Is 9/11 different since COVID and/or the 20th?

[Anonymous]

I was going to ask this, but noticed we already have a thread it seems like no one cares anymore.

[Anonymous]

The Radio show only talked about for a minute

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Anonymous wrote:It normally is a very emotional day for me. But I’m too exhausted (sick with covid actually) to think much about it this year. Guess we have a new national trauma.

What is the new national trauma? Covid??? Get real.

Yes. COVID. It changed us as people and as a world. Have you forgotten already?

No, I, like most of everyone else, have moved on. You Covidians go on telling everyone else the sky is falling while wearing your completely useless masks with your 6+ boosters. You’re still going to get covid and in all likelihood it will be a bad cold if that.

You can move on and still acknowledge the significant impact on the US.

Yes, but the PP would have you believe we are still living through the trauma like it was March 2020.

Huh? Saying covid was a national trauma isn’t saying that we are still living through it.

You seem very triggered by the subject. Did you lose someone.

[Anonymous]

9/11 changed as soon as they used it to falsely justify a war. That was well before 2020....

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Anonymous wrote:9/11 changed as soon as they used it to falsely justify a war. That was well before 2020....

Yeah, I mean I have mixed feelings about the whole thing, bc for as sad as the losses in 9/11 were and as traumatic as the immediate aftermath was when we were still dealing with uncertainty, how many more lives were lost to the resulting, ultimately senseless war? I think it’s great that we honor the people who sacrifice in order to bring the city back onto its feet, and there were many touching examples of this. I do think it’s a little weird how people say “never forget” though. Never forget what? Of course anyone who was alive and old enough to remember, will. “Never forget” makes it sound like there’s some sort of lesson to be learned from this, which I’m not sure there was. Maybe that we needed better national security? Idk.

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Anonymous wrote:9/11 changed as soon as they used it to falsely justify a war. That was well before 2020....

Agree with this too.

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Anonymous wrote:I was going to ask this, but noticed we already have a thread it seems like no one cares anymore.

What are we supposed to do to demonstrate we care. Does the whole world need to stop and just replay the news from that day? I mean yeah it was awful. I say to myself “that was awful” what more is necessary. Tv and social media are not really the best measure of what people truly care about.

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Anonymous wrote:I noticed the same thing. There are shows on tv today but not nearly as many as in past years. One of our ds has spirit week this week and today's dress out of uniform is to dress patriotic and they are doing a memorial service at school.

As we do every year we will watch and discuss with our kids. The events were impactful in my dh and I's lives and we want to make sure our kids don't forget what happened. As others have said, we are so sad at the state of our nation and miss the American spirit that was present in the days right after 9/11.

I mostly remember the hate directed towards Muslims and the useless wars that followed in the aftermath of 9/11.

Part of that was the Muslim community never spoke out immediately and forcefully condemning the actions that took place in 9/11. PR wise was a terrible decision. In addition, they should have volunteered or donated to 9-11 causes.

In addition some Muslim counties in actual school text books had 9/11 never happened. WTC was a hologram and names of people died were govt employees who were put in a sort of witness protection and issued new identities. There were tons of websites with this propaganda.

This is nonsense. Why should they feel like they have anything to do with some loons who decided to hijack planes.

And can I add it's really rich to say this considering that today you can't even get half the country and a major politcal party to acknowledge that Jan.6 was anything other than some tourists taking a walk. And the acknowledgement of the officers whose lives were affect on that day, whether they died that day or suffer from PTSD and are still living with the pain. I'm waiting for their monument for saving the American democracy.

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Anonymous wrote:I noticed the same thing. There are shows on tv today but not nearly as many as in past years. One of our ds has spirit week this week and today's dress out of uniform is to dress patriotic and they are doing a memorial service at school.

As we do every year we will watch and discuss with our kids. The events were impactful in my dh and I's lives and we want to make sure our kids don't forget what happened. As others have said, we are so sad at the state of our nation and miss the American spirit that was present in the days right after 9/11.

I mostly remember the hate directed towards Muslims and the useless wars that followed in the aftermath of 9/11.

Part of that was the Muslim community never spoke out immediately and forcefully condemning the actions that took place in 9/11. PR wise was a terrible decision. In addition, they should have volunteered or donated to 9-11 causes.

In addition some Muslim counties in actual school text books had 9/11 never happened. WTC was a hologram and names of people died were govt employees who were put in a sort of witness protection and issued new identities. There were tons of websites with this propaganda.

This is nonsense. Why should they feel like they have anything to do with some loons who decided to hijack planes.

And can I add it's really rich to say this considering that today you can't even get half the country and a major politcal party to acknowledge that Jan.6 was anything other than some tourists taking a walk. And the acknowledgement of the officers whose lives were affect on that day, whether they died that day or suffer from PTSD and are still living with the pain. I'm waiting for their monument for saving the American democracy.

Nah, you’ll never get a law enforcement monument - it was defunded.

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Anonymous wrote:I noticed the same thing. There are shows on tv today but not nearly as many as in past years. One of our ds has spirit week this week and today's dress out of uniform is to dress patriotic and they are doing a memorial service at school.

As we do every year we will watch and discuss with our kids. The events were impactful in my dh and I's lives and we want to make sure our kids don't forget what happened. As others have said, we are so sad at the state of our nation and miss the American spirit that was present in the days right after 9/11.

I mostly remember the hate directed towards Muslims and the useless wars that followed in the aftermath of 9/11.

Part of that was the Muslim community never spoke out immediately and forcefully condemning the actions that took place in 9/11. PR wise was a terrible decision. In addition, they should have volunteered or donated to 9-11 causes.

In addition some Muslim counties in actual school text books had 9/11 never happened. WTC was a hologram and names of people died were govt employees who were put in a sort of witness protection and issued new identities. There were tons of websites with this propaganda.

This is nonsense. Why should they feel like they have anything to do with some loons who decided to hijack planes.

And can I add it's really rich to say this considering that today you can't even get half the country and a major politcal party to acknowledge that Jan.6 was anything other than some tourists taking a walk. And the acknowledgement of the officers whose lives were affect on that day, whether they died that day or suffer from PTSD and are still living with the pain. I'm waiting for their monument for saving the American democracy.

I distinctly recall footage all across the middle east of people cheering the twin towers coming down. While I do not agree with any type of retaliation against Muslims, I don’t exactly recall wanting to be lectures by anyone about being sensitive to their feelings at the time.

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It's been 22 years. I am STILL sad about it - being in finance, in NYC etc. - but I do understand the reality that it's been 22 years and a huge % of the population here now wasn't even alive then, another huge % of the population alive and in the workplace now was barely in grade school then. So reality is for them it's just another thing they read in a history book. So of course the event gets "diluted" as time goes by. Same way that Pearl Harbor isn't a big deal to those of us who weren't around then - we learned about it in history class.

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Anonymous wrote:I noticed the same thing. There are shows on tv today but not nearly as many as in past years. One of our ds has spirit week this week and today's dress out of uniform is to dress patriotic and they are doing a memorial service at school.

As we do every year we will watch and discuss with our kids. The events were impactful in my dh and I's lives and we want to make sure our kids don't forget what happened. As others have said, we are so sad at the state of our nation and miss the American spirit that was present in the days right after 9/11.

I mostly remember the hate directed towards Muslims and the useless wars that followed in the aftermath of 9/11.

Part of that was the Muslim community never spoke out immediately and forcefully condemning the actions that took place in 9/11. PR wise was a terrible decision. In addition, they should have volunteered or donated to 9-11 causes.

In addition some Muslim counties in actual school text books had 9/11 never happened. WTC was a hologram and names of people died were govt employees who were put in a sort of witness protection and issued new identities. There were tons of websites with this propaganda.

This is nonsense. Why should they feel like they have anything to do with some loons who decided to hijack planes.

And can I add it's really rich to say this considering that today you can't even get half the country and a major politcal party to acknowledge that Jan.6 was anything other than some tourists taking a walk. And the acknowledgement of the officers whose lives were affect on that day, whether they died that day or suffer from PTSD and are still living with the pain. I'm waiting for their monument for saving the American democracy.

I distinctly recall footage all across the middle east of people cheering the twin towers coming down. While I do not agree with any type of retaliation against Muslims, I don’t exactly recall wanting to be lectures by anyone about being sensitive to their feelings at the time.

I will never forgive Palestinians for celebrating and burning American flags after the attacks. Ever.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I noticed the same thing. There are shows on tv today but not nearly as many as in past years. One of our ds has spirit week this week and today's dress out of uniform is to dress patriotic and they are doing a memorial service at school.

As we do every year we will watch and discuss with our kids. The events were impactful in my dh and I's lives and we want to make sure our kids don't forget what happened. As others have said, we are so sad at the state of our nation and miss the American spirit that was present in the days right after 9/11.

I mostly remember the hate directed towards Muslims and the useless wars that followed in the aftermath of 9/11.

Part of that was the Muslim community never spoke out immediately and forcefully condemning the actions that took place in 9/11. PR wise was a terrible decision. In addition, they should have volunteered or donated to 9-11 causes.

In addition some Muslim counties in actual school text books had 9/11 never happened. WTC was a hologram and names of people died were govt employees who were put in a sort of witness protection and issued new identities. There were tons of websites with this propaganda.

This is nonsense. Why should they feel like they have anything to do with some loons who decided to hijack planes.

And can I add it's really rich to say this considering that today you can't even get half the country and a major politcal party to acknowledge that Jan.6 was anything other than some tourists taking a walk. And the acknowledgement of the officers whose lives were affect on that day, whether they died that day or suffer from PTSD and are still living with the pain. I'm waiting for their monument for saving the American democracy.

Nah, you’ll never get a law enforcement monument - it was defunded.

Sure was defunded in this case by the part for law and order.

[Anonymous]

*party

[Anonymous]

Muslim here - sorry you were offended by people celebrating, us normal ones were too. But we had no control over them. And let's be real us normal ones weren't going to speak out - bc we were not trying to draw the attention of white folks who suddenly saw ALL of us at the enemy. Frankly we were just trying to get thru the day to day of having people glare at us when we had to go to the grocery store or when we were at the dr's office and the nurse calls out Mohammed and that's you and now everyone is watching you walk in wondering if you're a terrorist.

If I'm being even more real most of us were trying to keep our heads down and hold onto our jobs and not get race discriminated out as the economy got shaky then too - at least in my industry in finance.