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Case Western
GA Tech Vassar Oberlin Northwestern Spelman Howard Purdue Carnegie Mellon |
The reality is that many Stanford/MIT rejects end up at the bottom of the T25: Columbia, USC, and the like. These schools are the sweet spot for strivers with good grades but nothing special otherwise. |
Your bitterness and envy are blasting so loud above your point no one can hear it. |
L O L nobody is going to Elon or Northeastern instead of Harvard |
Liar |
But is Elon gaming the rankings game? |
Brown is an Ivy you dolt |
No one is going to Oberlin. No one. And Howard is not even close to VA Tech. No one would trade down just for HB |
Probably some of this. My spouses parents met at a top tier ivy; they had 5 kids and only two were as smart as the parents. Neither of them actually went to Ian ivy, although one did get accepted. Two were a solid step down in terms of brains, and one was only slightly above average. |
I'm sure they're trying but Elon is actually not a good school. |
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The double Ivy couples I know with kids who went to top private schools now have kids at:
UVA Vanderbilt Colby Bucknell Bryn Mawr U Chicago And also… Harvard Princeton Dartmouth |
Very true for those set on attending medical school after graduation. |
Nope. Well, some. It’s just wasn’t that hard 20 years ago. Could an Olympian from 1990 compete in 2023? Most not because the pool is just tougher. In the olden days you needed a sat prep class and a high school with teachers who knew how to write LORs. Literally just those two things were more than 80% of the pool. The Internet changed it all. |
Another OOS flagship which should be on the list is UNC-Ch (8% OOS acceptance rate) |
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