2024 MS Criteria Based Lottery Results

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Anonymous wrote:I know very few (including me) will be lucky enough to be in this position but...

If you are eligible for both, and accept a position in one, does that automatically withdraw you from the waitlist for the other? Just thinking if your kid has a clear inclination towards one, but gets into the other, should you accept the one that you got into originally? Or hold out to see if you get a spot in the one that may be a better fit.

No. My kid got in to TPMS last Jan but waitlisted for Eastern. In July he was offered a space at Eastern.

Also, I should add that quite a lot of families seemed to be in this position last year. A significant number seemed to be offered both off the bat.

That's odd because it's a lottery.

It is but they went way through the waitlist at eastern and had trouble filling spots. That doesn’t explain why some families got two offers up front though.

It's because the lotteries are conducted independently from pools that are determined independently (though clearly with similar rubrics). There will be overlaps in the pools, probably a significant percentage, and overlap in the offers, though a much smaller percentage.

That would make sense but here on DCUM last year it was clear that a disproportionate number of people were offered both simultaneously.

If they'd only open their data, we'd be able to determine, stochastically, if there's a high liklihood of conspiracy.

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Anonymous wrote:Literally just got an email from TPMS welcoming my rising 5th grader. I guess I don't have to wait for the mail!

Same. My kid isn't going to want to go though.

Then, don’t send them. Let the spot go to an enthusiastic participant.

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Anonymous wrote:We got a letter in the mail today.

In pool/waitlist for Takoma.

Not in pool/waitlist for Eastern.

Girl of color with an IEP. Takes compacted 5/6 math and ELC curriculum in a downcounty FOCUS school.

Fall MAP M 245 (99th percentile)

Fall MAP R 238 (98th percentile)

Straight A's throughout her ES career, but got an 89 (B) for first quarter Reading, this year only. I assume this is why she wasn't in the Eastern pool. NBD

If you are interested in Eastern you could likely successfully appeal on the basis of her IEP.

Unlikely, as there already is an adjustment for those with IEPs. It's applied to the MAP, allowing a lower score (not that PP's DD needs that accommodation) but not to grades, presumably because the IEP currently in place is supposed to have provided adequate support on that front.

The appeals are supposed to be about new info that they didn't have (e.g., grade change) or individual circumstances not envisioned in their paradigm (IEP is). They also would put a student into the pool for subsequent lottery selection (as spots are declined) and ensure local enriched classes, rather than result in placement, directly.

Wrong. They have said vaguely that IEPs will be taken into account but not specifically how. It stands to reason that they’d give leeway for one grade with otherwise stellar test scores. It is absolutely worth an appeal.

DP. That's a whole lot of conjecture and speculation for you to say confidently declare what the PP said was wrong.

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Question for the experts, why does it say under "central review" that my daughter who is currently in compacted math and has all As and Map-M in the mid 90's - was not centrally identified to receive enrichment in her local middle? That seems odd.

Was ID'd for enrichment in Humanities/in the waitpool as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the experts, why does it say under "central review" that my daughter who is currently in compacted math and has all As and Map-M in the mid 90's - was not centrally identified to receive enrichment in her local middle? That seems odd.

Was ID'd for enrichment in Humanities/in the waitpool as well.

What's the FARMS rate at her home school? Is it so low as to be functionally zero?

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the experts, why does it say under "central review" that my daughter who is currently in compacted math and has all As and Map-M in the mid 90's - was not centrally identified to receive enrichment in her local middle? That seems odd.

Was ID'd for enrichment in Humanities/in the waitpool as well.

What's the FARMS rate at her home school? Is it so low as to be functionally zero?

Yes

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the experts, why does it say under "central review" that my daughter who is currently in compacted math and has all As and Map-M in the mid 90's - was not centrally identified to receive enrichment in her local middle? That seems odd.

Was ID'd for enrichment in Humanities/in the waitpool as well.

What's the FARMS rate at her home school? Is it so low as to be functionally zero?

Yes

Mine is in compacted, all As, 99th percentile (245 MAP-M). I would assume you'd need to be 95th or higher to be in the pool for low farms but they'd have to give exact cutoffs to be sure.

DC was waitlisted for both, and MAP-R was 95th percentile, low farms school.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the experts, why does it say under "central review" that my daughter who is currently in compacted math and has all As and Map-M in the mid 90's - was not centrally identified to receive enrichment in her local middle? That seems odd.

Was ID'd for enrichment in Humanities/in the waitpool as well.

What's the FARMS rate at her home school? Is it so low as to be functionally zero?

Yes

Mine is in compacted, all As, 99th percentile (245 MAP-M). I would assume you'd need to be 95th or higher to be in the pool for low farms but they'd have to give exact cutoffs to be sure.

DC was waitlisted for both, and MAP-R was 95th percentile, low farms school.

If someone is at a CES, do they use that school or their home school for normalization purposes?

I guess it could cut either way. The presence of the CES undoubtedly helps that school's test averages, but some CES locations have significantly higher FARMS rates than some of the schools that feed to them.

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Anonymous wrote:Question for the experts, why does it say under "central review" that my daughter who is currently in compacted math and has all As and Map-M in the mid 90's - was not centrally identified to receive enrichment in her local middle? That seems odd.

Was ID'd for enrichment in Humanities/in the waitpool as well.

What's the FARMS rate at her home school? Is it so low as to be functionally zero?

Yes

Mine is in compacted, all As, 99th percentile (245 MAP-M). I would assume you'd need to be 95th or higher to be in the pool for low farms but they'd have to give exact cutoffs to be sure.

DC was waitlisted for both, and MAP-R was 95th percentile, low farms school.

Did you get an email stating that your kid was identified to receive enrichment?

I'm the PP who thought I missed some deadline. Mine never received anything from county to say she was identified to be in lottery - she had a 244 in MAP-M spring 23 but went down to 238 Fall 23, now at 250 for winter 23. With MAP-R she was at 221 SP23, 232 Fall 23. Don't know her winter MAP-R yet. I appealed stating the winter MAP score has a significant jump from 238. No idea what percentile that would be in but hoping its above 95. But either ways shouldn't anyone above 85th percentile be in the lottery? She is in compacted Math.

Farms rate 30%

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With those scores and mod farm rate, she should've been identified.

Email your school resource teacher or principal to find out why you're not getting communication (email and snail mail).

Yes the letter indicates identification to receive enrichment.

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PP here - the 238 in MAP-M was at 97th percentile.

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Anonymous wrote:With those scores and mod farm rate, she should've been identified.

Email your school resource teacher or principal to find out why you're not getting communication (email and snail mail).

Yes the letter indicates identification to receive enrichment.

Thanks. I did the appeal though, so should I still email the Principal?

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Yes email admin at your school. Or contact DCCAP directly

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Anonymous wrote:Is the grading as tough at Takoma as it is at Eastern? Do a lot of kids end up with B's on their report card?

No. It's notoriously easy!

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Anonymous wrote:With those scores and mod farm rate, she should've been identified.

Email your school resource teacher or principal to find out why you're not getting communication (email and snail mail).

Yes the letter indicates identification to receive enrichment.

Thanks. I did the appeal though, so should I still email the Principal?

Also I just checked the staff directory and don't see anyone with the title resource teacher. There is a parent community coordinator and there is also the school counselor. Would it be one of these people?