Teacher didn't change a 59 TO D

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Anonymous wrote:TIL that there is a letter grade E. In my high school it was A, B, C, or F for anything below a 70. In college I learned that some schools let you "pass" with a D, which was surprising to me. Now we have Es?

The E grade has been used in MCPS forever. It's really not a big deal. E is the same as "F for failing". They just use the letter because it's the next letter in the alphabet after D. Like I said, really not a big deal. As for Ds, yes you can "pass" a class with a D, but it doesn't help you transcript-wise so it's your loss if that's what you earn.

That's not why they use it. They use it because they don't want the special snowflakes to think they "failed".
Anonymous
A pp is correct; giving D’s to failing students in Spanish 1 ensures that they will enter Spanish 2 knowing nothing. If your child is in middle school, don’t worry about the grade; you don’t have to include it on the high school transcript. Your child will need to repeat Spanish 1 or try a different language. Some kids switch to American Sign Language in high school to meet their world language requirement for graduation and find it easier.

My dd took Spanish 1A in 6th grade and earned B’s and the occasional C. She was in Spanish 1B in 7th grade during the pandemic virtual learning year. She learned nothing and had tons of missing assignments. She technically passed (D), but I knew she wasn’t prepared for Spanish 2, so I had her retake Spanish 1B as an 8th grader. She got C’s and still didn’t seem to know the material, so we had a come to Jesus meeting and I told her she would retake Spanish 1 her freshman year and she’d better really work at it because it was her FOURTH consecutive year taking it and her last shot. She mostly got B’s and occasional C’s. She’s a sophomore in Spanish 2 this year and she’s a straight C student in that class, but she’s passing and doesn’t have to take a world language after this year.

I understand your desire for a teacher to boost a grade. DD had a 79.46 in a class and asked the teacher if there was anything she (dd) could do to get up to a B and her teacher said no. It was disappointing because dd had worked really hard in that class, but she just came up short. That happens sometimes in life, but instead of being bitter about it, she needs to learn to use that experience as motivation to work even harder.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TIL that there is a letter grade E. In my high school it was A, B, C, or F for anything below a 70. In college I learned that some schools let you "pass" with a D, which was surprising to me. Now we have Es?

The E grade has been used in MCPS forever. It's really not a big deal. E is the same as "F for failing". They just use the letter because it's the next letter in the alphabet after D. Like I said, really not a big deal. As for Ds, yes you can "pass" a class with a D, but it doesn't help you transcript-wise so it's your loss if that's what you earn.


No, they got rid of the F because it is associated with "Fail" and it would absolutely be terrible to suggest to a kid that they failed at anything. Even if they did.


Yes, my understanding is that MCPS got rid of Fs years ago because of the feelings it gave kids....which is ridiculous, but whatever. Least of my concerns about MCPS these days.

When was that? Because I graduated from MCPS in '92 and E was the norm.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TIL that there is a letter grade E. In my high school it was A, B, C, or F for anything below a 70. In college I learned that some schools let you "pass" with a D, which was surprising to me. Now we have Es?

The E grade has been used in MCPS forever. It's really not a big deal. E is the same as "F for failing". They just use the letter because it's the next letter in the alphabet after D. Like I said, really not a big deal. As for Ds, yes you can "pass" a class with a D, but it doesn't help you transcript-wise so it's your loss if that's what you earn.


No, they got rid of the F because it is associated with "Fail" and it would absolutely be terrible to suggest to a kid that they failed at anything. Even if they did.


Yes, my understanding is that MCPS got rid of Fs years ago because of the feelings it gave kids....which is ridiculous, but whatever. Least of my concerns about MCPS these days.

When was that? Because I graduated from MCPS in '92 and E was the norm.

This.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TIL that there is a letter grade E. In my high school it was A, B, C, or F for anything below a 70. In college I learned that some schools let you "pass" with a D, which was surprising to me. Now we have Es?

The E grade has been used in MCPS forever. It's really not a big deal. E is the same as "F for failing". They just use the letter because it's the next letter in the alphabet after D. Like I said, really not a big deal. As for Ds, yes you can "pass" a class with a D, but it doesn't help you transcript-wise so it's your loss if that's what you earn.


No, they got rid of the F because it is associated with "Fail" and it would absolutely be terrible to suggest to a kid that they failed at anything. Even if they did.

BS
Anonymous
After the 1st quarter, did you set up regular check ins with the teacher, ask for an interim, hire a tutor? The end of the semester grade should not be a surprise if everyone was in regular contact, especially if the student has diagnosed special needs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The teacher is not the problem in this picture.


Shhh… DCUM isn’t the place for logical thinking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TIL that there is a letter grade E. In my high school it was A, B, C, or F for anything below a 70. In college I learned that some schools let you "pass" with a D, which was surprising to me. Now we have Es?

The E grade has been used in MCPS forever. It's really not a big deal. E is the same as "F for failing". They just use the letter because it's the next letter in the alphabet after D. Like I said, really not a big deal. As for Ds, yes you can "pass" a class with a D, but it doesn't help you transcript-wise so it's your loss if that's what you earn.

No, they got rid of the F because it is associated with "Fail" and it would absolutely be terrible to suggest to a kid that they failed at anything. Even if they did.

I'm the PP you responded to. MCPS has used Es on report cards since at least the 1980s. If you have dates, sources, or evidence for the Snowflake E Theory, by all means please post them.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TIL that there is a letter grade E. In my high school it was A, B, C, or F for anything below a 70. In college I learned that some schools let you "pass" with a D, which was surprising to me. Now we have Es?

The E grade has been used in MCPS forever. It's really not a big deal. E is the same as "F for failing". They just use the letter because it's the next letter in the alphabet after D. Like I said, really not a big deal. As for Ds, yes you can "pass" a class with a D, but it doesn't help you transcript-wise so it's your loss if that's what you earn.


No, they got rid of the F because it is associated with "Fail" and it would absolutely be terrible to suggest to a kid that they failed at anything. Even if they did.


Yes, my understanding is that MCPS got rid of Fs years ago because of the feelings it gave kids....which is ridiculous, but whatever. Least of my concerns about MCPS these days.

When was that? Because I graduated from MCPS in '92 and E was the norm.


I was a kid in MCPS in the '90s and that it was an E then and that justification of not wanting to use F for failure for fear of demoralizing kids is what we were told for why E was used.

I didn't say it was a new thing, but that has long been the stance on Fs in MCPS.

Unfortunately for them, colleges do not care about your feelings and don't mind handing out Fs on assignments or in classes so it's quite the wake-up call for MCPS kids once they step out of the bubble.
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Anonymous wrote:The teacher is not the problem in this picture.



He ended up with E for the semester for Spanish 1A. I just wish he would've emailed me or give my son extra credit so he could've passed the semester. He did but doing the 1st marking period, but improved a lot doing the second marking period.


MCPS doesn’t allow extra credit. It is explicitly forbidden.

Technically, teachers are not supposed to round up grades as Synergy automatically rounds up 0.5 to a full point. Every year, the staff development teacher warns us not to do it because if you do it for one you have to it for all.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TIL that there is a letter grade E. In my high school it was A, B, C, or F for anything below a 70. In college I learned that some schools let you "pass" with a D, which was surprising to me. Now we have Es?

The E grade has been used in MCPS forever. It's really not a big deal. E is the same as "F for failing". They just use the letter because it's the next letter in the alphabet after D. Like I said, really not a big deal. As for Ds, yes you can "pass" a class with a D, but it doesn't help you transcript-wise so it's your loss if that's what you earn.


No, they got rid of the F because it is associated with "Fail" and it would absolutely be terrible to suggest to a kid that they failed at anything. Even if they did.


Yes, my understanding is that MCPS got rid of Fs years ago because of the feelings it gave kids....which is ridiculous, but whatever. Least of my concerns about MCPS these days.

When was that? Because I graduated from MCPS in '92 and E was the norm.


I was a kid in MCPS in the '90s and that it was an E then and that justification of not wanting to use F for failure for fear of demoralizing kids is what we were told for why E was used.

I didn't say it was a new thing, but that has long been the stance on Fs in MCPS.

Unfortunately for them, colleges do not care about your feelings and don't mind handing out Fs on assignments or in classes so it's quite the wake-up call for MCPS kids once they step out of the bubble.


Who told you this? If it wasn’t a Central Office spokesperson, they may have been expressing a person opinion or just talking out of their rear end.

DS transferred into MCPS from a private school that used different letters and percentage cut offs. E was for exceptional and was basically a 95% or above. A was for Advanced which was 90-95% He had straight Es all through MS. When he entered Blair, it took a moment for him to understand classmates talking about Es.
Anonymous
OP-- An E might be a blessing. Have the kid retake the course, and you will end up replacing the E with the new grade.
Anonymous
Yes. At that point, an E and a D are equally bad and the blame lies on the kid.
Anonymous
65 is passing. A 59 is not. 59 is not a D. You are entitled
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:TIL that there is a letter grade E. In my high school it was A, B, C, or F for anything below a 70. In college I learned that some schools let you "pass" with a D, which was surprising to me. Now we have Es?

The E grade has been used in MCPS forever. It's really not a big deal. E is the same as "F for failing". They just use the letter because it's the next letter in the alphabet after D. Like I said, really not a big deal. As for Ds, yes you can "pass" a class with a D, but it doesn't help you transcript-wise so it's your loss if that's what you earn.


No, they got rid of the F because it is associated with "Fail" and it would absolutely be terrible to suggest to a kid that they failed at anything. Even if they did.


Yes, my understanding is that MCPS got rid of Fs years ago because of the feelings it gave kids....which is ridiculous, but whatever. Least of my concerns about MCPS these days.

When was that? Because I graduated from MCPS in '92 and E was the norm.


I graduated in 96 and remember that the change was made from F to E but I don’t remember when it was made.
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