Are Florida schools ruined now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Of course they are

1. DeSantis and his Nazi lovers mom’s for Liberty and Catholic crowd ruining already crappy public schools
2. Retire to Florida with DeSantis who isn’t leaving office and has run the state to the ground killing the cost of housing and insurance retirement not happening

Florida colleges are headed for no accreditation by 2025 yes morons this is going to happen.

Stop drinking. Travel more. Meet new friends.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Florida schools have been awful since the 80’s.

And yet their pupils repeatedly out rank more liberal states in Nation’s report card (states with far higher education budgets for their public schools than Florida). Cough. Cough. Maryland.

Isn't the NMSF cut off higher in MD than FL by several points.. cough cough.

https://www.compassprep.com/national-merit-semifinalist-cutoffs/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Please consider retiring in a liberal state and observe the outcome.

Regarding public schools, are your grandchildren residing with you? If so, this might be another instance of the older generation impacting the economy negatively for the younger people, who then struggle to afford independent living. Furthermore, the emphasis in education should be on in-demand skills. Hence, certain books might be seen as cultural distractions. The priority should be to guide our children towards STEM and technical English, rather than left-wing ideology. Left-wing perspectives can be explored outside of school, perhaps at your Unitarian Universalist church or through external clubs.

Well said.

No it isn’t. It’s moronically said.

People like DeSantis and pp would like to make James Clavell’s short story “The Children’s Story” a reality.

Nope. Sounds like Florida isn’t for you and that’s ok.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

I am not listening to "propaganda" -- I am listening to teacher friends in Florida who have had to empty their classrooms of books. And a friend whose first grader is in a school where the storybook about two male penguins caring for an egg was taken out of the school.

Oh come on, that's propaganda 101. There are books everywhere in FL schools and libraries. If your "friends" want porn and anti-science distributed as educational materials....that says everything about you. Do look into those books and see what you think. No single European school system carries them because they are just porn and anti-science stuff.

None of what you wrote is true. Orlando schools district pulled almost 700 titles from its shelves.

Fake news. There are books being reviewed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

I am not listening to "propaganda" -- I am listening to teacher friends in Florida who have had to empty their classrooms of books. And a friend whose first grader is in a school where the storybook about two male penguins caring for an egg was taken out of the school.

Oh come on, that's propaganda 101. There are books everywhere in FL schools and libraries. If your "friends" want porn and anti-science distributed as educational materials....that says everything about you. Do look into those books and see what you think. No single European school system carries them because they are just porn and anti-science stuff.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Please consider retiring in a liberal state and observe the outcome.

Regarding public schools, are your grandchildren residing with you? If so, this might be another instance of the older generation impacting the economy negatively for the younger people, who then struggle to afford independent living. Furthermore, the emphasis in education should be on in-demand skills. Hence, certain books might be seen as cultural distractions. The priority should be to guide our children towards STEM and technical English, rather than left-wing ideology. Left-wing perspectives can be explored outside of school, perhaps at your Unitarian Universalist church or through external clubs.

Wut.

No, the priority of schools should be to teach students a wide range of academic schools and how to think critically. It should also be to teach children how to be good citizens, including how to have empathy in a multicultural society. This means teaching a wide variety of perspectives found in a wide body of literature.

STEM and “technical English” can be options but they also need to learn real history/civics/social studies, logic, foreign languages, physical education, music/theater and how to be good citizens. Their education is for the good of society moreso than for themselves personally.

Your paranoia about “left-wing perspectives” is duly noted but the the fact that you even said that immediately disqualifies you as a serious person whose opinion on this should be considered valid. It isn’t. So you are excused from commenting further in this thread.

The left has lost the narrative of being the party for critical thinking. You have places like MCPS that when confronted with actual diversity, called groups of Ethiopian and Muslim parents transphobes and white supremacist because they objected to their primary school children learning about gender theory.
Schools like J/R in DC is in full Holocaust denial because the adults are afraid of teaching empathy and history to children, lest they hurt feelings. How is that teaching children to be good citizens?
Democrats also forced schools to shut down way longer than places like Florida, showing that certain adults abandoned their post and their charges due to their own selfishness. You don't think these kids saw everyone else going to work? They aren't stupid.

No one called Ethiopian or Muslims white supremacists. Enough with that nonsense. There certainly were transphobes, though. They were rightly told their objections were invalid. If they want to live in this country they will need to assimilate to our more tolerant society.

And spare me your bullshit about the Holocaust and teaching it in schools. Right wingers are closely tied to antisemitism and Holocaust denial. See the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville or Texas school policy. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/19/texas-holocaust-curriculum-schools-hb-3979

"I love diversity!*"
*As long as people only think, believe and act exactly like me. How dare this brown people have their own beliefs! Go back where you came from amiright?

NP. Should we allow honor killings in the name of accepting veery’s beliefs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

I am not listening to "propaganda" -- I am listening to teacher friends in Florida who have had to empty their classrooms of books. And a friend whose first grader is in a school where the storybook about two male penguins caring for an egg was taken out of the school.

Oh come on, that's propaganda 101. There are books everywhere in FL schools and libraries. If your "friends" want porn and anti-science distributed as educational materials....that says everything about you. Do look into those books and see what you think. No single European school system carries them because they are just porn and anti-science stuff.

WTF. You just called that poster a liar for telling you a real life encounter from inside information. Do you work in the Florida schools with inside knowledge or are you just a denier at all costs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

I am not listening to "propaganda" -- I am listening to teacher friends in Florida who have had to empty their classrooms of books. And a friend whose first grader is in a school where the storybook about two male penguins caring for an egg was taken out of the school.

Oh come on, that's propaganda 101. There are books everywhere in FL schools and libraries. If your "friends" want porn and anti-science distributed as educational materials....that says everything about you. Do look into those books and see what you think. No single European school system carries them because they are just porn and anti-science stuff.

None of what you wrote is true. Orlando schools district pulled almost 700 titles from its shelves.

Fake news. There are books being reviewed.

Stop with the fake news BS. That Schlick is old. The Miami Herald reported that over 1400 books banned in Florida.
https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article279568719.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

I am not listening to "propaganda" -- I am listening to teacher friends in Florida who have had to empty their classrooms of books. And a friend whose first grader is in a school where the storybook about two male penguins caring for an egg was taken out of the school.

Oh come on, that's propaganda 101. There are books everywhere in FL schools and libraries. If your "friends" want porn and anti-science distributed as educational materials....that says everything about you. Do look into those books and see what you think. No single European school system carries them because they are just porn and anti-science stuff.

None of what you wrote is true. Orlando schools district pulled almost 700 titles from its shelves.

Fake news. There are books being reviewed.

Stop with the fake news BS. That Schlick is old. The Miami Herald reported that over 1400 books banned in Florida.
https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article279568719.html

Can’t you read your own links?

They define as ban as “any action taken against a book” which is pure nonsense. Teachers and librarians review and update materials all the time.

“Most book bans recorded this past year are currently classified as “banned pending investigation,” meaning the book has been removed during review.“

All books are accessible for purchase by parents who want their kids to access the material during the review process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

I am not listening to "propaganda" -- I am listening to teacher friends in Florida who have had to empty their classrooms of books. And a friend whose first grader is in a school where the storybook about two male penguins caring for an egg was taken out of the school.

Oh come on, that's propaganda 101. There are books everywhere in FL schools and libraries. If your "friends" want porn and anti-science distributed as educational materials....that says everything about you. Do look into those books and see what you think. No single European school system carries them because they are just porn and anti-science stuff.

None of what you wrote is true. Orlando schools district pulled almost 700 titles from its shelves.

Fake news. There are books being reviewed.

Stop with the fake news BS. That Schlick is old. The Miami Herald reported that over 1400 books banned in Florida.
https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article279568719.html

Can’t you read your own links?

They define as ban as “any action taken against a book” which is pure nonsense. Teachers and librarians review and update materials all the time.

“Most book bans recorded this past year are currently classified as “banned pending investigation,” meaning the book has been removed during review.“

All books are accessible for purchase by parents who want their kids to access the material during the review process.

This is still ridiculous and terrible and you are a fool if you don't realize it.

Classics like Shakespeare have been pulled from the shelves. Because one person complained.

It is anti-American.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

I am not listening to "propaganda" -- I am listening to teacher friends in Florida who have had to empty their classrooms of books. And a friend whose first grader is in a school where the storybook about two male penguins caring for an egg was taken out of the school.

Oh come on, that's propaganda 101. There are books everywhere in FL schools and libraries. If your "friends" want porn and anti-science distributed as educational materials....that says everything about you. Do look into those books and see what you think. No single European school system carries them because they are just porn and anti-science stuff.

None of what you wrote is true. Orlando schools district pulled almost 700 titles from its shelves.

Fake news. There are books being reviewed.

Stop with the fake news BS. That Schlick is old. The Miami Herald reported that over 1400 books banned in Florida.
https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article279568719.html

Can’t you read your own links?

They define as ban as “any action taken against a book” which is pure nonsense. Teachers and librarians review and update materials all the time.

“Most book bans recorded this past year are currently classified as “banned pending investigation,” meaning the book has been removed during review.“

All books are accessible for purchase by parents who want their kids to access the material during the review process.

Several PPs can't even read yet they are deeeeeeply concerned about "banned" books. It's frankly comical yet sad what a poot education they got and yet they are concerned about another state.

[Anonymous]

My sister taught in the Hillsborough County school system for many many years. She got her degree in the university of Southern Florida in Tampa. She has since left the state and is teaching in a different state right now. And her teacher friends are one by one doing the same. it has become very difficult and disheartening to teach in Florida

[Anonymous]

https://flathatnews.com/2021/09/19/do-student-athletes-come-from-more-privileged-backgrounds-athletes-have-higher-hometown-median-household-income-many-families-spend-thousands-on-club-sports/

The fact is that new laws, backed by extremist rhetoric from a governor and legislature with a track record for using the office to pursue personal vendettas (Disney retaliation), provide for potential felony charges, and there isn't enough enforcement history to know what's allowed. It's a "chilling effect".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My sister taught in the Hillsborough County school system for many many years. She got her degree in the university of Southern Florida in Tampa. She has since left the state and is teaching in a different state right now. And her teacher friends are one by one doing the same. it has become very difficult and disheartening to teach in Florida

So many people are moving down to Florida that prices are going up and some people can't keep up. Unfortunate. I can't tell you how many NY families have relocated since Covid, often blaming their poor schools back home. It's over a million people in just three years, Florida must be doing something right, best to your sister in her new state.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My sister taught in the Hillsborough County school system for many many years. She got her degree in the university of Southern Florida in Tampa. She has since left the state and is teaching in a different state right now. And her teacher friends are one by one doing the same. it has become very difficult and disheartening to teach in Florida

So many people are moving down to Florida that prices are going up and some people can't keep up. Unfortunate. I can't tell you how many NY families have relocated since Covid, often blaming their poor schools back home. It's over a million people in just three years, Florida must be doing something right, best to your sister in her new state.

Florida is not doing anything right with the schools. People have always moved to Florida for the weather. Then they move away again when hurricanes come.

It will take a few years for the rot to show in the Florida schools. No Shakespeare or other classics will slash Florida education scores, as well as no sex education to speak of. It is a mess, and you must not have actual school age kids if you don't realize this.




-- Floridian since 1969