Boys Volleyball in FCPS

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Anonymous wrote:Boys already have football. What are you adding to balance volleyball for girls? Title IX is still a thing

+1. These parents and kids have been going to meeting after meeting about this with no comments about the Title IX issue.

I’m not familiar with Title IX but when looking at the list of fall sports, there are more girl sports than boy sports.

Number of sports isn't the issue, it's the number of slots and the funding. Football is both huge and expensive

Our football team has banners, private trainers who come onsite to do speed/agility, free meals, and a huge "tunnel" that only they get to use. It's ridiculous.

Meanwhile, we had out of state HS tournaments for our girls team and had to drive individually b/c we didn't have the budget for a bus.

In FCPS? You should talk to leadership. We have transportation for boys and girls teams. In fact, they got a bus so the football team could go to support the cheerleaders for a competition. Really nice to see them there to support the mostly female squad, who cheers for them every week.

Yep, in Fairfax. It's so Friday Night Lights and is so gross.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't these parents or better yet, the students themselves, create an adjacent but non-VHSL mens volleyball team in their schools?

We have several sports like that in our high school: dance team, ice hockey, rifle team... Heck, the kids started an ultimate frisbee team for our high school that plays against other high schools in the area.

Why not do the same with mens volleyball?

Or if you really want it to be a sanctioned sport, you need to start with VHSL. All the recognized sports in FCPS are governed by VHSL. If you want mens volleyball to be a sanctioned "official" FCPS sport, and not a student/parent run club sport, you probably need to start with VHSL.

Boys volleyball is already a VHSL sport and played in several places across the state, just not in FCPS.

Boys club volleyball also exists currently and is very popular in FCPS, but a bunch of kids would like to play for a school varsity team.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't these parents or better yet, the students themselves, create an adjacent but non-VHSL mens volleyball team in their schools?

We have several sports like that in our high school: dance team, ice hockey, rifle team... Heck, the kids started an ultimate frisbee team for our high school that plays against other high schools in the area.

Why not do the same with mens volleyball?

Or if you really want it to be a sanctioned sport, you need to start with VHSL. All the recognized sports in FCPS are governed by VHSL. If you want mens volleyball to be a sanctioned "official" FCPS sport, and not a student/parent run club sport, you probably need to start with VHSL.

Boys volleyball is already a VHSL sport and played in several places across the state, just not in FCPS.

Boys club volleyball also exists currently and is very popular in FCPS, but a bunch of kids would like to play for a school varsity team.

There is already a robust NoVA boys club volleyball program, with lots of unofficial club Volleyball HS teams. See: https://www.novaboysvb.org/case for more information.

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Anonymous wrote:Boys already have football. What are you adding to balance volleyball for girls? Title IX is still a thing

+1. These parents and kids have been going to meeting after meeting about this with no comments about the Title IX issue.

I’m not familiar with Title IX but when looking at the list of fall sports, there are more girl sports than boy sports.

Number of sports isn't the issue, it's the number of slots and the funding. Football is both huge and expensive

Fcps doesnt not fund sports. Hence various teams' fundraisers and Booster Club.

Some sports are absolutely funded. Others (rowing, dance) are not. I have no idea why some are chosen to be funded and others aren’t.

VHSL vs club sports.

Rowing and dance team, plus ice hockey, ultimate frisbee, rifle and a few others are club sports, which mean they are self funded.

It is a state level VHSL issue, not a FCPS issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Boys already have football. What are you adding to balance volleyball for girls? Title IX is still a thing

+1. These parents and kids have been going to meeting after meeting about this with no comments about the Title IX issue.

I’m not familiar with Title IX but when looking at the list of fall sports, there are more girl sports than boy sports.

Number of sports isn't the issue, it's the number of slots and the funding. Football is both huge and expensive

Our football team has banners, private trainers who come onsite to do speed/agility, free meals, and a huge "tunnel" that only they get to use. It's ridiculous.

Meanwhile, we had out of state HS tournaments for our girls team and had to drive individually b/c we didn't have the budget for a bus.

I suspect your school's football team has thousands of people in attendance, where the girls sport your kid might just break 100 people.

I attend football games because my kid is on one of the supporting performance groups at the home games.

Not only are there football parents in attendance paying admission, but there are marching band families (in the hundreds), choir families (a couple dozen), cheerleading families (a hundred or so), dance team families (around a hundred).

There are thousands of students in attendance, not just high school kids but tons of middle school kids and elementary kids.

They host events during the season for younger kids. For example, at pyramid night all the K-8th football players from local league run on the firled with the team, the choir sings the anthem with any interested K-8th grader in the feeder schools, the marching band invites the middle schoolers to join in the spirit band, and the dance team hosts a performance for interested elementary kids at half time. This event brings in easily a 1000 additional people paying admission, because little kid performances come in tow with siblings and grandparents.

At our weekly football games, there are alumni, teachers, young families without kids in high school looking for an easy, cheap, family friendly weekend event, and lots of old people and senior citizens trying to support the local school.

I am not a fan of football, but it is undeniable that high school football brings the most community members back into the school and makes them feel like part of the community. The only other events that even come close in outside community support and attendance are the big spring musicals and the homecoming parade. Basketball has a big audience, but it is mostly students and not as many community members. Track might be close due to the sheer number of kids involved, but I think that track has far fewer "community" members attending than football.

Those of you complaining about Friday night lights getting the most attention are forgetting or ignoring how well attended those games are and how much money they bring in to the school. I don't have sports kids so I am not privy to the booster financial records, but I would bet that the football ticket and concession revenue brings in far more, and perhaps many times more revenue for the sports booster clubs than all of the other sports combined. You would have to willfully ignore your own eyes not to see this.

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Anonymous wrote:Boys already have football. What are you adding to balance volleyball for girls? Title IX is still a thing

There is cheerleading and field hockey. Volleyball is the only coed sport where only girls can play. Volleyball is a boys sports elsewhere in the state and country.

Cheerleading is coed, as is dance team- we have had both sexes in diff years on each. This year I think only on dance.

So boys should also be able to play volleyball. Maybe also make it coed.

There is a safety issue with having boys play on the girls volleyball team that is not present with a dance performance or cheerleading.

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Anonymous wrote:Boys already have football. What are you adding to balance volleyball for girls? Title IX is still a thing

+1. These parents and kids have been going to meeting after meeting about this with no comments about the Title IX issue.

I’m not familiar with Title IX but when looking at the list of fall sports, there are more girl sports than boy sports.

Number of sports isn't the issue, it's the number of slots and the funding. Football is both huge and expensive

Our football team has banners, private trainers who come onsite to do speed/agility, free meals, and a huge "tunnel" that only they get to use. It's ridiculous.

Meanwhile, we had out of state HS tournaments for our girls team and had to drive individually b/c we didn't have the budget for a bus.

I suspect your school's football team has thousands of people in attendance, where the girls sport your kid might just break 100 people.

I attend football games because my kid is on one of the supporting performance groups at the home games.

Not only are there football parents in attendance paying admission, but there are marching band families (in the hundreds), choir families (a couple dozen), cheerleading families (a hundred or so), dance team families (around a hundred).

There are thousands of students in attendance, not just high school kids but tons of middle school kids and elementary kids.

They host events during the season for younger kids. For example, at pyramid night all the K-8th football players from local league run on the firled with the team, the choir sings the anthem with any interested K-8th grader in the feeder schools, the marching band invites the middle schoolers to join in the spirit band, and the dance team hosts a performance for interested elementary kids at half time. This event brings in easily a 1000 additional people paying admission, because little kid performances come in tow with siblings and grandparents.

At our weekly football games, there are alumni, teachers, young families without kids in high school looking for an easy, cheap, family friendly weekend event, and lots of old people and senior citizens trying to support the local school.

I am not a fan of football, but it is undeniable that high school football brings the most community members back into the school and makes them feel like part of the community. The only other events that even come close in outside community support and attendance are the big spring musicals and the homecoming parade. Basketball has a big audience, but it is mostly students and not as many community members. Track might be close due to the sheer number of kids involved, but I think that track has far fewer "community" members attending than football.

Those of you complaining about Friday night lights getting the most attention are forgetting or ignoring how well attended those games are and how much money they bring in to the school. I don't have sports kids so I am not privy to the booster financial records, but I would bet that the football ticket and concession revenue brings in far more, and perhaps many times more revenue for the sports booster clubs than all of the other sports combined. You would have to willfully ignore your own eyes not to see this.

To be fair, Friday night lights is also more than the football team. Ours also has the Marching Band, Cheerleaders, and Dance Team perform. Which brings in lots more supporters for those groups.

IfI wonder if other sports started also having the Marching Band, Cheerleaders and Dance Team perform - would those attendance numbers go up?

Let's be honest, football is the moneymaking sport at 99% of all schools and funds other programs. But given the large rosters across 3 teams, it also demands a lot of players.