So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or you could take a bus or Metro.

Metro sucks.

As a petite female, I really don’t feel safe on Metro. Maybe work on making it safer if you want to force people to ride Metro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The closure of the upper segment of Beach Drive is a travesty. The only purpose it serves is to push traffic onto Oregon Ave and other residential streets.

No, the only purpose is to protect the trees and animals that live in the national park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You could get most of the throughput back if you switched Connecticut over to using smart lights and give people a green wave at 25mph. Then we don't need to use a park as a commuter route.

You mean like synchronized traffic lights on the major routes, like other cities do? Don't hold your breath. DC has never figured that out. It sometimes seems like traffic on a major route has to stop at every. single. traffic. light. Vehicles stop for a red light, the signal finally goes to green and then the visible green light a block ahead then turns to red. Think of the wasted time, gas consumed and idling exhaust involved. Of course, keeping Beach Drive closed while narrowing Connecticut Ave seems foolish. Then the twice-diverted traffic just adds to Wisconsin and Reno Rd's mess.

The problem is the diagonal streets, that most other cities that developed as straight grids, don't have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or you could take a bus or Metro.

Metro sucks.

As a petite female, I really don’t feel safe on Metro. Maybe work on making it safer if you want to force people to ride Metro.

You are safer on the metro than in your car. Feelings are feelings, facts are facts. It's fine if you don't want to take it, but it's your choice.

[Anonymous]

Aren’t they only coming in once a week

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The closure of the upper segment of Beach Drive is a travesty. The only purpose it serves is to push traffic onto Oregon Ave and other residential streets.

No, the only purpose is to protect the trees and animals that live in the national park.

Then why didn't they close the entirety of Beach? Why is the Parkway open?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYC closed Central Park and Prospect Park to cars. This is just one of the things that’s happening.

I love it when posters compare DC to NYC. NYC is over ten times the size of DC with at least twice the population density. What they do or don’t do is irrelevant to us.

BTW - I have a friend in the know who says the Beach Drive closures aren’t permanent. NPS is open to reassessing based on how traffic patterns evolve.

World class cities everywhere are becoming more friendly to bikes and peds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYC closed Central Park and Prospect Park to cars. This is just one of the things that’s happening.

Most of New York City also has a street grid system. Would you like to see more commuter traffic from major arterial roadways and other busy routes flushed through DC's narrow residential side streets? Between closing Beach Drive and bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue, that seems to be what the bike lobby and DDOT have in mind.

False. Traffic is diverted to other arterials just like in NYC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or you could take a bus or Metro.

Metro sucks.

As a petite female, I really don’t feel safe on Metro. Maybe work on making it safer if you want to force people to ride Metro.

If you don’t feel safe on the red line that’s really your issue to get over. Driving is statistically more dangerous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or you could take a bus or Metro.

Metro sucks.

As a petite female, I really don’t feel safe on Metro. Maybe work on making it safer if you want to force people to ride Metro.

Doubtful that the sketchy types who threaten and engage in other unlawful behavior in the Metro bothered to pay their fares, either.

Metro trains and stations once seemed so clean that one could have eaten off the floor. (Of course, then Metro police would have taken enforcement action.) Now, anything goes: Littering, food and drink left behind on the seats, smoking (cigarettes, pot, vaping), fare evasion/theft of services, loud music playing. Oh, and robberies and the occasional homicide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You could get most of the throughput back if you switched Connecticut over to using smart lights and give people a green wave at 25mph. Then we don't need to use a park as a commuter route.

You mean like synchronized traffic lights on the major routes, like other cities do? Don't hold your breath. DC has never figured that out. It sometimes seems like traffic on a major route has to stop at every. single. traffic. light. Vehicles stop for a red light, the signal finally goes to green and then the visible green light a block ahead then turns to red. Think of the wasted time, gas consumed and idling exhaust involved. Of course, keeping Beach Drive closed while narrowing Connecticut Ave seems foolish. Then the twice-diverted traffic just adds to Wisconsin and Reno Rd's mess.

Actually DC had figured it out. Then the transplants moved in and decided to treat the streets like highways. Sotheby’s lights are no longer synchronized on most streets to cut down on speeding. It’s funny how people who drive carefully in their own neighborhoods drive quite differently outside of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or you could take a bus or Metro.

Metro sucks.

As a petite female, I really don’t feel safe on Metro. Maybe work on making it safer if you want to force people to ride Metro.

You are safer on the metro than in your car. Feelings are feelings, facts are facts. It's fine if you don't want to take it, but it's your choice.

Sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree OP. I live on a DC street that has experienced an exponential growth in cut through traffic due to the weekday closure of Beach Dr plus the reduction in drive lanes on Connecticut Ave. A lot of this is rideshare drovers and Amazon/fed ex drivers who will never be eligible to take metro

This is a narrow east-west residential street and it’s utter bullshit that we suffer arterial-road levels of new traffic, all because of 45 hardcore MAMILs who who want to get their miles in on Beach Drive on a Tuesday at 2:30 pm l

If it is a public road, it isn't "cut through" traffic. Cut through traffic is when there is a field, and some drives across it to get to their destination. A road is a public space, meant to be used for people getting one place to another. That isn't 'cut through"

It’s unequivocally a safety issue when residential-designated streets - so classified based on their width, among other criteria— become default collectors and arterial roads. Example: 41st St NW. Davenport St NW adjacent to RCP.

Probably you should familiarize yourself with DDOT’s official classification before you prattle on again

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/FunctionalClass_2016.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've been commuting by bike on Beach since the closures ... It's amazing and beautiful, and I see a lot of bike and foot traffic on it every morning.

People are really using the park like a park.

People were using it like a part before that you moron.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or you could take a bus or Metro.

Metro sucks.

As a petite female, I really don’t feel safe on Metro. Maybe work on making it safer if you want to force people to ride Metro.

If you don’t feel safe on the red line that’s really your issue to get over. Driving is statistically more dangerous.

This is insane. As a normal size female I feel perfectly safe. Do you think it is the extra 5 inches? The more people that ride Metro the safer it is. And it is safer then driving. Or walking to your car in a dark parking garage! Be alert. Keep your headphones off. Switch seats or cars if someone is worrying you. Don't worry about being rude or even worse being perceived as a Karen. You'll be fine.