No math senior year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stats is not considered a serious math by most US colleges. 12th graders should at the very least be taking AP Calc AB.

I have a non-math kid and I was told this by a reputable college counselor.

One of my kids took AP Calc as a junior. They aren’t interested in a career that uses higher math. They are interested in a career that uses statistics and they are taking it as a college course this semester.

Yeah, funnily enough I wasn't focused on you or your kid, but the OP's question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPS forces everyone to take a math every year and it honestly sucks. My DD is taking Alg 2 in 9th and has no desire to keep leaning Calculus she will never use another minute in her life. It would be different if she was going for science/engineering/computers/med, etc... but she isn't. The math options suck and to force the kids to keep taking it instead of other more interesting courses stink.

Its the State of MD not MCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stats is not considered a serious math by most US colleges. 12th graders should at the very least be taking AP Calc AB.

I have a non-math kid and I was told this by a reputable college counselor.

Not true.

UMichigan, a highly ranked school, for example, calls out Calculus only for Engineering applications, not even for Science.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/requirements-deadlines

Furthermore, UMichigan non-Engineering Science-Arts gives more credit for a 5 in AP Stats than for a 5 in AP Calc AB. Only the Engineering schools gives additional credit for calculus.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/ap-ib-credit/ap-guidelines

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's the question! Does it or does it not count in MCPS? Has anyone talked to their school or has someone used a CS course as a substitute for an MAT course?

My kid is a math kid so doesn’t need it to count. But if I wanted it to, I would bring the state document cited above to the guidance counselor and ask for a response in writing in whether it counts. If MCPS Aays no, I would reach out to the state to see what can be done.

According to the FAQ, a CS course would not meet the requirement if it is taken the final year before graduation. (It is not engaging students in algebraic skills the year prior to college enrollment.)

The FAQ also says that 15% class is granted an exemption from the "CS doesn't count in senior year" rule.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If DD took Algebra 1 in 8th, Honors Geography in 9th, Honors Algebra 2 in 10th, and Honors Precalculus in 11th, does she need another math in 12th? Does the math in 8th count toward her 4 years of HS credits? Will colleges that require 4 years of math (UMD) dismiss a kid who doesn’t take math in 12th?

She hates math.

I'm sorry. But your daughter messed up. They need to roll with math all four years. If it's not too late, get her into Calculus AB now.

I should have specified that she’s a riding Junior taking precalculus this year. So I guess next year she’ll need to decide between calculus and stats. Any advice on that choice?

HS teacher here. Financial Mathematics (revamped Quantitative Literacy) would be a good choice. Or Introduction to Statistics.

MCPS teachers, can you ask admin to delete all the out of date garbage from the website?

(And also to post daily/weekly announcements on the school website instead of only on the PA system!)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stats is not considered a serious math by most US colleges. 12th graders should at the very least be taking AP Calc AB.

I have a non-math kid and I was told this by a reputable college counselor.

Not true.

UMichigan, a highly ranked school, for example, calls out Calculus only for Engineering applications, not even for Science.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/requirements-deadlines

Furthermore, UMichigan non-Engineering Science-Arts gives more credit for a 5 in AP Stats than for a 5 in AP Calc AB. Only the Engineering schools gives additional credit for calculus.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/ap-ib-credit/ap-guidelines

The University of British Columbia won't consider ANY applicants with AP Stats. It has to be AP Calc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MCPS forces everyone to take a math every year and it honestly sucks. My DD is taking Alg 2 in 9th and has no desire to keep leaning Calculus she will never use another minute in her life. It would be different if she was going for science/engineering/computers/med, etc... but she isn't. The math options suck and to force the kids to keep taking it instead of other more interesting courses stink.

It's not MCPS, it's a state requirement.

https://dsd.maryland.gov/regulations/Pages/13A.03.02.03.aspx

The same idiots that brought us the MCAP. Take your Britishism final exams and stuff them. Total hookup to testing industry yet again

NP, what are you even talking about??? In Britain you can drop maths after the equivalent of 10th grade and never do it again, including as part of your degree, even at the most prestigious world class universities. (And what you do in 9th and 10th grade is far inferior to classes like algebra or geometry).

Also A levels haven’t relied solely on final exams in decades.

[Anonymous]

https://coursebulletin.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/Home/Introduction#repeating

Says you can even repeat a class like Algebra 2 if yu want, even if you already got an A.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stats is not considered a serious math by most US colleges. 12th graders should at the very least be taking AP Calc AB.

I have a non-math kid and I was told this by a reputable college counselor.

Not true.

UMichigan, a highly ranked school, for example, calls out Calculus only for Engineering applications, not even for Science.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/requirements-deadlines

Furthermore, UMichigan non-Engineering Science-Arts gives more credit for a 5 in AP Stats than for a 5 in AP Calc AB. Only the Engineering schools gives additional credit for calculus.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/ap-ib-credit/ap-guidelines

The University of British Columbia won't consider ANY applicants with AP Stats. It has to be AP Calc.

https://you.ubc.ca/applying-ubc/requirements/international-high-schools/#united-states

says Precalculus.

Engineering program requires Calculus indirectly via AP Physics, and B.Science recommends (non-AP) Calculus.
Other programs (including B.Arts in a science subject) do not require calculus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stats is not considered a serious math by most US colleges. 12th graders should at the very least be taking AP Calc AB.

I have a non-math kid and I was told this by a reputable college counselor.

Not true.

UMichigan, a highly ranked school, for example, calls out Calculus only for Engineering applications, not even for Science.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/requirements-deadlines

Furthermore, UMichigan non-Engineering Science-Arts gives more credit for a 5 in AP Stats than for a 5 in AP Calc AB. Only the Engineering schools gives additional credit for calculus.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/ap-ib-credit/ap-guidelines

The University of British Columbia won't consider ANY applicants with AP Stats. It has to be AP Calc.

https://you.ubc.ca/applying-ubc/requirements/international-high-schools/#united-states

says Precalculus.

Engineering program requires Calculus indirectly via AP Physics, and B.Science recommends (non-AP) Calculus.
Other programs (including B.Arts in a science subject) do not require calculus.

No stats though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stats is not considered a serious math by most US colleges. 12th graders should at the very least be taking AP Calc AB.

I have a non-math kid and I was told this by a reputable college counselor.

Not true.

UMichigan, a highly ranked school, for example, calls out Calculus only for Engineering applications, not even for Science.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/requirements-deadlines

Furthermore, UMichigan non-Engineering Science-Arts gives more credit for a 5 in AP Stats than for a 5 in AP Calc AB. Only the Engineering schools gives additional credit for calculus.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/ap-ib-credit/ap-guidelines

The University of British Columbia won't consider ANY applicants with AP Stats. It has to be AP Calc.

Some kids do both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stats is not considered a serious math by most US colleges. 12th graders should at the very least be taking AP Calc AB.

I have a non-math kid and I was told this by a reputable college counselor.

Not true.

UMichigan, a highly ranked school, for example, calls out Calculus only for Engineering applications, not even for Science.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/requirements-deadlines

Furthermore, UMichigan non-Engineering Science-Arts gives more credit for a 5 in AP Stats than for a 5 in AP Calc AB. Only the Engineering schools gives additional credit for calculus.

https://admissions.umich.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/ap-ib-credit/ap-guidelines

The University of British Columbia won't consider ANY applicants with AP Stats. It has to be AP Calc.

Some kids do both.

Yes, well done. Stating the obvious, not responding to the thread at all. Time for bed maybe.