TJ Calc BC and AP Physics

[Anonymous]

Looking for advice from anyone whose kid has take AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ. I know this is not recommended but DC is considering it for various reasons. DC is strong in math but only on the “normal” Math4/5 in 10th grade track.

Anyone do this and use a tutoring company they would recommend to help get pre exposure to some of the math needed for the physics side of it?

[Anonymous]

Kids are doing this everywhere at their base school. Heaven help you if your TJ Kid can't handle it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids are doing this everywhere at their base school. Heaven help you if your TJ Kid can't handle it.

Thanks for the advice. That’s encouraging. At TJ though kids are strongly counseled not to do this normally so I’m not sure if there are differences in how the classes are taught there that make it harder to do concurrently.

[Anonymous]

^ - OP

[Anonymous]

It is AP Physics or TJ's Physics?

Has the kid taken AP Calculus AB?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids are doing this everywhere at their base school. Heaven help you if your TJ Kid can't handle it.

There is a big difference between a base school AP course and that of TJ.

Course rigor comparison:
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Base school Honors course ==> no course at TJ
Base school AP course ==> TJ Honors course
(drink from a firehose) ===> TJ AP course
(drink from two firehoses) ==> TJ post AP course

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looking for advice from anyone whose kid has take AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ. I know this is not recommended but DC is considering it for various reasons. DC is strong in math but only on the “normal” Math4/5 in 10th grade track.

Anyone do this and use a tutoring company they would recommend to help get pre exposure to some of the math needed for the physics side of it?

This not easy to do. Only the very top TJ kids have managed to do this.

At TJ, going from Math4/5 to Calc BC is by itself is a big challenge, because this would mean skipping TJ Calc AB. It is not just Calc BC, it's the added rigor and fast pace that involved with TJ Calc BC that makes it challenging.

Second challenge, that you dont explicitly mention, but I am assuming, this meaning skipping TJ Physics 1 and going straight to TJ AP Physics C. Even though Calc BC is mentioned as a co-req or a pre-req, for vast majority of TJ kids it is not a co-req but a pre-req, especially if TJ Physics 1 is not already completed. TJ Physics 1 is not an easy course by itself, but student entering TJ AP Physics is assumed to have already mastered Physics 1 at TJ rigor.

It not impossible to do, just know that very few have been successful without giving up on grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looking for advice from anyone whose kid has take AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ. I know this is not recommended but DC is considering it for various reasons. DC is strong in math but only on the “normal” Math4/5 in 10th grade track.

Anyone do this and use a tutoring company they would recommend to help get pre exposure to some of the math needed for the physics side of it?

Who said it's not recommended?
That's totally normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are doing this everywhere at their base school. Heaven help you if your TJ Kid can't handle it.

There is a big difference between a base school AP course and that of TJ.

Course rigor comparison:
=====================
Base school Honors course ==> no course at TJ
Base school AP course ==> TJ Honors course
(drink from a firehose) ===> TJ AP course
(drink from two firehoses) ==> TJ post AP course

This is silly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Kids are doing this everywhere at their base school. Heaven help you if your TJ Kid can't handle it.

There is a big difference between a base school AP course and that of TJ.

Course rigor comparison:
=====================
Base school Honors course ==> no course at TJ
Base school AP course ==> TJ Honors course
(drink from a firehose) ===> TJ AP course
(drink from two firehoses) ==> TJ post AP course

This is so true. In base school, it is quite normal to get an A in the AP Course, but not achieve a 4 or 5 on the exam. At TJ, even a B in the course ensures a 5 on the exam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looking for advice from anyone whose kid has take AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ. I know this is not recommended but DC is considering it for various reasons. DC is strong in math but only on the “normal” Math4/5 in 10th grade track.

Anyone do this and use a tutoring company they would recommend to help get pre exposure to some of the math needed for the physics side of it?

other than college application, what are the reasons for doing Physics C in 11th instead of 12th?

[Anonymous]

If my kid wants to take AP Chemistry , AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ at 11th, and finished honor Chemistry at 10th, is it possible?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking for advice from anyone whose kid has take AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ. I know this is not recommended but DC is considering it for various reasons. DC is strong in math but only on the “normal” Math4/5 in 10th grade track.

Anyone do this and use a tutoring company they would recommend to help get pre exposure to some of the math needed for the physics side of it?

Who said it's not recommended?
That's totally normal.

Totally normal at TJ?
I have not gotten that impression.

Not recommend by teachers / counselors there.

- OP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking for advice from anyone whose kid has take AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ. I know this is not recommended but DC is considering it for various reasons. DC is strong in math but only on the “normal” Math4/5 in 10th grade track.

Anyone do this and use a tutoring company they would recommend to help get pre exposure to some of the math needed for the physics side of it?

other than college application, what are the reasons for doing Physics C in 11th instead of 12th?

Yes it’s for application purposes. The counselor said AP Physics is normally expected by most of the schools DC may want for CS since it would house within Emgineering. DC doesn’t have an extra space for it senior heat with the other classes they are planning to take.

- OP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looking for advice from anyone whose kid has take AP Calc BC and AP Physics at the same time at TJ. I know this is not recommended but DC is considering it for various reasons. DC is strong in math but only on the “normal” Math4/5 in 10th grade track.

Anyone do this and use a tutoring company they would recommend to help get pre exposure to some of the math needed for the physics side of it?

This not easy to do. Only the very top TJ kids have managed to do this.

At TJ, going from Math4/5 to Calc BC is by itself is a big challenge, because this would mean skipping TJ Calc AB. It is not just Calc BC, it's the added rigor and fast pace that involved with TJ Calc BC that makes it challenging.

Second challenge, that you dont explicitly mention, but I am assuming, this meaning skipping TJ Physics 1 and going straight to TJ AP Physics C. Even though Calc BC is mentioned as a co-req or a pre-req, for vast majority of TJ kids it is not a co-req but a pre-req, especially if TJ Physics 1 is not already completed. TJ Physics 1 is not an easy course by itself, but student entering TJ AP Physics is assumed to have already mastered Physics 1 at TJ rigor.

It not impossible to do, just know that very few have been successful without giving up on grades.

Thank you. Not what I was hoping to hear but useful. I didn’t realize that the TJ AP physics is more meant to be taken after Physics Honors vs as an alternative to it.

- OP