparable to VA in-state tuition (specifically W&M and UVA - we are still waiting on W&M RD, but she did get into UVA), UF is incredibly generous with accepting AP credits. My daughter will be going in to UF with nearly 45 (the max allowed) credit and can feasibly graduate in 2.5 years. However, UF offers a number of combined undergraduate and masters programs that can be completed in 4 years, so we will look into that program as well (which allows you to save money on 12 credits for a masters degree). I think it will be a huge advantage to be a 22 year old with a Masters when entering the job market. We will visit the school in a couple weeks for spring break and will hopefully make a decision by then. At this point, we are only waiting on 3 more decisions. However, the only acceptance that might make her not attend UF is if she gets into UPenn (which of course is nearly impossible for everyone).

I have mixed feelings about this. Does it water down the degree and the experience when the school accepts so many credits taken in high school? Why not go to CC if you just want a quick cheap path to a grad degree, especially given how many UF classes are online?

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter got accepted to UF this cycle and she is very likely to attend. In addition to the tuition costs being comparable to VA in-state tuition (specifically W&M and UVA - we are still waiting on W&M RD, but she did get into UVA), UF is incredibly generous with accepting AP credits. My daughter will be going in to UF with nearly 45 (the max allowed) credit and can feasibly graduate in 2.5 years. However, UF offers a number of combined undergraduate and masters programs that can be completed in 4 years, so we will look into that program as well (which allows you to save money on 12 credits for a masters degree). I think it will be a huge advantage to be a 22 year old with a Masters when entering the job market. We will visit the school in a couple weeks for spring break and will hopefully make a decision by then. At this point, we are only waiting on 3 more decisions. However, the only acceptance that might make her not attend UF is if she gets into UPenn (which of course is nearly impossible for everyone).

I have mixed feelings about this. Does it water down the degree and the experience when the school accepts so many credits taken in high school? Why not go to CC if you just want a quick cheap path to a grad degree, especially given how many UF classes are online?

I don't think it would be watered down - you just get all of your gen ed classes out of the way and make room for the classes related to your major.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:74,800 total freshman applications

Below are the estimates, based on data released by UF in previous Board of Trustees meetings …

41,500 FL applicants
32,300 OOS applicants

16,000 accepted applicants (all programs)

6,600 slots available (all programs)

13,000 FL accepted applicants x yield rate of 45% = 5,850 enrollments

3,000 OOS accepted applicants x yield rate of 25% = 750 enrollments (11.4% of overall)

16,000 / 74,800 = 21.4 overall accept rate

13,000 / 41,500 = 31.3% FL accept rate

3,000 / 32,300 = 9.3% OOS accept rate

These stats are so interesting to me. Unless they really don't care / don't want the OOS kids to enroll, you would think FL would figure out a better way to figure out OOS acceptances. I mean, they only accept 9.3%, but then 75% of those kids don't attend.

Even the PP who's kid has been accepted...it seems like it is unlikely they will actually attend based on the really high stats and other possible options.

It’s challenging to estimate it any other way - especially this admissions cycle’s numbers. There are finite available seats, +/- some year-over-year expansion capacity. There are state caps on OOS enrollment that have a bit of flex because many of the other impacted schools in FL are heavily skewed to in-state enrollment, but historically we know the OOS enrollment rate at UF is in the neighborhood of around 14%.

Working from that information, the calculus is fairly straightforward and the resulting acceptance rates have plummeted as the applications have soared. As the Board of Trustees presentation made clear, they are very invested in figuring out an effective yield strategy to drag the acceptance rates even lower, which is crazy at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:74,800 total freshman applications

Below are the estimates, based on data released by UF in previous Board of Trustees meetings …

41,500 FL applicants
32,300 OOS applicants

16,000 accepted applicants (all programs)

6,600 slots available (all programs)

13,000 FL accepted applicants x yield rate of 45% = 5,850 enrollments

3,000 OOS accepted applicants x yield rate of 25% = 750 enrollments (11.4% of overall)

16,000 / 74,800 = 21.4 overall accept rate

13,000 / 41,500 = 31.3% FL accept rate

3,000 / 32,300 = 9.3% OOS accept rate

These stats are so interesting to me. Unless they really don't care / don't want the OOS kids to enroll, you would think FL would figure out a better way to figure out OOS acceptances. I mean, they only accept 9.3%, but then 75% of those kids don't attend.

Even the PP who's kid has been accepted...it seems like it is unlikely they will actually attend based on the really high stats and other possible options.

It’s challenging to estimate it any other way - especially this admissions cycle’s numbers. There are finite available seats, +/- some year-over-year expansion capacity. There are state caps on OOS enrollment that have a bit of flex because many of the other impacted schools in FL are heavily skewed to in-state enrollment, but historically we know the OOS enrollment rate at UF is in the neighborhood of around 14%.

Working from that information, the calculus is fairly straightforward and the resulting acceptance rates have plummeted as the applications have soared. As the Board of Trustees presentation made clear, they are very invested in figuring out an effective yield strategy to drag the acceptance rates even lower, which is crazy at this point.

I wonder what more they will do. My daughter (at a FCPS high school) said that UF is becoming more popular with her peer group. She initially thought that she was the only one in her class that applied - but later learned about 15 other kids who did as well. Of course, she is just one person.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter got accepted to UF this cycle and she is very likely to attend. In addition to the tuition costs being comparable to VA in-state tuition (specifically W&M and UVA - we are still waiting on W&M RD, but she did get into UVA), UF is incredibly generous with accepting AP credits. My daughter will be going in to UF with nearly 45 (the max allowed) credit and can feasibly graduate in 2.5 years. However, UF offers a number of combined undergraduate and masters programs that can be completed in 4 years, so we will look into that program as well (which allows you to save money on 12 credits for a masters degree). I think it will be a huge advantage to be a 22 year old with a Masters when entering the job market. We will visit the school in a couple weeks for spring break and will hopefully make a decision by then. At this point, we are only waiting on 3 more decisions. However, the only acceptance that might make her not attend UF is if she gets into UPenn (which of course is nearly impossible for everyone).

I have mixed feelings about this. Does it water down the degree and the experience when the school accepts so many credits taken in high school? Why not go to CC if you just want a quick cheap path to a grad degree, especially given how many UF classes are online?

I don't think it would be watered down - you just get all of your gen ed classes out of the way and make room for the classes related to your major.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Parent of a DC25. For those with oos kids who applied to UF, what were some of the reasons they loved the school? It is obviously popular, and the rankings are high, but what else? Is the campus and town really great? Sports teams? Vibe of the student body? Scholarships?

We wouldn't be able to visit anytime soon, so your insight is appreciated!

Town is nothing special, it is landlocked. Very big around 40,000. Selling point is relatively low cost. Free for on state.

I attended and go back fairly regularly. The campus and town are nice. I’d say it’s a very typical college town. The area right around campus has a lot of student housing and restaurants/bars. The downtown area is a very typical small town downtown (courthouse, square, restaurants). The areas a little farther from campus feel very suburban, and then you are in a rural area. Sports are big (national championship teams), but if it’s not your thing, there are plenty of other things to do. It has a big music scene. The beach is about an hour away. There are a lot of natural springs in the area, so lots of opportunities to go river tubing or kayaking.

I watched a youtube campus tour, and it looks like there are a lot of busy roads with lots of traffic nearby. I also thought there were some very photogenic areas of campus, but overall, it looked a little tired and in need of a power wash. The downtown looks cute for visiting parents, but maybe a little dull for college kids. I understand the draw of the sports teams, but I really don't get the infatuation with this school.

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Anonymous wrote:As estimated several times over the past two weeks, OOS acceptance rate comfortably below 10% …

As calculated by you, it was 20 last cycle and likely the same this year. Yield is always much lower for oos so they take more kids per slot than for instate at all state flagship.s

The accept 15K for 6,500 slots. State law impacts OOS enrollment. There’s absolutely no shitty math you can muster to get the OOS acceptance rate above 10%. Sorry that upsets you.

Cites please.

https://ir.aa.ufl.edu/reports/cds-reports/

I’ll add that my OOS kid (36 ACT one-and-done with a 36 in each section, 4.57 GPA at Top 50 public high high school in the U.S., 14 AP classes [with 10 AP tests already in the bag, all with scores of 5], 4-year varsity team sport captain [including state championship during sophomore year], with extensive volunteer and research experience in his area of academic interest, and compelling essays) was accepted by UF, but failed to gain acceptance into the honors college and without a single dime of merit.

It was competitive - very competitive.

That's insane. For Florida. Hope he's going elsewhere!!

We deployed the “cast a very wide net” strategy with him because his area of academic interest isn’t narrowly focused at just a limited number of schools only; and in fact, a majority of the Top 25 schools happen to appear on the list of Top 25 schools in that particular academic area.

UF also happens to be near the very top for doctoral programs in that particular area, so it made the list.

All of that said, there are also some concerns re: political interference at UF, so we’ll have to see how it shakes out.

I know 3 NMF students who were not accepted. I know UF says that they are holistic in their admissions process, but I wish I knew exactly what they meant by that.