JMU vs. Colby

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.


The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?


What does acceptance rate tell us?


It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.


JMU's acceptance rate is 78%.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/james-madison-university-3721
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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.


The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?


What does acceptance rate tell us?


It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.


DP. Please get your facts correct. Thanks.
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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.


The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?


What does acceptance rate tell us?


It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.


JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.
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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.


The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?


What does acceptance rate tell us?


It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.


JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.


Let me put it this way: When kids apply to college, counselors tell them to pick a few safeties, a few targets, and a few reach schools. The definition of each type is driven mostly by the acceptance rate. At my DD’s school, the safety school should have an acceptance rate over 40-50 percent. JMU would definitely fall into that category (78 versus over 80 percent hardly makes any difference) Colby would be a reach, given its low acceptance rate.
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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.


The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?


What does acceptance rate tell us?


It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.


JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.


You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.
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I had never heard of JMU until I went to college in VA, and after graduating and leaving VA, never heard of it again until I saw this board and thought, "Oh, yeah, JMU...." And that's keeping in mind I've been in the DMV most of that time--but in DC and MD. I've heard of Colby several times in the interim.
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Anonymous wrote:Colby!!!!!!!!!!

JMU is really just a VA/DMV school. I've always heard of Colby (not from this area) but I've never heard of JMU until I moved here. But I am a small liberal arts graduate so maybe it was in my orbit from when I applied to college. And then in law school, I knew lots of Colby grads. Didn't know any from JMU.


i’m not this area, but I came to Virginia because I got my MBA at Darden. I still have never heard of a Colby, except of you are talking about the cheese, but i did go to business school with a handful of people from JMU. Many of them incredibly successful.
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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.


The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?


What does acceptance rate tell us?


It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.


JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.


You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.


JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.
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Colby is more than $80K a year. We sent both of our kids to in-state Virginia because that's what we could afford.
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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.


The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?


What does acceptance rate tell us?


It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.


JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.


You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.


JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.


Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…
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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.


The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?


What does acceptance rate tell us?


It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.


JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.


You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.


JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.


Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…


Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?

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Anonymous wrote:Colby!!!!!!!!!!

JMU is really just a VA/DMV school. I've always heard of Colby (not from this area) but I've never heard of JMU until I moved here. But I am a small liberal arts graduate so maybe it was in my orbit from when I applied to college. And then in law school, I knew lots of Colby grads. Didn't know any from JMU.


Well, among the 20 or so graduates of my sorority alone in my grad year from JMU, two went to Georgetown and one to UVA for law school. I wonder how many from Colby got into those schools altogether that same year. You are ignorant when it comes to comparing universities. Colby is a joke, honestly. It's for wealthy private school kids who didn't get into top schools and think they're too good for JMU.


Damn. How do you even get a seatbelt on when you drove. That chip on your shoulder must be hell to navigate.

OP—
https://afa.colby.edu/outcomes/#:~:text=Colby%20is%20a%20springboard%2C&text=that%20help%20our%20graduates%20start,salary%20of%20more%20than%20%24100%2C000.


You don't need to be rude. https://www.jmu.edu/career/careeroutcomes/index.shtml


NP. True and the poster before that one didn’t need to be rude, either. Colby is far from a “joke”, as they called it.
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Anonymous wrote:Op here. It is a tougher choice than I would have thought. If we were just looking at academic reputation in a vacuum, Colby is an easy choice. But it is also big vs. small school, isolated vs. close-enough to other things/big town. I am a bit of a reputation-snob myself but even I am struggling with advising DC. What they want as a major is offered at both. Sport would offer a friend-group at both.


The differential in acceptance rates tells you everything you need to know. If location was an issue, why did DC apply to Colby?!?


What does acceptance rate tell us?


It tells you something about the quality of the student body. JMU’s acceptance rate is over 80 percent. Colby’s is below 10 percent. The SAT/ACT and GPA figures are vastly different too.


JMU is much larger, so acceptance rate is an ineffective comparison tool. Acceptance rates can also be gamed in an effort to manipulate rankings.


You can’t be this ignorant. What does the size of the school have to do with its acceptance rate? JMU’s acceptance rate is 78%. Colby’s is under 10%.

In terms of size, Cornell University has about 5K kids in its 2027 class which is the same number as JMU’s class of 2027. Cornell’s acceptance rate is 8%. Please explain how acceptance rates are gamed to account for a 70 point difference.


JMU accepts more students than Colby to fill a larger class. Cornell receives more apps than JMU which means it wins a popularity contest with JMU. None of this equates to quality of student body as you suggest.


Oh, boy! You seem to be missing some basic analytical skills. By the same argument, JMU is as good as Harvard or Yale. Anyway, I give up…


Nope, not what I said. Do you have any evidence that acceptance rates equate to student body quality?



You are correct that acceptance rates are not an indicator of student body quality. But GPAs and test scorers are (though not perfect), and those show that Colby students are definitely a cut above those at JMU.
Anonymous
OP, I think your kid will get an excellent education at either school, and I don’t think job prospects are going to be vastly different. Certainly, your kid must have a general feeling of where they would be happier—a large rah-rah school, more kids from the DMV, big Greek life, more temperate climate vs. small school, more isolated (not necessarily a bad thing), cold weather and snow, a bit more academically focused. If they truly can’t decide, take the time to make another visit to both schools at similar times, I guess this would be in January/February.
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Anonymous wrote:Op here: Cost not a factor. Wondering about reputational aspects for post-grade job prospects.

COLBY
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