Are Florida schools ruined now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, OP, it's the one state in the country I'd actually consider public schools.

We're in DC and no way would I let my kids in DCPS.

Why? Plenty of other states are just as right wing.

[Anonymous]

Yes, Florida has especially ruined high school. Would not want to be a poor or middle class teenager there, trying to prepare for college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, OP, it's the one state in the country I'd actually consider public schools.

We're in DC and no way would I let my kids in DCPS.

Why? Plenty of other states are just as right wing.

That's good to know!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers all over the country are resigning because of problems in public schools. Book rules are a blip compared to some of the things I hear about (inability to discipline problem students, having to pass everyone, elimination of honors/gifted, micromanaging administration).

No, teachers aren’t resigning for the reasons you cite. They are resigning because parents have become insane and out of control (although that probably contributes to micromanagement and dumbing down of schools).

This is part of the stealth, right-wing attack on public schools. It’s been under way for 40-some years but has become increasingly worse. Especially during and after Covid when parents behaved incredibly nasty and got to the point where they thought they could micromanage what happens in individual classrooms.

Always remember that right wingers want a dumb electorate as it’s the only way their candidates can hope to get elected if they can’t gerrymander.

Yup. They want to burn down the schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Please consider retiring in a liberal state and observe the outcome.

Regarding public schools, are your grandchildren residing with you? If so, this might be another instance of the older generation impacting the economy negatively for the younger people, who then struggle to afford independent living. Furthermore, the emphasis in education should be on in-demand skills. Hence, certain books might be seen as cultural distractions. The priority should be to guide our children towards STEM and technical English, rather than left-wing ideology. Left-wing perspectives can be explored outside of school, perhaps at your Unitarian Universalist church or through external clubs.

Wut.

No, the priority of schools should be to teach students a wide range of academic schools and how to think critically. It should also be to teach children how to be good citizens, including how to have empathy in a multicultural society. This means teaching a wide variety of perspectives found in a wide body of literature.

STEM and “technical English” can be options but they also need to learn real history/civics/social studies, logic, foreign languages, physical education, music/theater and how to be good citizens. Their education is for the good of society moreso than for themselves personally.

Your paranoia about “left-wing perspectives” is duly noted but the the fact that you even said that immediately disqualifies you as a serious person whose opinion on this should be considered valid. It isn’t. So you are excused from commenting further in this thread.

The left has lost the narrative of being the party for critical thinking. You have places like MCPS that when confronted with actual diversity, called groups of Ethiopian and Muslim parents transphobes and white supremacist because they objected to their primary school children learning about gender theory.
Schools like J/R in DC is in full Holocaust denial because the adults are afraid of teaching empathy and history to children, lest they hurt feelings. How is that teaching children to be good citizens?
Democrats also forced schools to shut down way longer than places like Florida, showing that certain adults abandoned their post and their charges due to their own selfishness. You don't think these kids saw everyone else going to work? They aren't stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Please consider retiring in a liberal state and observe the outcome.

Regarding public schools, are your grandchildren residing with you? If so, this might be another instance of the older generation impacting the economy negatively for the younger people, who then struggle to afford independent living. Furthermore, the emphasis in education should be on in-demand skills. Hence, certain books might be seen as cultural distractions. The priority should be to guide our children towards STEM and technical English, rather than left-wing ideology. Left-wing perspectives can be explored outside of school, perhaps at your Unitarian Universalist church or through external clubs.

Wut.

No, the priority of schools should be to teach students a wide range of academic schools and how to think critically. It should also be to teach children how to be good citizens, including how to have empathy in a multicultural society. This means teaching a wide variety of perspectives found in a wide body of literature.

STEM and “technical English” can be options but they also need to learn real history/civics/social studies, logic, foreign languages, physical education, music/theater and how to be good citizens. Their education is for the good of society moreso than for themselves personally.

Your paranoia about “left-wing perspectives” is duly noted but the the fact that you even said that immediately disqualifies you as a serious person whose opinion on this should be considered valid. It isn’t. So you are excused from commenting further in this thread.

Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, Florida has especially ruined high school. Would not want to be a poor or middle class teenager there, trying to prepare for college.

HAHAHA. You should have seen how progressive counties like Montgomery and Fairfax treated high schoolers in 2020 and 2021 trying to prepare for college with schools shut down.
I have never seen children treated so poorly. Thank god these same adults were not on the Titanic. No children would have made it to the life boats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Please consider retiring in a liberal state and observe the outcome.

Regarding public schools, are your grandchildren residing with you? If so, this might be another instance of the older generation impacting the economy negatively for the younger people, who then struggle to afford independent living. Furthermore, the emphasis in education should be on in-demand skills. Hence, certain books might be seen as cultural distractions. The priority should be to guide our children towards STEM and technical English, rather than left-wing ideology. Left-wing perspectives can be explored outside of school, perhaps at your Unitarian Universalist church or through external clubs.

Wut.

No, the priority of schools should be to teach students a wide range of academic schools and how to think critically. It should also be to teach children how to be good citizens, including how to have empathy in a multicultural society. This means teaching a wide variety of perspectives found in a wide body of literature.

STEM and “technical English” can be options but they also need to learn real history/civics/social studies, logic, foreign languages, physical education, music/theater and how to be good citizens. Their education is for the good of society moreso than for themselves personally.

Your paranoia about “left-wing perspectives” is duly noted but the the fact that you even said that immediately disqualifies you as a serious person whose opinion on this should be considered valid. It isn’t. So you are excused from commenting further in this thread.

The left has lost the narrative of being the party for critical thinking. You have places like MCPS that when confronted with actual diversity, called groups of Ethiopian and Muslim parents transphobes and white supremacist because they objected to their primary school children learning about gender theory.
Schools like J/R in DC is in full Holocaust denial because the adults are afraid of teaching empathy and history to children, lest they hurt feelings. How is that teaching children to be good citizens?
Democrats also forced schools to shut down way longer than places like Florida, showing that certain adults abandoned their post and their charges due to their own selfishness. You don't think these kids saw everyone else going to work? They aren't stupid.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Please consider retiring in a liberal state and observe the outcome.

Regarding public schools, are your grandchildren residing with you? If so, this might be another instance of the older generation impacting the economy negatively for the younger people, who then struggle to afford independent living. Furthermore, the emphasis in education should be on in-demand skills. Hence, certain books might be seen as cultural distractions. The priority should be to guide our children towards STEM and technical English, rather than left-wing ideology. Left-wing perspectives can be explored outside of school, perhaps at your Unitarian Universalist church or through external clubs.

Wut.

No, the priority of schools should be to teach students a wide range of academic schools and how to think critically. It should also be to teach children how to be good citizens, including how to have empathy in a multicultural society. This means teaching a wide variety of perspectives found in a wide body of literature.

STEM and “technical English” can be options but they also need to learn real history/civics/social studies, logic, foreign languages, physical education, music/theater and how to be good citizens. Their education is for the good of society moreso than for themselves personally.

Your paranoia about “left-wing perspectives” is duly noted but the the fact that you even said that immediately disqualifies you as a serious person whose opinion on this should be considered valid. It isn’t. So you are excused from commenting further in this thread.

The left has lost the narrative of being the party for critical thinking. You have places like MCPS that when confronted with actual diversity, called groups of Ethiopian and Muslim parents transphobes and white supremacist because they objected to their primary school children learning about gender theory.
Schools like J/R in DC is in full Holocaust denial because the adults are afraid of teaching empathy and history to children, lest they hurt feelings. How is that teaching children to be good citizens?
Democrats also forced schools to shut down way longer than places like Florida, showing that certain adults abandoned their post and their charges due to their own selfishness. You don't think these kids saw everyone else going to work? They aren't stupid.

Exhibit A of how conservative-think is destroying our country and undermining our public schools. Suckers like the PP above are lost. And still voting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Please consider retiring in a liberal state and observe the outcome.

Regarding public schools, are your grandchildren residing with you? If so, this might be another instance of the older generation impacting the economy negatively for the younger people, who then struggle to afford independent living. Furthermore, the emphasis in education should be on in-demand skills. Hence, certain books might be seen as cultural distractions. The priority should be to guide our children towards STEM and technical English, rather than left-wing ideology. Left-wing perspectives can be explored outside of school, perhaps at your Unitarian Universalist church or through external clubs.

Wut.

No, the priority of schools should be to teach students a wide range of academic schools and how to think critically. It should also be to teach children how to be good citizens, including how to have empathy in a multicultural society. This means teaching a wide variety of perspectives found in a wide body of literature.

STEM and “technical English” can be options but they also need to learn real history/civics/social studies, logic, foreign languages, physical education, music/theater and how to be good citizens. Their education is for the good of society moreso than for themselves personally.

Your paranoia about “left-wing perspectives” is duly noted but the the fact that you even said that immediately disqualifies you as a serious person whose opinion on this should be considered valid. It isn’t. So you are excused from commenting further in this thread.

The left has lost the narrative of being the party for critical thinking. You have places like MCPS that when confronted with actual diversity, called groups of Ethiopian and Muslim parents transphobes and white supremacist because they objected to their primary school children learning about gender theory.
Schools like J/R in DC is in full Holocaust denial because the adults are afraid of teaching empathy and history to children, lest they hurt feelings. How is that teaching children to be good citizens?
Democrats also forced schools to shut down way longer than places like Florida, showing that certain adults abandoned their post and their charges due to their own selfishness. You don't think these kids saw everyone else going to work? They aren't stupid.

No one called Ethiopian or Muslims white supremacists. Enough with that nonsense. There certainly were transphobes, though. They were rightly told their objections were invalid. If they want to live in this country they will need to assimilate to our more tolerant society.

And spare me your bullshit about the Holocaust and teaching it in schools. Right wingers are closely tied to antisemitism and Holocaust denial. See the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville or Texas school policy. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/19/texas-holocaust-curriculum-schools-hb-3979

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Florida colleges are in demand.

...for morons

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Please consider retiring in a liberal state and observe the outcome.

Regarding public schools, are your grandchildren residing with you? If so, this might be another instance of the older generation impacting the economy negatively for the younger people, who then struggle to afford independent living. Furthermore, the emphasis in education should be on in-demand skills. Hence, certain books might be seen as cultural distractions. The priority should be to guide our children towards STEM and technical English, rather than left-wing ideology. Left-wing perspectives can be explored outside of school, perhaps at your Unitarian Universalist church or through external clubs.

Wut.

No, the priority of schools should be to teach students a wide range of academic schools and how to think critically. It should also be to teach children how to be good citizens, including how to have empathy in a multicultural society. This means teaching a wide variety of perspectives found in a wide body of literature.

STEM and “technical English” can be options but they also need to learn real history/civics/social studies, logic, foreign languages, physical education, music/theater and how to be good citizens. Their education is for the good of society moreso than for themselves personally.

Your paranoia about “left-wing perspectives” is duly noted but the the fact that you even said that immediately disqualifies you as a serious person whose opinion on this should be considered valid. It isn’t. So you are excused from commenting further in this thread.

The left has lost the narrative of being the party for critical thinking. You have places like MCPS that when confronted with actual diversity, called groups of Ethiopian and Muslim parents transphobes and white supremacist because they objected to their primary school children learning about gender theory.
Schools like J/R in DC is in full Holocaust denial because the adults are afraid of teaching empathy and history to children, lest they hurt feelings. How is that teaching children to be good citizens?
Democrats also forced schools to shut down way longer than places like Florida, showing that certain adults abandoned their post and their charges due to their own selfishness. You don't think these kids saw everyone else going to work? They aren't stupid.

Exhibit A of how conservative-think is destroying our country and undermining our public schools. Suckers like the PP above are lost. And still voting.

It’s like a disease. And the really far gone ones are obsessed. See how like 11 people filed something like 90% of all the challenges to books in schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, Florida has especially ruined high school. Would not want to be a poor or middle class teenager there, trying to prepare for college.

Yet, the State of Florida provides free college on the Bright Futures program.

Does your middle class or poor teen get free college from your state?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I grew up in Florida and loved it. But we have since moved away. My Florida friends who are teaching are all retiring early because of the crazy new book rules. Orlando schools have censored over 700 titles!

Do you feel Florida schools are teaching your children appropriately? Are you in favor of these draconian rules?

We want to move back to Florida retirement but not if it is now Mississippi.

Don't believe the partisan propaganda. FL schools are doing better than ever, it's one of the reasons for the continued migration there.

[Anonymous]

I would not love anywhere where schools were a political football, and that’s the BEST thing you can say about florida schools.