Fox 5 Is MCPS Still a Premier School District

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Anonymous wrote:Stupid article. No metrics or comparisons. Highlights are national issues not local politics -- culture war and a once in a century pandemic.

It's from FOX. What do you expect? Move on folks, don't give it much thought.

But voters give it thought.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent your kid. Vote sensibly. The ELLs will get a better education in MCPS and benefit our society. Remember they along with others bring the "diversity" that everyone claims they want for their kid to be exposed to, but have their kid turn their heads when a "diverse" person approaches them or sees them. Ya those people. The upper and upper middles will do fine regardless.

Claiming everyone wants diversity as if people are buying homes here to expose their family to diversity is such a crock. People buy for the academic excellence first and foremost. Unfortunately, that's gone in the toilet. And no- it's not true that if you're wealthy you'll be fine. Your child may test higher on standardized tests but spending 12 years in a school system that doesn't correct grammar leads to poor outcomes for every child. I suspect those who make the "if you're rich you'll be fine" claims aren't actually reading their students work.

Everyone may not care about diversity but many people do, especially minorities. Yes they want academic excellence but they also want to be sure there kids will be in school where they won’t be a token and where they will see themselves reflected in the curriculum and staff.

Black and brown parents do care about diversity, but they care MORE about academic excellence and safety and security.

That's why you'll often see black and brown parents MOVE their kids to more well-to-do, majority-white schools within MCPS, even though they're less diverse.

And often they fine, that while the academics are better their kids are often LESS safe and secure in said majority-white schools. Hence all the dust ups about racism, bullying and bias in schools generally but especially the majority schools. Because even after being in the better academic environment they still have to fight to have their child recognized as capable, still have to fight for equal opportunities, and have to work overtime at home and outside of school to be sure their kid is comfortable with their being. Which is why those black and brown parents will take a school that’s 8/10 or 7/10 and diverse instead of 9/10 but a majority white school.

The people in 3/10 schools often can’t afford to move to majority white school and really are fighting to have their community given what’s needed so they can raise the bar. And frankly what’s likely needed most needs to happen outside of the school day. After school programs that do tutoring and homework. Community programs that teach families English. Erin study programs for Junior/Senior HS students. Community policing.

Cite?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stupid article. No metrics or comparisons. Highlights are national issues not local politics -- culture war and a once in a century pandemic.

It's from FOX. What do you expect? Move on folks, don't give it much thought.

But voters give it thought.

You take FOX seriously? Oh of course!

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Anonymous wrote:Stupid article. No metrics or comparisons. Highlights are national issues not local politics -- culture war and a once in a century pandemic.

It's from FOX. What do you expect? Move on folks, don't give it much thought.

But voters give it thought.

You take FOX seriously? Oh of course!

They have a far-right agenda that involves depicting society in free-fall decline that only a return to traditional values can solve.

[Anonymous]

Good at being violent and corrupt

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parent your kid. Vote sensibly. The ELLs will get a better education in MCPS and benefit our society. Remember they along with others bring the "diversity" that everyone claims they want for their kid to be exposed to, but have their kid turn their heads when a "diverse" person approaches them or sees them. Ya those people. The upper and upper middles will do fine regardless.

Claiming everyone wants diversity as if people are buying homes here to expose their family to diversity is such a crock. People buy for the academic excellence first and foremost. Unfortunately, that's gone in the toilet. And no- it's not true that if you're wealthy you'll be fine. Your child may test higher on standardized tests but spending 12 years in a school system that doesn't correct grammar leads to poor outcomes for every child. I suspect those who make the "if you're rich you'll be fine" claims aren't actually reading their students work.

By "fine" they mean mediocre, which is the intent of the "equity" policies. It looks to me like MCPS has been quite successful in its stated goal of "equity" as the performance of students in the middle to mid-upper has flattened or declined, therefore closing the gaps. (And furthermore if MCPS is allowed to exclude from performance data students who it allows to be chronically absent, then the performance of students at the bottom are artificially inflated). I agree that MCPS is in decline, but that is only if one assumes that the purpose of MCPS is to provide an excellent education and give every student the opportunity to realize his or her full academic potential. The problem is that this is not actually the purpose of MCPS anymore, and hasn't been for quite some time. Based on its own stated goals, MCPS has been (and continues to be) quite successful.

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Anonymous wrote:Stupid article. No metrics or comparisons. Highlights are national issues not local politics -- culture war and a once in a century pandemic.

It's from FOX. What do you expect? Move on folks, don't give it much thought.

But voters give it thought.

You take FOX seriously? Oh of course!

They have a far-right agenda that involves depicting society in free-fall decline that only a return to traditional values can solve.

This is what Fox news is all about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Stupid article. No metrics or comparisons. Highlights are national issues not local politics -- culture war and a once in a century pandemic.

It's from FOX. What do you expect? Move on folks, don't give it much thought.

But voters give it thought.

You take FOX seriously? Oh of course!

They have a far-right agenda that involves depicting society in free-fall decline that only a return to traditional values can solve.

This is the local station. What about this report did they fabricate?

Nothing.

Is your point that the left prefers to cover up sex assaults in schools?

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Anonymous wrote:Parent your kid. Vote sensibly. The ELLs will get a better education in MCPS and benefit our society. Remember they along with others bring the "diversity" that everyone claims they want for their kid to be exposed to, but have their kid turn their heads when a "diverse" person approaches them or sees them. Ya those people. The upper and upper middles will do fine regardless.

Claiming everyone wants diversity as if people are buying homes here to expose their family to diversity is such a crock. People buy for the academic excellence first and foremost. Unfortunately, that's gone in the toilet. And no- it's not true that if you're wealthy you'll be fine. Your child may test higher on standardized tests but spending 12 years in a school system that doesn't correct grammar leads to poor outcomes for every child. I suspect those who make the "if you're rich you'll be fine" claims aren't actually reading their students work.

Everyone may not care about diversity but many people do, especially minorities. Yes they want academic excellence but they also want to be sure there kids will be in school where they won’t be a token and where they will see themselves reflected in the curriculum and staff.

Black and brown parents do care about diversity, but they care MORE about academic excellence and safety and security.

That's why you'll often see black and brown parents MOVE their kids to more well-to-do, majority-white schools within MCPS, even though they're less diverse.

And often they fine, that while the academics are better their kids are often LESS safe and secure in said majority-white schools. Hence all the dust ups about racism, bullying and bias in schools generally but especially the majority schools. Because even after being in the better academic environment they still have to fight to have their child recognized as capable, still have to fight for equal opportunities, and have to work overtime at home and outside of school to be sure their kid is comfortable with their being. Which is why those black and brown parents will take a school that’s 8/10 or 7/10 and diverse instead of 9/10 but a majority white school.

The people in 3/10 schools often can’t afford to move to majority white school and really are fighting to have their community given what’s needed so they can raise the bar. And frankly what’s likely needed most needs to happen outside of the school day. After school programs that do tutoring and homework. Community programs that teach families English. Erin study programs for Junior/Senior HS students. Community policing.

This is not as universally true for black and brown parents as you're stating. Yes, I agree with you, there are SOME parents who will make that calculated tradeoff in academic performance/safety and diversity to the 7 or 8/10 as you put it. But there are ALSO black and brown parents who actively seek the 9/10 majority-white schools no matter what. Some of this might be rooted in white-supermacist programming that anything white is better, but that is the reality: Some black and brown parents want their kids in a W school no matter what just like some of the most fervent W school parents here on DCUM.

Black and brown parents aren't a monolith. Diversity is not the highest priority for all of them when making decisions about their schools. Is it a priority for some? Sure. To what degree? Your mileage may vary.

What's really jarring for most black and brown parents is thaty they chose to live in MCPS to not have to worry about academic quality and safety and security at all. Now, we're being woken up to the reality that our schools have similar concerns with regard to safety and academics as we do to our neighboring school districts that we have historically seen as our inferiors: PG County Public Schools and DC Public Schools.

We may have concerns and problems here, but given the choice between PG, DC, and MoCo I bet most people will still pick MoCo.

Sure. But that doesn't change the fact that most of us who moved to MoCo did so because we thought we'd never have to deal with the kinds of problems that we historically associated with PGCPS and DCPS.

Obviously this was a bit of hubris on our parts, but we were also led to believe as much by county and MCPS leadership.

Many of us have lived in MoCo all along.

Also, Fox5 asking "is MCPS still a premier school district" is very high on my to-not-worry-about list.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parent your kid. Vote sensibly. The ELLs will get a better education in MCPS and benefit our society. Remember they along with others bring the "diversity" that everyone claims they want for their kid to be exposed to, but have their kid turn their heads when a "diverse" person approaches them or sees them. Ya those people. The upper and upper middles will do fine regardless.

Claiming everyone wants diversity as if people are buying homes here to expose their family to diversity is such a crock. People buy for the academic excellence first and foremost. Unfortunately, that's gone in the toilet. And no- it's not true that if you're wealthy you'll be fine. Your child may test higher on standardized tests but spending 12 years in a school system that doesn't correct grammar leads to poor outcomes for every child. I suspect those who make the "if you're rich you'll be fine" claims aren't actually reading their students work.

By "fine" they mean mediocre, which is the intent of the "equity" policies. It looks to me like MCPS has been quite successful in its stated goal of "equity" as the performance of students in the middle to mid-upper has flattened or declined, therefore closing the gaps. (And furthermore if MCPS is allowed to exclude from performance data students who it allows to be chronically absent, then the performance of students at the bottom are artificially inflated). I agree that MCPS is in decline, but that is only if one assumes that the purpose of MCPS is to provide an excellent education and give every student the opportunity to realize his or her full academic potential. The problem is that this is not actually the purpose of MCPS anymore, and hasn't been for quite some time. Based on its own stated goals, MCPS has been (and continues to be) quite successful.

If a student is absent for a significant amount of time, clearly their performance and any teacher’s ability to teach them the same things is going to be impacted. Remove chronically absent students from the data is not about inflating numbers but getting to specific and reasonable data.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent your kid. Vote sensibly. The ELLs will get a better education in MCPS and benefit our society. Remember they along with others bring the "diversity" that everyone claims they want for their kid to be exposed to, but have their kid turn their heads when a "diverse" person approaches them or sees them. Ya those people. The upper and upper middles will do fine regardless.

Claiming everyone wants diversity as if people are buying homes here to expose their family to diversity is such a crock. People buy for the academic excellence first and foremost. Unfortunately, that's gone in the toilet. And no- it's not true that if you're wealthy you'll be fine. Your child may test higher on standardized tests but spending 12 years in a school system that doesn't correct grammar leads to poor outcomes for every child. I suspect those who make the "if you're rich you'll be fine" claims aren't actually reading their students work.

Everyone may not care about diversity but many people do, especially minorities. Yes they want academic excellence but they also want to be sure there kids will be in school where they won’t be a token and where they will see themselves reflected in the curriculum and staff.

Black and brown parents do care about diversity, but they care MORE about academic excellence and safety and security.

That's why you'll often see black and brown parents MOVE their kids to more well-to-do, majority-white schools within MCPS, even though they're less diverse.

And often they fine, that while the academics are better their kids are often LESS safe and secure in said majority-white schools. Hence all the dust ups about racism, bullying and bias in schools generally but especially the majority schools. Because even after being in the better academic environment they still have to fight to have their child recognized as capable, still have to fight for equal opportunities, and have to work overtime at home and outside of school to be sure their kid is comfortable with their being. Which is why those black and brown parents will take a school that’s 8/10 or 7/10 and diverse instead of 9/10 but a majority white school.

The people in 3/10 schools often can’t afford to move to majority white school and really are fighting to have their community given what’s needed so they can raise the bar. And frankly what’s likely needed most needs to happen outside of the school day. After school programs that do tutoring and homework. Community programs that teach families English. Erin study programs for Junior/Senior HS students. Community policing.

This is not as universally true for black and brown parents as you're stating. Yes, I agree with you, there are SOME parents who will make that calculated tradeoff in academic performance/safety and diversity to the 7 or 8/10 as you put it. But there are ALSO black and brown parents who actively seek the 9/10 majority-white schools no matter what. Some of this might be rooted in white-supermacist programming that anything white is better, but that is the reality: Some black and brown parents want their kids in a W school no matter what just like some of the most fervent W school parents here on DCUM.

Black and brown parents aren't a monolith. Diversity is not the highest priority for all of them when making decisions about their schools. Is it a priority for some? Sure. To what degree? Your mileage may vary.

What's really jarring for most black and brown parents is thaty they chose to live in MCPS to not have to worry about academic quality and safety and security at all. Now, we're being woken up to the reality that our schools have similar concerns with regard to safety and academics as we do to our neighboring school districts that we have historically seen as our inferiors: PG County Public Schools and DC Public Schools.

We may have concerns and problems here, but given the choice between PG, DC, and MoCo I bet most people will still pick MoCo.

Sure. But that doesn't change the fact that most of us who moved to MoCo did so because we thought we'd never have to deal with the kinds of problems that we historically associated with PGCPS and DCPS.

Obviously this was a bit of hubris on our parts, but we were also led to believe as much by county and MCPS leadership.

Many of us have lived in MoCo all along.

Also, Fox5 asking "is MCPS still a premier school district" is very high on my to-not-worry-about list.

Good for you. Other people are worried about, hence the thread and conversation. Move along if you don't care.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent your kid. Vote sensibly. The ELLs will get a better education in MCPS and benefit our society. Remember they along with others bring the "diversity" that everyone claims they want for their kid to be exposed to, but have their kid turn their heads when a "diverse" person approaches them or sees them. Ya those people. The upper and upper middles will do fine regardless.

Claiming everyone wants diversity as if people are buying homes here to expose their family to diversity is such a crock. People buy for the academic excellence first and foremost. Unfortunately, that's gone in the toilet. And no- it's not true that if you're wealthy you'll be fine. Your child may test higher on standardized tests but spending 12 years in a school system that doesn't correct grammar leads to poor outcomes for every child. I suspect those who make the "if you're rich you'll be fine" claims aren't actually reading their students work.

Everyone may not care about diversity but many people do, especially minorities. Yes they want academic excellence but they also want to be sure there kids will be in school where they won’t be a token and where they will see themselves reflected in the curriculum and staff.

Black and brown parents do care about diversity, but they care MORE about academic excellence and safety and security.

That's why you'll often see black and brown parents MOVE their kids to more well-to-do, majority-white schools within MCPS, even though they're less diverse.

And often they fine, that while the academics are better their kids are often LESS safe and secure in said majority-white schools. Hence all the dust ups about racism, bullying and bias in schools generally but especially the majority schools. Because even after being in the better academic environment they still have to fight to have their child recognized as capable, still have to fight for equal opportunities, and have to work overtime at home and outside of school to be sure their kid is comfortable with their being. Which is why those black and brown parents will take a school that’s 8/10 or 7/10 and diverse instead of 9/10 but a majority white school.

The people in 3/10 schools often can’t afford to move to majority white school and really are fighting to have their community given what’s needed so they can raise the bar. And frankly what’s likely needed most needs to happen outside of the school day. After school programs that do tutoring and homework. Community programs that teach families English. Erin study programs for Junior/Senior HS students. Community policing.

This is not as universally true for black and brown parents as you're stating. Yes, I agree with you, there are SOME parents who will make that calculated tradeoff in academic performance/safety and diversity to the 7 or 8/10 as you put it. But there are ALSO black and brown parents who actively seek the 9/10 majority-white schools no matter what. Some of this might be rooted in white-supermacist programming that anything white is better, but that is the reality: Some black and brown parents want their kids in a W school no matter what just like some of the most fervent W school parents here on DCUM.

Black and brown parents aren't a monolith. Diversity is not the highest priority for all of them when making decisions about their schools. Is it a priority for some? Sure. To what degree? Your mileage may vary.

What's really jarring for most black and brown parents is thaty they chose to live in MCPS to not have to worry about academic quality and safety and security at all. Now, we're being woken up to the reality that our schools have similar concerns with regard to safety and academics as we do to our neighboring school districts that we have historically seen as our inferiors: PG County Public Schools and DC Public Schools.

We may have concerns and problems here, but given the choice between PG, DC, and MoCo I bet most people will still pick MoCo.

Sure. But that doesn't change the fact that most of us who moved to MoCo did so because we thought we'd never have to deal with the kinds of problems that we historically associated with PGCPS and DCPS.

Obviously this was a bit of hubris on our parts, but we were also led to believe as much by county and MCPS leadership.

Many of us have lived in MoCo all along.

Also, Fox5 asking "is MCPS still a premier school district" is very high on my to-not-worry-about list.

Good for you. Other people are worried about, hence the thread and conversation. Move along if you don't care.

I wouldn't say worried as much as a case of the tail wagging the dog.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent your kid. Vote sensibly. The ELLs will get a better education in MCPS and benefit our society. Remember they along with others bring the "diversity" that everyone claims they want for their kid to be exposed to, but have their kid turn their heads when a "diverse" person approaches them or sees them. Ya those people. The upper and upper middles will do fine regardless.

Claiming everyone wants diversity as if people are buying homes here to expose their family to diversity is such a crock. People buy for the academic excellence first and foremost. Unfortunately, that's gone in the toilet. And no- it's not true that if you're wealthy you'll be fine. Your child may test higher on standardized tests but spending 12 years in a school system that doesn't correct grammar leads to poor outcomes for every child. I suspect those who make the "if you're rich you'll be fine" claims aren't actually reading their students work.

Everyone may not care about diversity but many people do, especially minorities. Yes they want academic excellence but they also want to be sure there kids will be in school where they won’t be a token and where they will see themselves reflected in the curriculum and staff.

Black and brown parents do care about diversity, but they care MORE about academic excellence and safety and security.

That's why you'll often see black and brown parents MOVE their kids to more well-to-do, majority-white schools within MCPS, even though they're less diverse.

And often they fine, that while the academics are better their kids are often LESS safe and secure in said majority-white schools. Hence all the dust ups about racism, bullying and bias in schools generally but especially the majority schools. Because even after being in the better academic environment they still have to fight to have their child recognized as capable, still have to fight for equal opportunities, and have to work overtime at home and outside of school to be sure their kid is comfortable with their being. Which is why those black and brown parents will take a school that’s 8/10 or 7/10 and diverse instead of 9/10 but a majority white school.

The people in 3/10 schools often can’t afford to move to majority white school and really are fighting to have their community given what’s needed so they can raise the bar. And frankly what’s likely needed most needs to happen outside of the school day. After school programs that do tutoring and homework. Community programs that teach families English. Erin study programs for Junior/Senior HS students. Community policing.

This is not as universally true for black and brown parents as you're stating. Yes, I agree with you, there are SOME parents who will make that calculated tradeoff in academic performance/safety and diversity to the 7 or 8/10 as you put it. But there are ALSO black and brown parents who actively seek the 9/10 majority-white schools no matter what. Some of this might be rooted in white-supermacist programming that anything white is better, but that is the reality: Some black and brown parents want their kids in a W school no matter what just like some of the most fervent W school parents here on DCUM.

Black and brown parents aren't a monolith. Diversity is not the highest priority for all of them when making decisions about their schools. Is it a priority for some? Sure. To what degree? Your mileage may vary.

What's really jarring for most black and brown parents is thaty they chose to live in MCPS to not have to worry about academic quality and safety and security at all. Now, we're being woken up to the reality that our schools have similar concerns with regard to safety and academics as we do to our neighboring school districts that we have historically seen as our inferiors: PG County Public Schools and DC Public Schools.

We may have concerns and problems here, but given the choice between PG, DC, and MoCo I bet most people will still pick MoCo.

Sure. But that doesn't change the fact that most of us who moved to MoCo did so because we thought we'd never have to deal with the kinds of problems that we historically associated with PGCPS and DCPS.

Obviously this was a bit of hubris on our parts, but we were also led to believe as much by county and MCPS leadership.

Many of us have lived in MoCo all along.

Also, Fox5 asking "is MCPS still a premier school district" is very high on my to-not-worry-about list.

Good for you. Other people are worried about, hence the thread and conversation. Move along if you don't care.

I wouldn't say worried as much as a case of the tail wagging the dog.

Again, you're free to ignore this thread if you find it to be of no value to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Parent your kid. Vote sensibly. The ELLs will get a better education in MCPS and benefit our society. Remember they along with others bring the "diversity" that everyone claims they want for their kid to be exposed to, but have their kid turn their heads when a "diverse" person approaches them or sees them. Ya those people. The upper and upper middles will do fine regardless.

Claiming everyone wants diversity as if people are buying homes here to expose their family to diversity is such a crock. People buy for the academic excellence first and foremost. Unfortunately, that's gone in the toilet. And no- it's not true that if you're wealthy you'll be fine. Your child may test higher on standardized tests but spending 12 years in a school system that doesn't correct grammar leads to poor outcomes for every child. I suspect those who make the "if you're rich you'll be fine" claims aren't actually reading their students work.

Everyone may not care about diversity but many people do, especially minorities. Yes they want academic excellence but they also want to be sure there kids will be in school where they won’t be a token and where they will see themselves reflected in the curriculum and staff.

Black and brown parents do care about diversity, but they care MORE about academic excellence and safety and security.

That's why you'll often see black and brown parents MOVE their kids to more well-to-do, majority-white schools within MCPS, even though they're less diverse.

And often they fine, that while the academics are better their kids are often LESS safe and secure in said majority-white schools. Hence all the dust ups about racism, bullying and bias in schools generally but especially the majority schools. Because even after being in the better academic environment they still have to fight to have their child recognized as capable, still have to fight for equal opportunities, and have to work overtime at home and outside of school to be sure their kid is comfortable with their being. Which is why those black and brown parents will take a school that’s 8/10 or 7/10 and diverse instead of 9/10 but a majority white school.

The people in 3/10 schools often can’t afford to move to majority white school and really are fighting to have their community given what’s needed so they can raise the bar. And frankly what’s likely needed most needs to happen outside of the school day. After school programs that do tutoring and homework. Community programs that teach families English. Erin study programs for Junior/Senior HS students. Community policing.

This is not as universally true for black and brown parents as you're stating. Yes, I agree with you, there are SOME parents who will make that calculated tradeoff in academic performance/safety and diversity to the 7 or 8/10 as you put it. But there are ALSO black and brown parents who actively seek the 9/10 majority-white schools no matter what. Some of this might be rooted in white-supermacist programming that anything white is better, but that is the reality: Some black and brown parents want their kids in a W school no matter what just like some of the most fervent W school parents here on DCUM.

Black and brown parents aren't a monolith. Diversity is not the highest priority for all of them when making decisions about their schools. Is it a priority for some? Sure. To what degree? Your mileage may vary.

What's really jarring for most black and brown parents is thaty they chose to live in MCPS to not have to worry about academic quality and safety and security at all. Now, we're being woken up to the reality that our schools have similar concerns with regard to safety and academics as we do to our neighboring school districts that we have historically seen as our inferiors: PG County Public Schools and DC Public Schools.

We may have concerns and problems here, but given the choice between PG, DC, and MoCo I bet most people will still pick MoCo.

Sure. But that doesn't change the fact that most of us who moved to MoCo did so because we thought we'd never have to deal with the kinds of problems that we historically associated with PGCPS and DCPS.

Obviously this was a bit of hubris on our parts, but we were also led to believe as much by county and MCPS leadership.

Many of us have lived in MoCo all along.

Also, Fox5 asking "is MCPS still a premier school district" is very high on my to-not-worry-about list.

Good for you. Other people are worried about, hence the thread and conversation. Move along if you don't care.

I wouldn't say worried as much as a case of the tail wagging the dog.

Again, you're free to ignore this thread if you find it to be of no value to you.

People are also free to comment with their opinion about the topic of the thread - for example, that the topic of the thread is foolish.

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What do MCPS families feel these days on state of MCPS?