Oxford University tops the Times' World University 2024 rankings

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Anonymous wrote:Oxford is overrated if we are being honest

Come on, a lot of us have worked with Oxford colleagues in consulting and finance on joint projects (uk placements and in the us) and American hypsm in American offices are LOT stronger

Im truly puzzled why Oxford is ranked so high



You're probably too provincial. The great thing about Oxford is it doesn't consider legacies or athletes in their admissions unlike hypsm. That is a distinctly American practice.



A foreigner who has worked with both. The Americans are much more impressive than the Oxbridge people.





Sorry, but that Doesn’t make you an expert on world ranking of universities



I don't know anything about global university rankings.

But personally, I am much more impressed with students coming out of elite schools in the US than anything elsewhere, including Cambridge and Oxford. I work with multilaterals and financial whatnot. So, come across these people all the time.

My experience has been the opposite. Sometimes you can tell who got in through the side doors for HYSM grads within 15 minutes.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is UVA


Another LOL. You people are funny this morning.


UVA is ranked outside of top 100. Ouch.


UVA is not known outside of VA and especially outside of US.



Hah! UVA is the top public feeder for Rhodes Scholars, next only to West Point. It’s number 8 after the Ivies and West Point, having 56 Rhodes Scholars to its name. A lot of UVA students are there now


We finally have the UVA's 'Rhodes Scholar' booster out of hibernation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Ridiculous. Where's St Andrews? Where's Northeastern. I call troll.


St Andrews is a small university. More like a UK version of Brown or Dartmouth in character and typology -- small size, more undergraduates than postgraduates, more rural location

THE rankings are basically about how much research gets put out by the school.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oxford is overrated if we are being honest

Come on, a lot of us have worked with Oxford colleagues in consulting and finance on joint projects (uk placements and in the us) and American hypsm in American offices are LOT stronger

Im truly puzzled why Oxford is ranked so high



This is obviously a list focused on research, not undergraduate education quality.


That doesn’t seem to be the case if you look at the methodology which includes teaching


But that’s just one of the components. At least three — research quality, citations and reputation — are related to research.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oxford is overrated if we are being honest

Come on, a lot of us have worked with Oxford colleagues in consulting and finance on joint projects (uk placements and in the us) and American hypsm in American offices are LOT stronger

Im truly puzzled why Oxford is ranked so high



This is obviously a list focused on research, not undergraduate education quality.


It considers teaching quality.
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Anonymous wrote:Americans generally like to think we are the best in the world at essentially everything, so good to see a world ranking


+1
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Anonymous wrote:Where is UVA


Another LOL. You people are funny this morning.


UVA is ranked outside of top 100. Ouch.


UVA is not known outside of VA and especially outside of US.



Hah! UVA is the top public feeder for Rhodes Scholars, next only to West Point. It’s number 8 after the Ivies and West Point, having 56 Rhodes Scholars to its name. A lot of UVA students are there now


You are late!!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where is UVA


Another LOL. You people are funny this morning.


UVA is ranked outside of top 100. Ouch.


UVA is not known outside of VA and especially outside of US.



Hah! UVA is the top public feeder for Rhodes Scholars, next only to West Point. It’s number 8 after the Ivies and West Point, having 56 Rhodes Scholars to its name. A lot of UVA students are there now


You are late!!


….even though the same large school has never had a graduate win a Nobel Prize. It’s also just average in STEM.
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Anonymous wrote:Americans generally like to think we are the best in the world at essentially everything, so good to see a world ranking


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No. I actually think the us is pretty crappy in most aspects

But Oxford grads are not movers and shakers in the world in relation to being “the number 1 school in the world”

PPE is their “thing” yet the best politics, ir scholarship DOES NOT come Oxford

Econ departments are much stronger in the us

Eth Zurich, mit, Princeton, etc are stronger in applied sciences

What areas are you seeing Oxford alums as “top tier” reflective of the rank of the school??


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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Americans generally like to think we are the best in the world at essentially everything, so good to see a world ranking


Pp here

No. I actually think the us is pretty crappy in most aspects

But Oxford grads are not movers and shakers in the world in relation to being “the number 1 school in the world”

PPE is their “thing” yet the best politics, ir scholarship DOES NOT come Oxford

Econ departments are much stronger in the us

Eth Zurich, mit, Princeton, etc are stronger in applied sciences

What areas are you seeing Oxford alums as “top tier” reflective of the rank of the school??





Just a random here but totally agree. You can criticize the US for all sorts of reasons, but the quality of universities is not one of them. All the best thinkers, researchers, and scientists come to the US. Oxford and Zurich are very fine schools but they are not rolling with MIT, Stanford, Caltech, Harvard, and Princeton when it comes to talent and cutting edge research. I would add a lot of other schools to that. I've been working globally for a long time. All the most impressive people I've met came out of American universities. They might not be American, but they definitely went to American universities.

An Oxford PPE degree is definitely a thing though. I'm impressed by that. Generally, when you meet a 25 year old with a PPE degree from Oxford you are shaking hands with a future prime minister from whatever country they're from. It's a very unique degree.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Americans generally like to think we are the best in the world at essentially everything, so good to see a world ranking


Pp here

No. I actually think the us is pretty crappy in most aspects

But Oxford grads are not movers and shakers in the world in relation to being “the number 1 school in the world”

PPE is their “thing” yet the best politics, ir scholarship DOES NOT come Oxford

Econ departments are much stronger in the us

Eth Zurich, mit, Princeton, etc are stronger in applied sciences

What areas are you seeing Oxford alums as “top tier” reflective of the rank of the school??




you have no idea what you are talking about
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Americans generally like to think we are the best in the world at essentially everything, so good to see a world ranking


Pp here

No. I actually think the us is pretty crappy in most aspects

But Oxford grads are not movers and shakers in the world in relation to being “the number 1 school in the world”

PPE is their “thing” yet the best politics, ir scholarship DOES NOT come Oxford

Econ departments are much stronger in the us

Eth Zurich, mit, Princeton, etc are stronger in applied sciences

What areas are you seeing Oxford alums as “top tier” reflective of the rank of the school??





Just a random here but totally agree. You can criticize the US for all sorts of reasons, but the quality of universities is not one of them. All the best thinkers, researchers, and scientists come to the US. Oxford and Zurich are very fine schools but they are not rolling with MIT, Stanford, Caltech, Harvard, and Princeton when it comes to talent and cutting edge research. I would add a lot of other schools to that. I've been working globally for a long time. All the most impressive people I've met came out of American universities. They might not be American, but they definitely went to American universities.

An Oxford PPE degree is definitely a thing though. I'm impressed by that. Generally, when you meet a 25 year old with a PPE degree from Oxford you are shaking hands with a future prime minister from whatever country they're from. It's a very unique degree.



All I was at oxford this summer. You clearly don't have any idea what you are talking about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where is UVA


Another LOL. You people are funny this morning.


UVA is ranked outside of top 100. Ouch.


UVA is not known outside of VA and especially outside of US.



Hah! UVA is the top public feeder for Rhodes Scholars, next only to West Point. It’s number 8 after the Ivies and West Point, having 56 Rhodes Scholars to its name. A lot of UVA students are there now


You are late!!


….even though the same large school has never had a graduate win a Nobel Prize. It’s also just average in STEM.



Irrelevant to the Rhodes. You keep bringing up the faculty Nobel but no one cares. Have you not noticed no one responds to your posts? It isn't a great example. I suspect rather that you, your kid or a loved one didn't get in. My own DC didn't have even the record to apply. But I am proud to support a great institution in the commonwealth with my taxes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where is UVA


Another LOL. You people are funny this morning.


UVA is ranked outside of top 100. Ouch.


UVA is not known outside of VA and especially outside of US.



Hah! UVA is the top public feeder for Rhodes Scholars, next only to West Point. It’s number 8 after the Ivies and West Point, having 56 Rhodes Scholars to its name. A lot of UVA students are there now


You are late!!


….even though the same large school has never had a graduate win a Nobel Prize. It’s also just average in STEM.



Irrelevant to the Rhodes. You keep bringing up the faculty Nobel but no one cares. Have you not noticed no one responds to your posts? It isn't a great example. I suspect rather that you, your kid or a loved one didn't get in. My own DC didn't have even the record to apply. But I am proud to support a great institution in the commonwealth with my taxes.


I was referring to anyone who had graduated from UVA who went on to become a Nobel Prize winner. Rhodes scholarships are cute, but Nobel Prizes are what what bring the most attention to top schools. That’s where UVA is a complete no show.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where is UVA


Another LOL. You people are funny this morning.


UVA is ranked outside of top 100. Ouch.


UVA is not known outside of VA and especially outside of US.



Hah! UVA is the top public feeder for Rhodes Scholars, next only to West Point. It’s number 8 after the Ivies and West Point, having 56 Rhodes Scholars to its name. A lot of UVA students are there now


You are late!!


….even though the same large school has never had a graduate win a Nobel Prize. It’s also just average in STEM.



Irrelevant to the Rhodes. You keep bringing up the faculty Nobel but no one cares. Have you not noticed no one responds to your posts? It isn't a great example. I suspect rather that you, your kid or a loved one didn't get in. My own DC didn't have even the record to apply. But I am proud to support a great institution in the commonwealth with my taxes.


I was referring to anyone who had graduated from UVA who went on to become a Nobel Prize winner. Rhodes scholarships are cute, but Nobel Prizes are what what bring the most attention to top schools. That’s where UVA is a complete no show.


If we’re discussing top rated world universities at the Times, why is UVA even included in his discussion?
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