TJ Calc BC and AP Physics

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Anonymous wrote:What kind of colleges is your child thinking of applying to, OP? Perhaps there are former TJ parents who have had kids attend those colleges and can share anecdotal experience

My kid was class of 2018. I think the college application scene has changed a lot since then. VT was very much a safety for her then.

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Anonymous wrote:2018 guide to advanced science at TJ, for top students.
https://nikhilsardana.github.io/guide.pdf

Thank you! Very helpful! Exactly the sort of info i was trying to find!
- OP

This book is extremely outdated. It references teachers and processes that don't exist at TJ anymore, so do your own research as well.

Also some of these kids were superstars and ranked amongst the best in the US in their subject areas. Their advice may not apply to the average TJ student.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids are doing this everywhere at their base school. Heaven help you if your TJ Kid can't handle it.

Thanks for the advice. That’s encouraging. At TJ though kids are strongly counseled not to do this normally so I’m not sure if there are differences in how the classes are taught there that make it harder to do concurrently.

TJ BC is brutal. Far far beyond the AP exam and base school class. Same for Physics C. Only recommended for the truly gifted to take simultaneously junior year. Plenty of TJ kids with Cs in these classes who breezed through pre calc. Not just this year but every year. Proceed with caution.

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Anonymous wrote:If my kid wants to take AP Chemistry , AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ at 11th, and finished honor Chemistry at 10th, is it possible?

They should not do this. These are the three most difficult classes for juniors at TJ.

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Honestly, the gpa hit of getting a C on either of these classes is just not worth the risk. Take BC and then take Physics C senior year. Even BC alone is rough going. Keep in mind that APUSH and even regular physics are not easy classes either at TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:If my kid wants to take AP Chemistry , AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ at 11th, and finished honor Chemistry at 10th, is it possible?

They should not do this. These are the three most difficult classes for juniors at TJ.

+1. You are asking for trouble. Not worth it. Does your child want to go to MIT? Then only if you think they can handle it with ease.

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Anonymous wrote:If my kid wants to take AP Chemistry , AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ at 11th, and finished honor Chemistry at 10th, is it possible?

They should not do this. These are the three most difficult classes for juniors at TJ.

+1. You are asking for trouble. Not worth it. Does your child want to go to MIT? Then only if you think they can handle it with ease.

Thanks for above advices, which are really helpful for my kid to choose courses in 11th.

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I know TJ students who DID go to MIT last year and at least two of them waited to take Physics C senior year!

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Anonymous wrote:Kids are doing this everywhere at their base school. Heaven help you if your TJ Kid can't handle it.

Thanks for the advice. That’s encouraging. At TJ though kids are strongly counseled not to do this normally so I’m not sure if there are differences in how the classes are taught there that make it harder to do concurrently.

TJ BC is brutal. Far far beyond the AP exam and base school class. Same for Physics C. Only recommended for the truly gifted to take simultaneously junior year. Plenty of TJ kids with Cs in these classes who breezed through pre calc. Not just this year but every year. Proceed with caution.

Why do they torture kids like this?
Blair has a Magnet Analysis class that goes beyond Calc BC, so they give it a different name.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids are doing this everywhere at their base school. Heaven help you if your TJ Kid can't handle it.

Thanks for the advice. That’s encouraging. At TJ though kids are strongly counseled not to do this normally so I’m not sure if there are differences in how the classes are taught there that make it harder to do concurrently.

TJ BC is brutal. Far far beyond the AP exam and base school class. Same for Physics C. Only recommended for the truly gifted to take simultaneously junior year. Plenty of TJ kids with Cs in these classes who breezed through pre calc. Not just this year but every year. Proceed with caution.

What are the differences? Have you had kids in both TJ and base version?

Why does TJ make Precalc easier and Calc harder, instead of balancing them?

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Anonymous wrote:Looking for advice from anyone whose kid has take AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ. I know this is not recommended but DC is considering it for various reasons. DC is strong in math but only on the “normal” Math4/5 in 10th grade track.

Anyone do this and use a tutoring company they would recommend to help get pre exposure to some of the math needed for the physics side of it?

other than college application, what are the reasons for doing Physics C in 11th instead of 12th?

Yes it’s for application purposes. The counselor said AP Physics is normally expected by most of the schools DC may want for CS since it would house within Emgineering. DC doesn’t have an extra space for it senior heat with the other classes they are planning to take.

- OP

Did the counrselor specify it they expected it junior year? Colleges can see senior year classes

No, DC has other classes they plan to take Sr. Year and cramming AP Physics into Sr. Year would be a tough decision, which is why they're weighing how doable it is to do concurrently with Calc BC

if doing Physics C in junior, what rigorous 4th year course in its place would help for cs engineering major?

This isn't what TJ is for. You don't sound like a good fit for TJ. Maybe your child is, so you should stay out of the way and let your child pursue heir intellectual passion, until you learn to understand TJ.

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Anonymous wrote:Looking for advice from anyone whose kid has take AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ. I know this is not recommended but DC is considering it for various reasons. DC is strong in math but only on the “normal” Math4/5 in 10th grade track.

Anyone do this and use a tutoring company they would recommend to help get pre exposure to some of the math needed for the physics side of it?

other than college application, what are the reasons for doing Physics C in 11th instead of 12th?

Yes it’s for application purposes. The counselor said AP Physics is normally expected by most of the schools DC may want for CS since it would house within Emgineering. DC doesn’t have an extra space for it senior heat with the other classes they are planning to take.

- OP

Did the counrselor specify it they expected it junior year? Colleges can see senior year classes

No, DC has other classes they plan to take Sr. Year and cramming AP Physics into Sr. Year would be a tough decision, which is why they're weighing how doable it is to do concurrently with Calc BC

if doing Physics C in junior, what rigorous 4th year course in its place would help for cs engineering major?

This isn't what TJ is for. You don't sound like a good fit for TJ. Maybe your child is, so you should stay out of the way and let your child pursue heir intellectual passion, until you learn to understand TJ.

I dont recall asking you for a fit analysis and sure as heck dont want you commenting on my childs needs

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Anonymous wrote:Kids are doing this everywhere at their base school. Heaven help you if your TJ Kid can't handle it.

Thanks for the advice. That’s encouraging. At TJ though kids are strongly counseled not to do this normally so I’m not sure if there are differences in how the classes are taught there that make it harder to do concurrently.

TJ BC is brutal. Far far beyond the AP exam and base school class. Same for Physics C. Only recommended for the truly gifted to take simultaneously junior year. Plenty of TJ kids with Cs in these classes who breezed through pre calc. Not just this year but every year. Proceed with caution.

Why do they torture kids like this?
Blair has a Magnet Analysis class that goes beyond Calc BC, so they give it a different name.

TJ calculus or any TJ math appears overwhelming because it's compared to base school math, where homework is kept very light and lot of time is spent on first few units, whereas last units, usually the advanced topics, are rushed through in final weeks or skipped altogether. At TJ, they keep consistent pace no matter what covering all units, and never hold back on homework or test rigor, even if half of class were to get a C.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids are doing this everywhere at their base school. Heaven help you if your TJ Kid can't handle it.

Thanks for the advice. That’s encouraging. At TJ though kids are strongly counseled not to do this normally so I’m not sure if there are differences in how the classes are taught there that make it harder to do concurrently.

TJ BC is brutal. Far far beyond the AP exam and base school class. Same for Physics C. Only recommended for the truly gifted to take simultaneously junior year. Plenty of TJ kids with Cs in these classes who breezed through pre calc. Not just this year but every year. Proceed with caution.

Why do they torture kids like this?
Blair has a Magnet Analysis class that goes beyond Calc BC, so they give it a different name.

TJ calculus or any TJ math appears overwhelming because it's compared to base school math, where homework is kept very light and lot of time is spent on first few units, whereas last units, usually the advanced topics, are rushed through in final weeks or skipped altogether. At TJ, they keep consistent pace no matter what covering all units, and never hold back on homework or test rigor, even if half of class were to get a C.

But some teachers do curve routinely.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids are doing this everywhere at their base school. Heaven help you if your TJ Kid can't handle it.

Thanks for the advice. That’s encouraging. At TJ though kids are strongly counseled not to do this normally so I’m not sure if there are differences in how the classes are taught there that make it harder to do concurrently.

TJ BC is brutal. Far far beyond the AP exam and base school class. Same for Physics C. Only recommended for the truly gifted to take simultaneously junior year. Plenty of TJ kids with Cs in these classes who breezed through pre calc. Not just this year but every year. Proceed with caution.

Why do they torture kids like this?
Blair has a Magnet Analysis class that goes beyond Calc BC, so they give it a different name.

TJ calculus or any TJ math appears overwhelming because it's compared to base school math, where homework is kept very light and lot of time is spent on first few units, whereas last units, usually the advanced topics, are rushed through in final weeks or skipped altogether. At TJ, they keep consistent pace no matter what covering all units, and never hold back on homework or test rigor, even if half of class were to get a C.

But some teachers do curve routinely. [/quote

Not in Calc. They don’t curve even if average is a D. Which happens.