PSA about Dartmouth

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did you not get enough attention bragging to your friends about your kid's ivy acceptance so need to seek out some strangers? Everyone already knows this is a good school.

Never heard of it

NP that isn’t the flex you think it is. It kind of makes you look dumb when you say it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you not get enough attention bragging to your friends about your kid's ivy acceptance so need to seek out some strangers? Everyone already knows this is a good school.

NP-- such a mean response. Let the poster enjoy a little afterglow instead of getting your claws out and snarking.

I am just so tired of parents trying to flex on this. I think we would all agree that for every kid admitted, there are many more that were on paper qualified and would do well at these schools.

I am tired of your overuse of the word " flex". Maybe if you had gone to a place like Dartmouth you would have a larger vocabulary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did you not get enough attention bragging to your friends about your kid's ivy acceptance so need to seek out some strangers? Everyone already knows this is a good school.

That sounds like a totally appropriate comment and not one written by a pathetic loser who can't feel happy for other people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:HYP all have terrible football teams. I see college gear mostly on Fridays and Saturdays during the fall here. Lots of Michigan, Georgia, Alabama, ect. People are flexing based on the football program and not the quality of school. I find your observation hilarious.
During the rest of the year, HYP people wear their shirts and hats about as often as other schools of comparable size.
During basketball season, you'll see a lot more Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and Georgetown stuff in DC too!

As a HYP graduate, You have to worry about not flexing but also not not flexing- like hiding the information because you think It’s so great they can’t handle it.

Not to throw P under the bus too much since it is an amazing school but it isn't as impressive to most people. Would they even be able to tell you Princeton's colors or anything?
I wouldn't worry about "flexing" Princeton in the same way as HYS. It is more like any other Ivy when "flexing." Many will know but the general population wouldn't be at all annoyed.

it's the bottom-tier Ivy booster again.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an interesting read.

https://www.koppelmangroup.com/blog/2018/3/14/schools-similar-to-dartmouth

That article is interesting. A lot of LACs on the list. I've heard the Vandy comparison before too.
The social scene and Hanover environment are good to know about. Unlike Penn or Brown or Vandy, you don't many off-campus options. It is most like Williams to me in that regard.

Several years ago, I read this article a couple times. Used to have Case Western Reserve on the list as well, but apparently this school was removed after many disagreed.

Vanderbilt isn't really as similar to Dartmouth as the article suggests. Vanderbilt is much larger & it is located in a lively city--Nashville. The key to Dartmouth College is its rural, isolated location. (Vanderbilt is much more similar to Northwestern University, Duke, Emory, WashUStL, and Rice than it is to Dartmouth College.)

Dartmouth isn't really similar to Kenyon College either. The demographics at Kenyon have shifted to being very liberal & rural, isolated Kenyon College is tiny. The difference is that Dartmouth attracts more mainstream students and has a decent sized student body that enhances the rural, isolated location while Kenyon's tiny student body makes the rural, isolated location seem constricting. (Kenyon College is more similar to Grinnell College & Hamilton College.)

Dartmouth College is similar to Colgate & Middlebury & Bucknell & Colby.

A lot of misunderstanding here. Kenyon certainly has a lot of liberal students but every single one of these schools does, especially Dartmouth. In terms of wokeness (liberal to the point of dogmatism) Kenyon does a far better job avoiding it than most. https://reason.com/2019/05/02/10-colleges-where-you-wont-have-to-walk-on-eggshells/

In terms of size, Kenyon is basically the same size as the other LACs mentioned with some 1800 students. Dartmouth is compared to these LACs because it actually is pretty small for an Ivy with 4500.

Everyone single one of the schools mentioned above are basically in the middle of nowhere including Dartmouth but Kenyon is in fact an hour away from Columbus which has a population of nearly one million.

Culturally and geographically, all of these schools have a lot in common. Bizarre that you would think Hamilton and Colby are at different ends of any sort of spectrum. Hamilton in fact is often considered a very preppy school that has the sort of kids you imagine going to Dartmouth. But I think your perception of a typical Dartmouth student is dated. In general, your stereotypes are dated or just off.

You certainly encapsulated your post with your first 5 words.

Bizarre that you think that rural, isolated schools with just 1,800 students is the same as a school with 4,500 students.

Your scattered post suggests that you didn't take any time to think before writing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an interesting read.

https://www.koppelmangroup.com/blog/2018/3/14/schools-similar-to-dartmouth

That article is interesting. A lot of LACs on the list. I've heard the Vandy comparison before too.
The social scene and Hanover environment are good to know about. Unlike Penn or Brown or Vandy, you don't many off-campus options. It is most like Williams to me in that regard.

Several years ago, I read this article a couple times. Used to have Case Western Reserve on the list as well, but apparently this school was removed after many disagreed.

Vanderbilt isn't really as similar to Dartmouth as the article suggests. Vanderbilt is much larger & it is located in a lively city--Nashville. The key to Dartmouth College is its rural, isolated location. (Vanderbilt is much more similar to Northwestern University, Duke, Emory, WashUStL, and Rice than it is to Dartmouth College.)

Dartmouth isn't really similar to Kenyon College either. The demographics at Kenyon have shifted to being very liberal & rural, isolated Kenyon College is tiny. The difference is that Dartmouth attracts more mainstream students and has a decent sized student body that enhances the rural, isolated location while Kenyon's tiny student body makes the rural, isolated location seem constricting. (Kenyon College is more similar to Grinnell College & Hamilton College.)

Dartmouth College is similar to Colgate & Middlebury & Bucknell & Colby.

A lot of misunderstanding here. Kenyon certainly has a lot of liberal students but every single one of these schools does, especially Dartmouth. In terms of wokeness (liberal to the point of dogmatism) Kenyon does a far better job avoiding it than most. https://reason.com/2019/05/02/10-colleges-where-you-wont-have-to-walk-on-eggshells/

In terms of size, Kenyon is basically the same size as the other LACs mentioned with some 1800 students. Dartmouth is compared to these LACs because it actually is pretty small for an Ivy with 4500.

Everyone single one of the schools mentioned above are basically in the middle of nowhere including Dartmouth but Kenyon is in fact an hour away from Columbus which has a population of nearly one million.

Culturally and geographically, all of these schools have a lot in common. Bizarre that you would think Hamilton and Colby are at different ends of any sort of spectrum. Hamilton in fact is often considered a very preppy school that has the sort of kids you imagine going to Dartmouth. But I think your perception of a typical Dartmouth student is dated. In general, your stereotypes are dated or just off.

You certainly encapsulated your post with your first 5 words.

Bizarre that you think that rural, isolated schools with just 1,800 students is the same as a school with 4,500 students.

Your scattered post suggests that you didn't take any time to think before writing.

Dartmouth College is similar to Colgate & Middlebury & Bucknell & Colby.

These schools are all somewhat larger than Kenyon but significantly smaller than Dartmouth. They are all in quite isolated areas and near small towns. In any event I think the point of the article was to reveal characteristics of different schools that have perceived overlap with Dartmouth, not to argue the schools are carbon copies. As you note, some on the list are bigger, some are smaller.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an interesting read.

https://www.koppelmangroup.com/blog/2018/3/14/schools-similar-to-dartmouth

That article is interesting. A lot of LACs on the list. I've heard the Vandy comparison before too.
The social scene and Hanover environment are good to know about. Unlike Penn or Brown or Vandy, you don't many off-campus options. It is most like Williams to me in that regard.

Several years ago, I read this article a couple times. Used to have Case Western Reserve on the list as well, but apparently this school was removed after many disagreed.

Vanderbilt isn't really as similar to Dartmouth as the article suggests. Vanderbilt is much larger & it is located in a lively city--Nashville. The key to Dartmouth College is its rural, isolated location. (Vanderbilt is much more similar to Northwestern University, Duke, Emory, WashUStL, and Rice than it is to Dartmouth College.)

Dartmouth isn't really similar to Kenyon College either. The demographics at Kenyon have shifted to being very liberal & rural, isolated Kenyon College is tiny. The difference is that Dartmouth attracts more mainstream students and has a decent sized student body that enhances the rural, isolated location while Kenyon's tiny student body makes the rural, isolated location seem constricting. (Kenyon College is more similar to Grinnell College & Hamilton College.)

Dartmouth College is similar to Colgate & Middlebury & Bucknell & Colby.

A lot of misunderstanding here. Kenyon certainly has a lot of liberal students but every single one of these schools does, especially Dartmouth. In terms of wokeness (liberal to the point of dogmatism) Kenyon does a far better job avoiding it than most. https://reason.com/2019/05/02/10-colleges-where-you-wont-have-to-walk-on-eggshells/

In terms of size, Kenyon is basically the same size as the other LACs mentioned with some 1800 students. Dartmouth is compared to these LACs because it actually is pretty small for an Ivy with 4500.

Everyone single one of the schools mentioned above are basically in the middle of nowhere including Dartmouth but Kenyon is in fact an hour away from Columbus which has a population of nearly one million.

Culturally and geographically, all of these schools have a lot in common. Bizarre that you would think Hamilton and Colby are at different ends of any sort of spectrum. Hamilton in fact is often considered a very preppy school that has the sort of kids you imagine going to Dartmouth. But I think your perception of a typical Dartmouth student is dated. In general, your stereotypes are dated or just off.

You certainly encapsulated your post with your first 5 words.

Bizarre that you think that rural, isolated schools with just 1,800 students is the same as a school with 4,500 students.

Your scattered post suggests that you didn't take any time to think before writing.

Dartmouth College is similar to Colgate & Middlebury & Bucknell & Colby.

These schools are all somewhat larger than Kenyon but significantly smaller than Dartmouth. They are all in quite isolated areas and near small towns. In any event I think the point of the article was to reveal characteristics of different schools that have perceived overlap with Dartmouth, not to argue the schools are carbon copies. As you note, some on the list are bigger, some are smaller.

I am the poster who originally wrote the bolded.

Relatively speaking, Kenyon has a more liberal student body than does Dartmouth College.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HYP all have terrible football teams. I see college gear mostly on Fridays and Saturdays during the fall here. Lots of Michigan, Georgia, Alabama, ect. People are flexing based on the football program and not the quality of school. I find your observation hilarious.
During the rest of the year, HYP people wear their shirts and hats about as often as other schools of comparable size.
During basketball season, you'll see a lot more Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and Georgetown stuff in DC too!

As a HYP graduate, You have to worry about not flexing but also not not flexing- like hiding the information because you think It’s so great they can’t handle it.

Not to throw P under the bus too much since it is an amazing school but it isn't as impressive to most people. Would they even be able to tell you Princeton's colors or anything?
I wouldn't worry about "flexing" Princeton in the same way as HYS. It is more like any other Ivy when "flexing." Many will know but the general population wouldn't be at all annoyed.

It’s not P is considered less impressive, it just has a better image thanks to a generalized fondness towards tigers and the Cinderella story basketball stuff. Pretty sure more people can tell you Princeton colors than Harvard or Yale.

I don't buy that for a lot of the country and beyond. I grew up in a "flyover state" and had a classmate go to Princeton after getting into Harvard. Let's just say people had a very hard time believing and understanding the decision locally. You'd have thought he was choosing Directional State College over Harvard.
Studying abroad in Europe, there was also a clear difference in how friends from Yale and Princeton were received (no one commented on the Princeton shirts in the same way). I don't have kids, so it isn't like this was the 90s.

This feels like a bit of a stretch. Maybe it was before Princeton was ranked the top university in the country by US News for 12 years in a row - something that doesn’t go unnoticed in international circles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you not get enough attention bragging to your friends about your kid's ivy acceptance so need to seek out some strangers? Everyone already knows this is a good school.

NP-- such a mean response. Let the poster enjoy a little afterglow instead of getting your claws out and snarking.

I am just so tired of parents trying to flex on this. I think we would all agree that for every kid admitted, there are many more that were on paper qualified and would do well at these schools.

As an HYP grad, one problem of attending a super selective school is that you have to be more cautious of evincing school pride (because you look like a total a-hole) whereas families that are connected with slightly less prestigious schools (say Michigan) can run around proudly. This may be the only outlet where the mom above can flex without risking social repercussions.

This is true, but it's not right! I've often hesitated to wear my favorite Duke hat, but now that I've lost my hair to chemo, I definitely could care less. Everyone has the right to be proud of their alma mater.

Best of luck to you! Duke people in DC seem more than happy to advertise where they went to school. I was down in the Union Market area today and saw a lot of Duke stuff. Again, it could be linked to the fact that their nationally televised football game against Clemson is tonight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an interesting read.

https://www.koppelmangroup.com/blog/2018/3/14/schools-similar-to-dartmouth

That article is interesting. A lot of LACs on the list. I've heard the Vandy comparison before too.
The social scene and Hanover environment are good to know about. Unlike Penn or Brown or Vandy, you don't many off-campus options. It is most like Williams to me in that regard.

Several years ago, I read this article a couple times. Used to have Case Western Reserve on the list as well, but apparently this school was removed after many disagreed.

Vanderbilt isn't really as similar to Dartmouth as the article suggests. Vanderbilt is much larger & it is located in a lively city--Nashville. The key to Dartmouth College is its rural, isolated location. (Vanderbilt is much more similar to Northwestern University, Duke, Emory, WashUStL, and Rice than it is to Dartmouth College.)

Dartmouth isn't really similar to Kenyon College either. The demographics at Kenyon have shifted to being very liberal & rural, isolated Kenyon College is tiny. The difference is that Dartmouth attracts more mainstream students and has a decent sized student body that enhances the rural, isolated location while Kenyon's tiny student body makes the rural, isolated location seem constricting. (Kenyon College is more similar to Grinnell College & Hamilton College.)

Dartmouth College is similar to Colgate & Middlebury & Bucknell & Colby.

A lot of misunderstanding here. Kenyon certainly has a lot of liberal students but every single one of these schools does, especially Dartmouth. In terms of wokeness (liberal to the point of dogmatism) Kenyon does a far better job avoiding it than most. https://reason.com/2019/05/02/10-colleges-where-you-wont-have-to-walk-on-eggshells/

In terms of size, Kenyon is basically the same size as the other LACs mentioned with some 1800 students. Dartmouth is compared to these LACs because it actually is pretty small for an Ivy with 4500.

Everyone single one of the schools mentioned above are basically in the middle of nowhere including Dartmouth but Kenyon is in fact an hour away from Columbus which has a population of nearly one million.

Culturally and geographically, all of these schools have a lot in common. Bizarre that you would think Hamilton and Colby are at different ends of any sort of spectrum. Hamilton in fact is often considered a very preppy school that has the sort of kids you imagine going to Dartmouth. But I think your perception of a typical Dartmouth student is dated. In general, your stereotypes are dated or just off.

You certainly encapsulated your post with your first 5 words.

Bizarre that you think that rural, isolated schools with just 1,800 students is the same as a school with 4,500 students.

Your scattered post suggests that you didn't take any time to think before writing.

Dartmouth College is similar to Colgate & Middlebury & Bucknell & Colby.

These schools are all somewhat larger than Kenyon but significantly smaller than Dartmouth. They are all in quite isolated areas and near small towns. In any event I think the point of the article was to reveal characteristics of different schools that have perceived overlap with Dartmouth, not to argue the schools are carbon copies. As you note, some on the list are bigger, some are smaller.

I am the poster who originally wrote the bolded.

Relatively speaking, Kenyon has a more liberal student body than does Dartmouth College.

As I said, this is a dated stereotype of Dartmouth (based probably on Dartmouth Review back in the 80s). https://www.thecollegefix.com/eight-percent-of-recent-dartmouth-grads-are-conservative-survey-finds/

Dartmouth isn’t Oberlin but it has become like most other schools. Bucknell and Colgate may still veer a little conservative but I’ve been hearing anecdotes with respect to Colgate to the contrary. Colby and Midd are in no sense conservative now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HYP all have terrible football teams. I see college gear mostly on Fridays and Saturdays during the fall here. Lots of Michigan, Georgia, Alabama, ect. People are flexing based on the football program and not the quality of school. I find your observation hilarious.
During the rest of the year, HYP people wear their shirts and hats about as often as other schools of comparable size.
During basketball season, you'll see a lot more Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and Georgetown stuff in DC too!

As a HYP graduate, You have to worry about not flexing but also not not flexing- like hiding the information because you think It’s so great they can’t handle it.

Not to throw P under the bus too much since it is an amazing school but it isn't as impressive to most people. Would they even be able to tell you Princeton's colors or anything?
I wouldn't worry about "flexing" Princeton in the same way as HYS. It is more like any other Ivy when "flexing." Many will know but the general population wouldn't be at all annoyed.

It’s not P is considered less impressive, it just has a better image thanks to a generalized fondness towards tigers and the Cinderella story basketball stuff. Pretty sure more people can tell you Princeton colors than Harvard or Yale.

I don't buy that for a lot of the country and beyond. I grew up in a "flyover state" and had a classmate go to Princeton after getting into Harvard. Let's just say people had a very hard time believing and understanding the decision locally. You'd have thought he was choosing Directional State College over Harvard.
Studying abroad in Europe, there was also a clear difference in how friends from Yale and Princeton were received (no one commented on the Princeton shirts in the same way). I don't have kids, so it isn't like this was the 90s.

This feels like a bit of a stretch. Maybe it was before Princeton was ranked the top university in the country by US News for 12 years in a row - something that doesn’t go unnoticed in international circles.

The undergrad USNWR ranking we care about so much isn't as relevant abroad. Unless people are looking to go to undergrad here, they are not as aware of that annual ranking. They know US colleges accept limited numbers of international students for undergrad. They are more interested in the grad rankings for the programs they are looking for and Princeton doesn't do as well there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HYP all have terrible football teams. I see college gear mostly on Fridays and Saturdays during the fall here. Lots of Michigan, Georgia, Alabama, ect. People are flexing based on the football program and not the quality of school. I find your observation hilarious.
During the rest of the year, HYP people wear their shirts and hats about as often as other schools of comparable size.
During basketball season, you'll see a lot more Duke, Kentucky, Kansas and Georgetown stuff in DC too!

As a HYP graduate, You have to worry about not flexing but also not not flexing- like hiding the information because you think It’s so great they can’t handle it.

Not to throw P under the bus too much since it is an amazing school but it isn't as impressive to most people. Would they even be able to tell you Princeton's colors or anything?
I wouldn't worry about "flexing" Princeton in the same way as HYS. It is more like any other Ivy when "flexing." Many will know but the general population wouldn't be at all annoyed.

It’s not P is considered less impressive, it just has a better image thanks to a generalized fondness towards tigers and the Cinderella story basketball stuff. Pretty sure more people can tell you Princeton colors than Harvard or Yale.

I don't buy that for a lot of the country and beyond. I grew up in a "flyover state" and had a classmate go to Princeton after getting into Harvard. Let's just say people had a very hard time believing and understanding the decision locally. You'd have thought he was choosing Directional State College over Harvard.
Studying abroad in Europe, there was also a clear difference in how friends from Yale and Princeton were received (no one commented on the Princeton shirts in the same way). I don't have kids, so it isn't like this was the 90s.

This feels like a bit of a stretch. Maybe it was before Princeton was ranked the top university in the country by US News for 12 years in a row - something that doesn’t go unnoticed in international circles.

The undergrad USNWR ranking we care about so much isn't as relevant abroad. Unless people are looking to go to undergrad here, they are not as aware of that annual ranking. They know US colleges accept limited numbers of international students for undergrad. They are more interested in the grad rankings for the programs they are looking for and Princeton doesn't do as well there.

Yeah a Princeton PhD is worthless. 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you not get enough attention bragging to your friends about your kid's ivy acceptance so need to seek out some strangers? Everyone already knows this is a good school.

NP-- such a mean response. Let the poster enjoy a little afterglow instead of getting your claws out and snarking.

I am just so tired of parents trying to flex on this. I think we would all agree that for every kid admitted, there are many more that were on paper qualified and would do well at these schools.

As an HYP grad, one problem of attending a super selective school is that you have to be more cautious of evincing school pride (because you look like a total a-hole) whereas families that are connected with slightly less prestigious schools (say Michigan) can run around proudly. This may be the only outlet where the mom above can flex without risking social repercussions.

This is true, but it's not right! I've often hesitated to wear my favorite Duke hat, but now that I've lost my hair to chemo, I definitely could care less. Everyone has the right to be proud of their alma mater.

Best of luck to you! Duke people in DC seem more than happy to advertise where they went to school. I was down in the Union Market area today and saw a lot of Duke stuff. Again, it could be linked to the fact that their nationally televised football game against Clemson is tonight.

Thank you xo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PSA: It's a woefully overrated school that simply will not be a good experience for POC who aren't extremely skilled at code switching and playing white.

+100.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PSA: It's a woefully overrated school that simply will not be a good experience for POC who aren't extremely skilled at code switching and playing white.

+100.

For those of you who believe in white supremacy culture or whatever, why do you think a POC should attend a top school in the country but emerge without the ability to interact with said culture? Serious question.