Was Thinking of Applying to Holton Arms But Then Saw This

Anonymous
When my daughter attended Holton, the AA girls were some of the smartest girls there. It was obvious they were admitted based on merit and not because of money or connections. There were not that many of them, so I do not think Holton admits based on a quota. Some years there were more AA girls admitted than others. Which tells me the school looks for more than race. I think it is easy for us to look for reasons that our kids do not get into schools and want to find something or someone to blame. I can say that there were quite a few wealthy white girls there who struggled and it was obvious their parents money is the only reason they were admitted and allowed to stay at the school.
Anonymous
OP didn't mention affirmative action - so how is that relevant to this post - does the poster who keeps posting about the Supreme Court understand that it is possible for a black student to be admitted to a school without affirmative action.

Take some time to reflect on why you think this is relevant here poster who is obsessed with affirmative action
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP didn't mention affirmative action - so how is that relevant to this post - does the poster who keeps posting about the Supreme Court understand that it is possible for a black student to be admitted to a school without affirmative action.

Take some time to reflect on why you think this is relevant here poster who is obsessed with affirmative action


Thank you. So sad that this is the immediate go to. I’m African American and my kids always score well on standardized tests (95% or above) and have great grades. I would hate for them to be subjected to this posters racist vitriol. And even if they didn’t score that high, it’s honestly still none of your business. It sounds like this poster’s kid, for whatever reason, isn’t impressive enough to satisfy your thirst to get into your desired school. I feel sorry for your kid too.
Anonymous
As others have mentioned, this Instagram trend targeted many other schools. HAS has gone above and beyond in use of time and money to address the needs of these anonymous posters: curriculum changes, seminar program, guest speakers, common reading, and 3 years of faculty/admin PD. The student population more than adequately reflects the population of Bethesda, the location of the school. AA students are embraced, supported, and presented with the same countless educational opportunities that the others have. They are given the opportunity to voice their concerns to faculty and administration or present on topics of interest to them the student body. These changes have not always been easy. I'm not sure what more can be done, though of course many say "progress" is never finished. What does the end game look like? How can this utopia be created? It does an AA young person(or any young person) to see themselves as hobbled and the world as hopelessly against them. The young person, however, can see a school like HAS as a place of opportunity that most in the world don't have access to. She can do her best at the school and most importantly, use the incredible alumni network to her advantage down the road.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It’s quite clear:
1. Many more URM on aid. Being bused in and recruited. Not close.
2. Up until the Supreme Court ruling, URM kids with meaningfully lower stats were getting into better schools than their white counterparts. Look at the Harvard ruling. Data regarding URM was clear. 100 - 150 points lower on SAT.

Stop expecting special treatment and earn it.


Special treatment like unequal discipline in schools, unequal policing, unequal treatment by lenders and real estate agents? Is that the special treatment you are referring to?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP didn't mention affirmative action - so how is that relevant to this post - does the poster who keeps posting about the Supreme Court understand that it is possible for a black student to be admitted to a school without affirmative action.

Take some time to reflect on why you think this is relevant here poster who is obsessed with affirmative action


Thank you. So sad that this is the immediate go to. I’m African American and my kids always score well on standardized tests (95% or above) and have great grades. I would hate for them to be subjected to this posters racist vitriol. And even if they didn’t score that high, it’s honestly still none of your business. It sounds like this poster’s kid, for whatever reason, isn’t impressive enough to satisfy your thirst to get into your desired school. I feel sorry for your kid too.


nobody wants your fake sympathy. get over yourself.
Anonymous
My AA DD loves Holton, gets top grades, has many friends, is taking advantage of what Holton offers : many leadership opportunities, artistic extracurriculars and sport.

Go Holton!

Anonymous
Holton is in America, racism is everywhere and all of the independent schools in DC have a Black @ page since summer 2020.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP didn't mention affirmative action - so how is that relevant to this post - does the poster who keeps posting about the Supreme Court understand that it is possible for a black student to be admitted to a school without affirmative action.

Take some time to reflect on why you think this is relevant here poster who is obsessed with affirmative action


Thank you. So sad that this is the immediate go to. I’m African American and my kids always score well on standardized tests (95% or above) and have great grades. I would hate for them to be subjected to this posters racist vitriol. And even if they didn’t score that high, it’s honestly still none of your business. It sounds like this poster’s kid, for whatever reason, isn’t impressive enough to satisfy your thirst to get into your desired school. I feel sorry for your kid too.


nobody wants your fake sympathy. get over yourself.


Didn’t you ever hear the expression, “Carry yourself with the confidence of a mediocre white man”? You should try it sometime - you are clearly mediocre which is why you and your child are not achieving your goals. Your words dripping with insecurity about you and your kid’s shortcomings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP didn't mention affirmative action - so how is that relevant to this post - does the poster who keeps posting about the Supreme Court understand that it is possible for a black student to be admitted to a school without affirmative action.

Take some time to reflect on why you think this is relevant here poster who is obsessed with affirmative action


Thank you. So sad that this is the immediate go to. I’m African American and my kids always score well on standardized tests (95% or above) and have great grades. I would hate for them to be subjected to this posters racist vitriol. And even if they didn’t score that high, it’s honestly still none of your business. It sounds like this poster’s kid, for whatever reason, isn’t impressive enough to satisfy your thirst to get into your desired school. I feel sorry for your kid too.


No. Clarence Thomas is a major opponent of affirmative action. He believes it negatively reflects on those who earned a spot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s quite clear:
1. Many more URM on aid. Being bused in and recruited. Not close.
2. Up until the Supreme Court ruling, URM kids with meaningfully lower stats were getting into better schools than their white counterparts. Look at the Harvard ruling. Data regarding URM was clear. 100 - 150 points lower on SAT.

Stop expecting special treatment and earn it.


You have no idea who is on aid and I can promise you there are plenty of white and other families receiving aid you just assume they’re not. Check your bias.
Anonymous
Can this thread be locked please? The relevant info (that all independent schools have this account) has been shared.

The vitriol on the thread is not helpful nor specific or relevant to Holton.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Can this thread be locked please? The relevant info (that all independent schools have this account) has been shared.

The vitriol on the thread is not helpful nor specific or relevant to Holton.


cosigned.
Anonymous
we were at holton. A family of color. Is it perfect? far from it. Have I seen worse (i.e., NCS/St Albans/Gtown prep)? YES! Look, you have to know what you are stepping into when you enter this world. Its largely dominated by old rich white people. Just like the country. If that makes you want to vomit, then probably not a good fit. That being said, education is really good and Holton was very very very nice in the generic sense of the word. Do they need to get more of a clue on diversity? absolutely. But, from one family of color to another, I would not put Holton at the worst of the worst. Far from it. General demographic was upper class white people who voted overwhelmingly for Biden and are moderate left Democrats
Anonymous
Was at Holton and have to admit there are issues for students of color. For instance, all the white girls get invitations to ballroom classes on Friday. Jewish and students of color do not. On the other hand, they are trying. For example, in the 8th grade, they changed world history class into African history. I get the sense that there is a heightened awareness to try to do better. As MLK said, the arc of history is Long.....but it bends towards justice. That is Holton. The arc is long, slow and incremental. But the vector is a good one. In the lobby, there is a hallway of photos depicting graduating senior classes going all the way back to the 1920s. In the 1930s-1960s, its all white. But slowly....very slowly....you start to see it diversify. Change comes slowly but it does come. Hopefully
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