Can I sue Callie Oettinger?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Is not accurate. FCPS staff do very much care about privacy of educational records. A mistake was made. FCPS could hire a “data/records expert” at each school or pyramid. Advocate for change with processes and more positions to take burden of school staff who are over-worked and not experts in this area. Let educators focus on educating. Let principals focus on admin. There are several processes where errors could happen. Special education teachers have to email or print a PDF document of IEP progress reports every quarter. Do you know how much STRESS staff have over this? Do you know how easy it is to make a mistake and send the wrong document to the wrong parent? Not all parents use sis parent vue so we have to email or print and send home. It is easy to make a mistake. Please have some grace for SCHOOL staff. Take your anger out on FCPS central office who develops processes and determines positions. Take your anger out on Callie who acted viciously and unethically and thinks she is “entitled” because “her child’s rights are violated.” Do not make statements like “FCPS doesn’t care”. That is not true. This is another stain that makes it harder for school staff to have positive relationships with families, and leads to professionals not wanting to work for FCPS or with these special parents/advocates. I wish these advocates and parents would conduct themselves professionally and ethically.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Nope. FCPS didn't "willingly" hand it over--it was accidental. And made more likely to happen by the endless badgering for information by Callie in an already stressed public school system. The real crime is that Callie "willingly" shared that information with others and published it online.
Unintentional leaks don't allow you to do whatever you want with the goods. We can sue Callie who intentionally acted wrongly with information AND we can lobby for better privacy protection. I think it's incredibly important to punish her and to deter people who think they can act with impunity with data that doesn't belong to them because they have some cause they are invested in.

It seems you don’t care that FCPS has no process to ensure this doesn’t happen. I don’t know Callie, but at least she scrubbed the data. What happens next time when a nefarious character doesn’t? Then what? What if it’s your kids’s personal non-scrubbed data out there that is used against them in the future. Then will you still feel like it’s not the school’s job? That they’re stressed and it’s a mistake? BS. FCPS has the responsibility to protect data, by state and federal laws. They have failed multiple times and do nothing to change it. And here you are making excuses they’re busy or stressed. What’s next? Blame the kids for having personal information?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Is not accurate. FCPS staff do very much care about privacy of educational records. A mistake was made. FCPS could hire a “data/records expert” at each school or pyramid. Advocate for change with processes and more positions to take burden of school staff who are over-worked and not experts in this area. Let educators focus on educating. Let principals focus on admin. There are several processes where errors could happen. Special education teachers have to email or print a PDF document of IEP progress reports every quarter. Do you know how much STRESS staff have over this? Do you know how easy it is to make a mistake and send the wrong document to the wrong parent? Not all parents use sis parent vue so we have to email or print and send home. It is easy to make a mistake. Please have some grace for SCHOOL staff. Take your anger out on FCPS central office who develops processes and determines positions. Take your anger out on Callie who acted viciously and unethically and thinks she is “entitled” because “her child’s rights are violated.” Do not make statements like “FCPS doesn’t care”. That is not true. This is another stain that makes it harder for school staff to have positive relationships with families, and leads to professionals not wanting to work for FCPS or with these special parents/advocates. I wish these advocates and parents would conduct themselves professionally and ethically.

FCPS is a $3B operation yet run like a corner store. For all the money it receives it should be managed much better. Zero sympathy for people who can’t do their jobs and then blame others for their mistakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Nope. FCPS didn't "willingly" hand it over--it was accidental. And made more likely to happen by the endless badgering for information by Callie in an already stressed public school system. The real crime is that Callie "willingly" shared that information with others and published it online.
Unintentional leaks don't allow you to do whatever you want with the goods. We can sue Callie who intentionally acted wrongly with information AND we can lobby for better privacy protection. I think it's incredibly important to punish her and to deter people who think they can act with impunity with data that doesn't belong to them because they have some cause they are invested in.

Actually a judge - you know, someone who has a legal degree - disagrees with you. FCPS has an obligation to protect data, like Target does. If the current staff can’t handle it, they have an obligation to ensure someone is in place to ensure the laws are followed. Doctors are some of the most stressed and busy professionals. Yet you would sue if they pulled this with your data, as should you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Is not accurate. FCPS staff do very much care about privacy of educational records. A mistake was made. FCPS could hire a “data/records expert” at each school or pyramid. Advocate for change with processes and more positions to take burden of school staff who are over-worked and not experts in this area. Let educators focus on educating. Let principals focus on admin. There are several processes where errors could happen. Special education teachers have to email or print a PDF document of IEP progress reports every quarter. Do you know how much STRESS staff have over this? Do you know how easy it is to make a mistake and send the wrong document to the wrong parent? Not all parents use sis parent vue so we have to email or print and send home. It is easy to make a mistake. Please have some grace for SCHOOL staff. Take your anger out on FCPS central office who develops processes and determines positions. Take your anger out on Callie who acted viciously and unethically and thinks she is “entitled” because “her child’s rights are violated.” Do not make statements like “FCPS doesn’t care”. That is not true. This is another stain that makes it harder for school staff to have positive relationships with families, and leads to professionals not wanting to work for FCPS or with these special parents/advocates. I wish these advocates and parents would conduct themselves professionally and ethically.

FCPS is a $3B operation yet run like a corner store. For all the money it receives it should be managed much better. Zero sympathy for people who can’t do their jobs and then blame others for their mistakes.

Umm. Both are culpable as has been stated multiple times. FCPS IT is woeful. Callie is worse — she clearly doesn’t care the system is broken and purposely made the problem bigger by publishing the data. Sad that she doesn’t see her part in this mess. She is not a white hat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Is not accurate. FCPS staff do very much care about privacy of educational records. A mistake was made. FCPS could hire a “data/records expert” at each school or pyramid. Advocate for change with processes and more positions to take burden of school staff who are over-worked and not experts in this area. Let educators focus on educating. Let principals focus on admin. There are several processes where errors could happen. Special education teachers have to email or print a PDF document of IEP progress reports every quarter. Do you know how much STRESS staff have over this? Do you know how easy it is to make a mistake and send the wrong document to the wrong parent? Not all parents use sis parent vue so we have to email or print and send home. It is easy to make a mistake. Please have some grace for SCHOOL staff. Take your anger out on FCPS central office who develops processes and determines positions. Take your anger out on Callie who acted viciously and unethically and thinks she is “entitled” because “her child’s rights are violated.” Do not make statements like “FCPS doesn’t care”. That is not true. This is another stain that makes it harder for school staff to have positive relationships with families, and leads to professionals not wanting to work for FCPS or with these special parents/advocates. I wish these advocates and parents would conduct themselves professionally and ethically.

Cliffs notes version - if you’re too busy or stressed, it’s someone else’s fault you can’t do your job or follow the law.

Also known as “Society 2023”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Is not accurate. FCPS staff do very much care about privacy of educational records. A mistake was made. FCPS could hire a “data/records expert” at each school or pyramid. Advocate for change with processes and more positions to take burden of school staff who are over-worked and not experts in this area. Let educators focus on educating. Let principals focus on admin. There are several processes where errors could happen. Special education teachers have to email or print a PDF document of IEP progress reports every quarter. Do you know how much STRESS staff have over this? Do you know how easy it is to make a mistake and send the wrong document to the wrong parent? Not all parents use sis parent vue so we have to email or print and send home. It is easy to make a mistake. Please have some grace for SCHOOL staff. Take your anger out on FCPS central office who develops processes and determines positions. Take your anger out on Callie who acted viciously and unethically and thinks she is “entitled” because “her child’s rights are violated.” Do not make statements like “FCPS doesn’t care”. That is not true. This is another stain that makes it harder for school staff to have positive relationships with families, and leads to professionals not wanting to work for FCPS or with these special parents/advocates. I wish these advocates and parents would conduct themselves professionally and ethically.

FCPS is a $3B operation yet run like a corner store. For all the money it receives it should be managed much better. Zero sympathy for people who can’t do their jobs and then blame others for their mistakes.

Understood. Agree. You miss the point. Do not blame the SCHOOL staff (teachers, front office, principle) for CENTRAL OFFICE mistakes, policies, or processes. The SCHOOL STAFF are the ones who have to deal with families and help your children. This makes it harder. I assure you that the SCHOOL STAFF do care! Very much! And the staff that I have worked with at multiple schools is wonderful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Nope. FCPS didn't "willingly" hand it over--it was accidental. And made more likely to happen by the endless badgering for information by Callie in an already stressed public school system. The real crime is that Callie "willingly" shared that information with others and published it online.
Unintentional leaks don't allow you to do whatever you want with the goods. We can sue Callie who intentionally acted wrongly with information AND we can lobby for better privacy protection. I think it's incredibly important to punish her and to deter people who think they can act with impunity with data that doesn't belong to them because they have some cause they are invested in.

It seems you don’t care that FCPS has no process to ensure this doesn’t happen. I don’t know Callie, but at least she scrubbed the data. What happens next time when a nefarious character doesn’t? Then what? What if it’s your kids’s personal non-scrubbed data out there that is used against them in the future. Then will you still feel like it’s not the school’s job? That they’re stressed and it’s a mistake? BS. FCPS has the responsibility to protect data, by state and federal laws. They have failed multiple times and do nothing to change it. And here you are making excuses they’re busy or stressed. What’s next? Blame the kids for having personal information?

“At least she scrubbed the data?” The woman is sick. I don’t want her to have my kid’s data.

[Anonymous]

Sue whoever you want but until you deal with the bigger issues within the school system the problem will keep happening. Have you asked FCPS how many people in the district have open access to your child’s files at the moment? Have you asked FCPS why the files weren’t password protected so if they were accidentally released they couldn’t be opened? Do you know what steps FCPS has taken to better secure data and prevent your private information from being released to other members of the public? Have you filed formal complaints with the state? Have you spoken to the principal and demanded password protection on your child’s files?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Is not accurate. FCPS staff do very much care about privacy of educational records. A mistake was made. FCPS could hire a “data/records expert” at each school or pyramid. Advocate for change with processes and more positions to take burden of school staff who are over-worked and not experts in this area. Let educators focus on educating. Let principals focus on admin. There are several processes where errors could happen. Special education teachers have to email or print a PDF document of IEP progress reports every quarter. Do you know how much STRESS staff have over this? Do you know how easy it is to make a mistake and send the wrong document to the wrong parent? Not all parents use sis parent vue so we have to email or print and send home. It is easy to make a mistake. Please have some grace for SCHOOL staff. Take your anger out on FCPS central office who develops processes and determines positions. Take your anger out on Callie who acted viciously and unethically and thinks she is “entitled” because “her child’s rights are violated.” Do not make statements like “FCPS doesn’t care”. That is not true. This is another stain that makes it harder for school staff to have positive relationships with families, and leads to professionals not wanting to work for FCPS or with these special parents/advocates. I wish these advocates and parents would conduct themselves professionally and ethically.

FCPS is a $3B operation yet run like a corner store. For all the money it receives it should be managed much better. Zero sympathy for people who can’t do their jobs and then blame others for their mistakes.

Umm. Both are culpable as has been stated multiple times. FCPS IT is woeful. Callie is worse — she clearly doesn’t care the system is broken and purposely made the problem bigger by publishing the data. Sad that she doesn’t see her part in this mess. She is not a white hat.

If your house got broken into many times by the same burglar because your front door doesn’t lock, at what point do you install a lock instead of blaming the burglar for continuing to walk in and lamenting how dare them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Is not accurate. FCPS staff do very much care about privacy of educational records. A mistake was made. FCPS could hire a “data/records expert” at each school or pyramid. Advocate for change with processes and more positions to take burden of school staff who are over-worked and not experts in this area. Let educators focus on educating. Let principals focus on admin. There are several processes where errors could happen. Special education teachers have to email or print a PDF document of IEP progress reports every quarter. Do you know how much STRESS staff have over this? Do you know how easy it is to make a mistake and send the wrong document to the wrong parent? Not all parents use sis parent vue so we have to email or print and send home. It is easy to make a mistake. Please have some grace for SCHOOL staff. Take your anger out on FCPS central office who develops processes and determines positions. Take your anger out on Callie who acted viciously and unethically and thinks she is “entitled” because “her child’s rights are violated.” Do not make statements like “FCPS doesn’t care”. That is not true. This is another stain that makes it harder for school staff to have positive relationships with families, and leads to professionals not wanting to work for FCPS or with these special parents/advocates. I wish these advocates and parents would conduct themselves professionally and ethically.

FCPS is a $3B operation yet run like a corner store. For all the money it receives it should be managed much better. Zero sympathy for people who can’t do their jobs and then blame others for their mistakes.

Umm. Both are culpable as has been stated multiple times. FCPS IT is woeful. Callie is worse — she clearly doesn’t care the system is broken and purposely made the problem bigger by publishing the data. Sad that she doesn’t see her part in this mess. She is not a white hat.

Obviously she cares that the system is broken. You just disagree with her on what it is going to take to get the incompetent people at FCPS to fix it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Nope. FCPS didn't "willingly" hand it over--it was accidental. And made more likely to happen by the endless badgering for information by Callie in an already stressed public school system. The real crime is that Callie "willingly" shared that information with others and published it online.
Unintentional leaks don't allow you to do whatever you want with the goods. We can sue Callie who intentionally acted wrongly with information AND we can lobby for better privacy protection. I think it's incredibly important to punish her and to deter people who think they can act with impunity with data that doesn't belong to them because they have some cause they are invested in.

It seems you don’t care that FCPS has no process to ensure this doesn’t happen. I don’t know Callie, but at least she scrubbed the data. What happens next time when a nefarious character doesn’t? Then what? What if it’s your kids’s personal non-scrubbed data out there that is used against them in the future. Then will you still feel like it’s not the school’s job? That they’re stressed and it’s a mistake? BS. FCPS has the responsibility to protect data, by state and federal laws. They have failed multiple times and do nothing to change it. And here you are making excuses they’re busy or stressed. What’s next? Blame the kids for having personal information?

Did you not notice that I said "AND" lobby for better privacy protection. But I work with data in a government setting--I know there are data and privacy errors all the time and we have a huge budget to protect this because we work with healthcare data. We have so much more money and there are still tons of human errors. School systems have to share information--they have to share IEP records, they have to share accommodations across teachers--to expect that they will never make mistakes is just unrealistic. Should there be more national level privacy data systems and strict protocol like they have in healthcare--yes, and people are working on that.

But only one person willingly acted wrongly with information and that person needs to be punished. She didn't scrub the data--she shared it identified with others first who decided to scrub the data AND they collectively decided to post it publicly??? She gave others access to the private data of 35000 kids knowingly. How can you POSSIBLY be advocating for not going after her??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Is not accurate. FCPS staff do very much care about privacy of educational records. A mistake was made. FCPS could hire a “data/records expert” at each school or pyramid. Advocate for change with processes and more positions to take burden of school staff who are over-worked and not experts in this area. Let educators focus on educating. Let principals focus on admin. There are several processes where errors could happen. Special education teachers have to email or print a PDF document of IEP progress reports every quarter. Do you know how much STRESS staff have over this? Do you know how easy it is to make a mistake and send the wrong document to the wrong parent? Not all parents use sis parent vue so we have to email or print and send home. It is easy to make a mistake. Please have some grace for SCHOOL staff. Take your anger out on FCPS central office who develops processes and determines positions. Take your anger out on Callie who acted viciously and unethically and thinks she is “entitled” because “her child’s rights are violated.” Do not make statements like “FCPS doesn’t care”. That is not true. This is another stain that makes it harder for school staff to have positive relationships with families, and leads to professionals not wanting to work for FCPS or with these special parents/advocates. I wish these advocates and parents would conduct themselves professionally and ethically.

FCPS is a $3B operation yet run like a corner store. For all the money it receives it should be managed much better. Zero sympathy for people who can’t do their jobs and then blame others for their mistakes.

Umm. Both are culpable as has been stated multiple times. FCPS IT is woeful. Callie is worse — she clearly doesn’t care the system is broken and purposely made the problem bigger by publishing the data. Sad that she doesn’t see her part in this mess. She is not a white hat.

Obviously she cares that the system is broken. You just disagree with her on what it is going to take to get the incompetent people at FCPS to fix it.

This right here! She probably sees the only way to get attention is to actually have fcps get off their rearend and use some of their $3b budget on cyber security.

[Anonymous]

The Callie sympathizers don't seem to gather that two things can be true:

1) FCPS screwed up and their processes need to change, and
2) Callie is a vile human being who acted in selfish, dangerous ways and needs to be held accountable for her intentional choices.

Something needs to change on both ends. One side made a mistake, the other side acted nefariously.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s look at it this way. If someone breaks into Targets IT systems and steals the data, that’s a criminal act. If Target willingly hands it over, Target is the culpable party. If you sue Callie, she’ll file for bankruptcy, we get no benefit, and this stuff keeps happening. FCPS cares nothing about privacy of data. If they did, they would have spent the money on it last time this happened.

Nope. FCPS didn't "willingly" hand it over--it was accidental. And made more likely to happen by the endless badgering for information by Callie in an already stressed public school system. The real crime is that Callie "willingly" shared that information with others and published it online.
Unintentional leaks don't allow you to do whatever you want with the goods. We can sue Callie who intentionally acted wrongly with information AND we can lobby for better privacy protection. I think it's incredibly important to punish her and to deter people who think they can act with impunity with data that doesn't belong to them because they have some cause they are invested in.

It seems you don’t care that FCPS has no process to ensure this doesn’t happen. I don’t know Callie, but at least she scrubbed the data. What happens next time when a nefarious character doesn’t? Then what? What if it’s your kids’s personal non-scrubbed data out there that is used against them in the future. Then will you still feel like it’s not the school’s job? That they’re stressed and it’s a mistake? BS. FCPS has the responsibility to protect data, by state and federal laws. They have failed multiple times and do nothing to change it. And here you are making excuses they’re busy or stressed. What’s next? Blame the kids for having personal information?

Callie did not scrub the data. Look at the article - she shared the information with the press, and the press scrubbed the data. How many people did Callie share kids' unredacted personal information with? Has she securely deleted the data, and if not why not?