So now that Biden is calling back federal workers, can NPS reopen Beach drive to commuters, please?

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Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


It’s worse than that. It’s 100 white guys from Ward 3 telling hundreds of thousands of black and brown people in PG and Montgomery counties who need to go to work to support their families that they can’t use their roads.


+1
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Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


It’s worse than that. It’s 100 white guys from Ward 3 telling hundreds of thousands of black and brown people in PG and Montgomery counties who need to go to work to support their families that they can’t use their roads.


The racializing troll is at it again . . .

It’s getting boring, though. You need to come up with nonsense that is a little less repetitive.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


It’s worse than that. It’s 100 white guys from Ward 3 telling hundreds of thousands of black and brown people in PG and Montgomery counties who need to go to work to support their families that they can’t use their roads.


“Maryland commuters”
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


It’s worse than that. It’s 100 white guys from Ward 3 telling hundreds of thousands of black and brown people in PG and Montgomery counties who need to go to work to support their families that they can’t use their roads.


You talk about these men often. Are they in the room with you right now?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


so wrong. this really says more about you surrounding yourself with white people than anything else.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


It’s worse than that. It’s 100 white guys from Ward 3 telling hundreds of thousands of black and brown people in PG and Montgomery counties who need to go to work to support their families that they can’t use their roads.


The racializing troll is at it again . . .

It’s getting boring, though. You need to come up with nonsense that is a little less repetitive.


they dropped the disabilities trolling and moved on to race
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


It’s worse than that. It’s 100 white guys from Ward 3 telling hundreds of thousands of black and brown people in PG and Montgomery counties who need to go to work to support their families that they can’t use their roads.


Sounds like a PG and MoCo problem. Why aren't you making demands of your own government leaders to bring in more good jobs as opposed to yelling at DC?
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How does this work for federal employees who are in cities without a nearby federal building? Are they expected to return in person too?
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Anonymous wrote:I like the idea of opening it to cars only during rush hour. It’s a fair way for every taxpayer to use the road.


A lot of the commuters taking that path aren't taxpayers, they are commuting to and from Maryland. If you want to make some point about taxpayers then maybe they should make it a toll road for out-of-state vehicles.


Beach Dr is a federal road. We’re all federal taxpayers.


As if that makes a difference. You want all the amenities of DC and preferential treatment despite paying in far less than those of us who are actual DC residents and taxpayers.

How about getting a job in Maryland if you resent us not kissing your ass enough.


Yes, it actually does make a difference. DC residents don't pay more tax to support Beach Dr than MD residents. And the point is to eliminate preferential treatment so Beach Dr can serve the various needs of different people at appropriate times.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like the idea of opening it to cars only during rush hour. It’s a fair way for every taxpayer to use the road.


A lot of the commuters taking that path aren't taxpayers, they are commuting to and from Maryland. If you want to make some point about taxpayers then maybe they should make it a toll road for out-of-state vehicles.


Beach Dr is a federal road. We’re all federal taxpayers.


As if that makes a difference. You want all the amenities of DC and preferential treatment despite paying in far less than those of us who are actual DC residents and taxpayers.

How about getting a job in Maryland if you resent us not kissing your ass enough.


Yes, it actually does make a difference. DC residents don't pay more tax to support Beach Dr than MD residents. And the point is to eliminate preferential treatment so Beach Dr can serve the various needs of different people at appropriate times.


Exactly. Kudos to the National Park Service for eliminating preferential treatment for people who want to use a road through a park for driving their cars to and from work.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like the idea of opening it to cars only during rush hour. It’s a fair way for every taxpayer to use the road.


A lot of the commuters taking that path aren't taxpayers, they are commuting to and from Maryland. If you want to make some point about taxpayers then maybe they should make it a toll road for out-of-state vehicles.


Beach Dr is a federal road. We’re all federal taxpayers.


As if that makes a difference. You want all the amenities of DC and preferential treatment despite paying in far less than those of us who are actual DC residents and taxpayers.

How about getting a job in Maryland if you resent us not kissing your ass enough.


Yes, it actually does make a difference. DC residents don't pay more tax to support Beach Dr than MD residents. And the point is to eliminate preferential treatment so Beach Dr can serve the various needs of different people at appropriate times.


You forgot the part about "while serving the NPS mission" which is not to provide a commuter route through natural parkland.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


It’s worse than that. It’s 100 white guys from Ward 3 telling hundreds of thousands of black and brown people in PG and Montgomery counties who need to go to work to support their families that they can’t use their roads.


The racializing troll is at it again . . .

It’s getting boring, though. You need to come up with nonsense that is a little less repetitive.


And yet no one has a substantive response. It’s all just white people saying they don’t want to think about the structural racism issues here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I like the idea of opening it to cars only during rush hour. It’s a fair way for every taxpayer to use the road.


A lot of the commuters taking that path aren't taxpayers, they are commuting to and from Maryland. If you want to make some point about taxpayers then maybe they should make it a toll road for out-of-state vehicles.


Beach Dr is a federal road. We’re all federal taxpayers.


As if that makes a difference. You want all the amenities of DC and preferential treatment despite paying in far less than those of us who are actual DC residents and taxpayers.

How about getting a job in Maryland if you resent us not kissing your ass enough.


Yes, it actually does make a difference. DC residents don't pay more tax to support Beach Dr than MD residents. And the point is to eliminate preferential treatment so Beach Dr can serve the various needs of different people at appropriate times.


But we DO pay the price for all of your traffic congestion and bad driving and everything else the second you get out of the park. Stop acting like you commuters are somehow more entitled than the rest of us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


It’s worse than that. It’s 100 white guys from Ward 3 telling hundreds of thousands of black and brown people in PG and Montgomery counties who need to go to work to support their families that they can’t use their roads.


The racializing troll is at it again . . .

It’s getting boring, though. You need to come up with nonsense that is a little less repetitive.


And yet no one has a substantive response. It’s all just white people saying they don’t want to think about the structural racism issues here.


No, it's mostly people asking for some evidence that (a) all bicyclists in D.C. (and specifically, on Beach Drive) are white and/or that (b) the people who want to drive in on Beach Drive are mostly black. Let's start there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope they never reopen it. It’s national park land, not a commuter route for Maryland drivers


White cyclists wealthy enough to live close to their jobs telling black drivers who live much farther away from their jobs that they can’t use their roads


You might want to show up at Beach Drive one day and tell all the black people biking, running, and walking that they are being oppressed.


Cyclists are almost 100 percent white: drivers here are disproportionately black.


It’s worse than that. It’s 100 white guys from Ward 3 telling hundreds of thousands of black and brown people in PG and Montgomery counties who need to go to work to support their families that they can’t use their roads.


The racializing troll is at it again . . .

It’s getting boring, though. You need to come up with nonsense that is a little less repetitive.


And yet no one has a substantive response. It’s all just white people saying they don’t want to think about the structural racism issues here.


No, it's mostly people asking for some evidence that (a) all bicyclists in D.C. (and specifically, on Beach Drive) are white and/or that (b) the people who want to drive in on Beach Drive are mostly black. Let's start there.


When I am running or biking on Beach, i see plenty of people also running, walking, schlepping it on a bikeshare, or doing other activities on it that they could NEVER do if there was auto traffic. The sportsmen cyclists actually could have and probably did just cycle on it before closure and just annoyed car drivers lol. They do mostly go faster than the cars were supposed to be anyway.
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