Feedback on full IB in mcps

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Anonymous wrote:How many students take the full IB and do not receive the IB diploma? Estimate - is it 50% or 99% of the students finish all requirements to receive the diploma. Curious.

Depends on the school. RMIB diploma rate is 90%+.

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Any kid in college who did IBDP and think it was not worth it? everyone's saying it is best prep for college.

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents of full IB students at one of the 8 ??? Mcps high schools with IB--- how much work has a full IB program for your kid? Are they stressed beyond expectation?
Was it a big jump from 10th to IB?
How is IB History
IB language (Spanish or French) difficult
IB Physics hard?
IB Math courses?
TOK 2 year class?
full IB worth it?

Hearing tech class doesn't need to be completed in 10th. For 10th they have signed up for health full year, Apush, four other required classes (incl their language class). If they take Physics in 10th, is IB Physics an option?

Writing writing writing even in math and science ones. Maybe even in IB Art which sounds very interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any kid in college who did IBDP and think it was not worth it? everyone's saying it is best prep for college.

It's not necessarily worth it for college admissions, but I have never heard of an IBDP graduate say that it did not prepare them for college.

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Anonymous wrote:For the parents of full IB students at one of the 8 ??? Mcps high schools with IB--- how much work has a full IB program for your kid? Are they stressed beyond expectation?
Was it a big jump from 10th to IB?
How is IB History
IB language (Spanish or French) difficult
IB Physics hard?
IB Math courses?
TOK 2 year class?
full IB worth it?

Hearing tech class doesn't need to be completed in 10th. For 10th they have signed up for health full year, Apush, four other required classes (incl their language class). If they take Physics in 10th, is IB Physics an option?

Writing writing writing even in math and science ones. Maybe even in IB Art which sounds very interesting.

My kid is in the RMIB and has not really had to ‘write’ in her Math classes. Not sure what you mean by that?

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Anonymous wrote:Any kid in college who did IBDP and think it was not worth it? everyone's saying it is best prep for college.

It's not necessarily worth it for college admissions, but I have never heard of an IBDP graduate say that it did not prepare them for college.

If you go to a wall to wall IB school, it's going to be the most rigorous program at that school. Not getting your IBDP in that situation would hurt your college admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Theres a lot less flexibility since you sign up for the two year package, the courses in math and science are are less rigurous, presumably there is more writing to make up for these shrtcomings. Not sure a 10 page writeup at the end redeems all these shortcomings, and the extended essay format is somewhat artificial and awkward. Other aspects of the program like the theory of knowledge feel gimmicky, nowhere will you find anything similar. The writing preparation seems to be focusing on the quantity instead of quality, but of course it depends on school, teacher and the student.

maybe, but the TOK and EE essays are graded by the IB org.

I didn't read all of DC's papers in IBDP, but I do know that they had to do a ton of research and experiment for their EE. DC chose the EE for their IB HL math class.

IMO, this is one of the best parts of IBDP - the research and analytical writing. I don't think the AP English classes do this much writing.

I’m wondering what kind of experiment you’d do for a high level math extended essay, perhaps you’re confused about what he actually did. Undergrad math and science classes are still mostly problem sets, lab reports and exams, do these well and you’re not going to be unprepared.

The theory of knowledge essay exemplifies how inflexible the program is, the topic doesn’t strike me as so important that every student has to write a paper on it. Also not a big fan of minimum word length requirements, makes some students adopt a convoluted writing style.

The AP diploma, research and capstone, is very similar but definitely not as successful as the IB program. Either students interested in writing gravitate towards IB or when given the choice prefer a class more focused on building the knowledge base that might help them more with college admissions.

You can wonder all you want, but I read DC's paper, and saw DC do the experiments. They got a 1580 on the SAT and is studying CS, straight As in college so far.

AP classes are nothing like IB classes. DC and all of the IB kids take both AP and IB classes. How many kids do you know who self study for IB exams, and get a 7? Whereas plenty of IB students self study for AP exams and get 5s, my DC included.

Almost all IB students have stated that IB has prepared them well for college. I don't think all AP students can say the same.

You post this dribble a lot. You've never had a kid who took both AP and IB, yet you have such strong opinions on IB. Oh, that's right.. you can have opinions about something you have never experienced because you "researched" it.

Got it, you read through your child’s paper and saw the experiments he did for his HL math essay. Sorry, but there’s not much experimentation in math, bizarre that you’re posting made up stories about your child’s success.

The fact that no AP kids self study for the IB exam, while the reverse is true, is actually an argument against IB. It’s likely because the IB credit is not as widely accepted to colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the CAS do? One of the IBDP requirements? Students do not have flexibility it seems if they want to take 2 HL science classes.

This is an issue. You can have at most 4 high level classes in the IB program.

To have a strong application to a selective college for a STEM intended major, you need rigorous classes in math, physics, chemistry and biology. Hard to get all of them and then you also need to consider colleges also want to see the student taking the rigorous classes in English, foreign language, and humanities/social studies.

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PP is oddly invested in hating on the IB program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP is oddly invested in hating on the IB program.

Yes, I find it baffling. If it's not for their kid, it's not for their kid.who cares.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the CAS do? One of the IBDP requirements? Students do not have flexibility it seems if they want to take 2 HL science classes.

This is an issue. You can have at most 4 high level classes in the IB program.

To have a strong application to a selective college for a STEM intended major, you need rigorous classes in math, physics, chemistry and biology. Hard to get all of them and then you also need to consider colleges also want to see the student taking the rigorous classes in English, foreign language, and humanities/social studies.

Agree with this. Hypothetical comparison between a student taking 4 HL classes in IBDP versus 8 AP, and it doesn’t look great for IB.

Question for people with kids that finished IB, how do you fit advanced coursework in all these subjects: math (2 years), english (2 years), physics, chemistry, biology, computer science, foreign language, history, plus a couple of electives? Roughly the equivalent of 12 AP classes that makes a student competitive for selective colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:PP is oddly invested in hating on the IB program.

Yes, I find it baffling. If it's not for their kid, it's not for their kid.who cares.

Various posters: The IB program was great for my kid.

Oddly-invested poster: NO YOU'RE RONG.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the CAS do? One of the IBDP requirements? Students do not have flexibility it seems if they want to take 2 HL science classes.

This is an issue. You can have at most 4 high level classes in the IB program.

To have a strong application to a selective college for a STEM intended major, you need rigorous classes in math, physics, chemistry and biology. Hard to get all of them and then you also need to consider colleges also want to see the student taking the rigorous classes in English, foreign language, and humanities/social studies.

Agree with this. Hypothetical comparison between a student taking 4 HL classes in IBDP versus 8 AP, and it doesn’t look great for IB.

Question for people with kids that finished IB, how do you fit advanced coursework in all these subjects: math (2 years), english (2 years), physics, chemistry, biology, computer science, foreign language, history, plus a couple of electives? Roughly the equivalent of 12 AP classes that makes a student competitive for selective colleges.

The same as you would if it were AP classes, only it's IB classes.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the CAS do? One of the IBDP requirements? Students do not have flexibility it seems if they want to take 2 HL science classes.

This is an issue. You can have at most 4 high level classes in the IB program.

To have a strong application to a selective college for a STEM intended major, you need rigorous classes in math, physics, chemistry and biology. Hard to get all of them and then you also need to consider colleges also want to see the student taking the rigorous classes in English, foreign language, and humanities/social studies.

Agree with this. Hypothetical comparison between a student taking 4 HL classes in IBDP versus 8 AP, and it doesn’t look great for IB.

Question for people with kids that finished IB, how do you fit advanced coursework in all these subjects: math (2 years), english (2 years), physics, chemistry, biology, computer science, foreign language, history, plus a couple of electives? Roughly the equivalent of 12 AP classes that makes a student competitive for selective colleges.

The same as you would if it were AP classes, only it's IB classes.

But they would be a mix of SL and HL classes, right? My concern is that HL is comparable with AP, while SL is not and it’s more like the equivalent of an honors class so you’d be at a disadvantage in a side by side comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the CAS do? One of the IBDP requirements? Students do not have flexibility it seems if they want to take 2 HL science classes.

This is an issue. You can have at most 4 high level classes in the IB program.

To have a strong application to a selective college for a STEM intended major, you need rigorous classes in math, physics, chemistry and biology. Hard to get all of them and then you also need to consider colleges also want to see the student taking the rigorous classes in English, foreign language, and humanities/social studies.

Agree with this. Hypothetical comparison between a student taking 4 HL classes in IBDP versus 8 AP, and it doesn’t look great for IB.

Question for people with kids that finished IB, how do you fit advanced coursework in all these subjects: math (2 years), english (2 years), physics, chemistry, biology, computer science, foreign language, history, plus a couple of electives? Roughly the equivalent of 12 AP classes that makes a student competitive for selective colleges.

The same as you would if it were AP classes, only it's IB classes.

But they would be a mix of SL and HL classes, right? My concern is that HL is comparable with AP, while SL is not and it’s more like the equivalent of an honors class so you’d be at a disadvantage in a side by side comparison.

Who says it's not?