Are private school kids more respectful of teachers?

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Anonymous wrote:Having taught public and private: private kids will look you in the eye and tell you how sorry they are that they did something wrong and they’ll never do it again, then do it again as soon as your back is turned.

Some people confuse this for respect.

Better than being assaulted by public school kids.

You're watching too much newsmax

You're right, teachers aren't assaulted in public schools. The sand you're burying your head in must be very comforting.

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Anonymous wrote:I have only taught at public school so I can’t speak to private school. The answer probably also depends on whether you are talking about elementary vs. middle vs. high school.
I teach at a diverse race and mixed income high school and kids are generally pretty respectful.

No kid has ever used curse words at me. They definitely try to test the teachers to see what they can get away with but once they get familiar with me, they mostly settle down. I put a lot of effort into setting expectations and creating a classroom culture but I imagine I would have to do that in private as well (to a lesser degree). Being a sub is not the easiest in public school but the kids are not usually rude to subs. The sub pay in public is pretty low but I don’t know how it compares with private school sub pay. Teachers greatly appreciate good subs though as they are hard to find. And if the kids give you a hard time, you should leave a note for the teacher as the teacher will get mad at the students for disrespecting the subs.

I have never been to Hawaii, since you asked, but let me tell you all about Florida...

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Anonymous wrote:It's a different type of bad. Private school kids, frankly, are mostly entitled little sh*ts.

I don't think anyone who has had experience teaching in both environments would have this as their main takeaway. Public school teachers are powerless and both the students and parents know it.

LOL, at least at Public we can get kids expelled if they f*** up bad enough. When I taught private, if daddy had enough $$$ it didn’t matter how much drugs they found in your backpack; you got 5 day vacation and a Very Stern Talking To.

But at least you weren't shot or violently attacked in those public schools. Consider yourself lucky.

What? Sadly neither private or public schools are immune from gun violence.

Sadly facts are not on your side.

Statistically, do you really think a kid attending Langley is more likely to be exposed to gun violence than a kid attending Potomac School?

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Anonymous wrote:It's a different type of bad. Private school kids, frankly, are mostly entitled little sh*ts.

I don't think anyone who has had experience teaching in both environments would have this as their main takeaway. Public school teachers are powerless and both the students and parents know it.

LOL, at least at Public we can get kids expelled if they f*** up bad enough. When I taught private, if daddy had enough $$$ it didn’t matter how much drugs they found in your backpack; you got 5 day vacation and a Very Stern Talking To.

But at least you weren't shot or violently attacked in those public schools. Consider yourself lucky.

What? Sadly neither private or public schools are immune from gun violence.

Sadly facts are not on your side.

Statistically, do you really think a kid attending Langley is more likely to be exposed to gun violence than a kid attending Potomac School?

Way to make your argument as granular as possible because statistically private schools are safer than public. For obvious reasons. You know this but don't want to admit it.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a different type of bad. Private school kids, frankly, are mostly entitled little sh*ts.

I don't think anyone who has had experience teaching in both environments would have this as their main takeaway. Public school teachers are powerless and both the students and parents know it.

LOL, at least at Public we can get kids expelled if they f*** up bad enough. When I taught private, if daddy had enough $$$ it didn’t matter how much drugs they found in your backpack; you got 5 day vacation and a Very Stern Talking To.

But at least you weren't shot or violently attacked in those public schools. Consider yourself lucky.

What? Sadly neither private or public schools are immune from gun violence.

Sadly facts are not on your side.

Statistically, do you really think a kid attending Langley is more likely to be exposed to gun violence than a kid attending Potomac School?

Ask the families of that Nashville private school what they think about statistics.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a different type of bad. Private school kids, frankly, are mostly entitled little sh*ts.

I don't think anyone who has had experience teaching in both environments would have this as their main takeaway. Public school teachers are powerless and both the students and parents know it.

LOL, at least at Public we can get kids expelled if they f*** up bad enough. When I taught private, if daddy had enough $$$ it didn’t matter how much drugs they found in your backpack; you got 5 day vacation and a Very Stern Talking To.

But at least you weren't shot or violently attacked in those public schools. Consider yourself lucky.

What? Sadly neither private or public schools are immune from gun violence.

Sadly facts are not on your side.

Statistically, do you really think a kid attending Langley is more likely to be exposed to gun violence than a kid attending Potomac School?

Ask the families of that Nashville private school what they think about statistics.

That was a targeted attack, though. It wasn't just random. The perpetrator picked the school he/she/they went to because of a political, societal agenda. There have been far more attacks and assaults in Davidson County public schools than in the private schools there.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a different type of bad. Private school kids, frankly, are mostly entitled little sh*ts.

I don't think anyone who has had experience teaching in both environments would have this as their main takeaway. Public school teachers are powerless and both the students and parents know it.

LOL, at least at Public we can get kids expelled if they f*** up bad enough. When I taught private, if daddy had enough $$$ it didn’t matter how much drugs they found in your backpack; you got 5 day vacation and a Very Stern Talking To.

But at least you weren't shot or violently attacked in those public schools. Consider yourself lucky.

What? Sadly neither private or public schools are immune from gun violence.

Sadly facts are not on your side.

Statistically, do you really think a kid attending Langley is more likely to be exposed to gun violence than a kid attending Potomac School?

Ask the families of that Nashville private school what they think about statistics.

What about Uvalde, Newtown, Parkland, etc etc?

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Anonymous wrote:They are better behaved because they can be kicked out. Whether that is the same as more respectful is a different question.

But the classroom experience is better, OP, if that’s your actual question.

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They also have parents who are not completely checked out.

Have you really never seen completely checked out rich parents? I went to fancy schools growing up and had several friends whose parents sent them to expensive schools but otherwise didn't give a shit about them and hardly interacted with them, the schools, other parents, etc. The kids were fending for themselves, they just weren't poor.

So kids are both neglected and entitled? Seems like this would help the kids develop "grit" talked about so often here.

Yes, both. But developing grit? No, few kids going to expensive privates have any opportunities for that.

Yet somehow private school teachers report higher job satisfaction than public school teachers. But I'm sure you know best with your vast experience that one time you were in fancy schools.

You are assuming the immediate PP is the one who went to a fancy school but you are mistaken. I do agree with them that rich kids can be both neglected and entitled. Not a comment on teacher satisfaction. I have a good deal of experience observing kids in fancy schools over a number of years. You?

I don’t need to observe rich kids to know them and their secret ways, lol. But you clearly do. Tell us more about your observations. Im sure it will be fascinating. But also completely off topic.

Sure, it’s off-topic. It’s DCUM. Threads wander off-topic, or hadn’t you noticed? Someone said kids are more respectful because their parents are more engaged and someone else said some parents are not engaged at all and someone else questioned that, asking how kids can be spoiled and neglected at the same time. I offered my experience. See how that works?

But still the kids are mere respectful despite whatever deep insights I’m sure your limited experience could provide. Sorry that hurts.

You are not following the thread very well. I didn’t comment on the respectful issue. I commented that kids attending expensive private schools can be both neglected and entitled. And most have few opportunities to develop grit.

Thank you for your concern but this sort of discussion doesn’t hurt me at all. Par for the course.

Nobody cares except you. You're avoiding the issue at hand because it doesn't allow you to dump on rich kids.

DP. WTF calm down. You are the one who is throwing the thread off track with your angry nonsense. Go take a walk or something. You are annoying.

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This type of thread is stupid.

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One of the reasons my kid begged to leave their K-8 school is they were so tired of how disrespectful other kids were to teachers day in/day out. My kid isn’t an angel and certainly took advantage of the freedoms this progressive school offered but just on a human level the disrespect and entitlement turned them off and they didn’t want to be around any more. I do think the parents like most parents would have been embarrassed at the stories I heard about other kids but I also believe they’d have shielded them from every consequence. That’s the reality of private too - the work arounds so that there’s no actual accountability.

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Anonymous wrote:They are better behaved because they can be kicked out. Whether that is the same as more respectful is a different question.

But the classroom experience is better, OP, if that’s your actual question.

+1

They also have parents who are not completely checked out.

Have you really never seen completely checked out rich parents? I went to fancy schools growing up and had several friends whose parents sent them to expensive schools but otherwise didn't give a shit about them and hardly interacted with them, the schools, other parents, etc. The kids were fending for themselves, they just weren't poor.

So kids are both neglected and entitled? Seems like this would help the kids develop "grit" talked about so often here.

Yes, both. But developing grit? No, few kids going to expensive privates have any opportunities for that.

Yet somehow private school teachers report higher job satisfaction than public school teachers. But I'm sure you know best with your vast experience that one time you were in fancy schools.

You are assuming the immediate PP is the one who went to a fancy school but you are mistaken. I do agree with them that rich kids can be both neglected and entitled. Not a comment on teacher satisfaction. I have a good deal of experience observing kids in fancy schools over a number of years. You?

I don’t need to observe rich kids to know them and their secret ways, lol. But you clearly do. Tell us more about your observations. Im sure it will be fascinating. But also completely off topic.

Sure, it’s off-topic. It’s DCUM. Threads wander off-topic, or hadn’t you noticed? Someone said kids are more respectful because their parents are more engaged and someone else said some parents are not engaged at all and someone else questioned that, asking how kids can be spoiled and neglected at the same time. I offered my experience. See how that works?

But still the kids are mere respectful despite whatever deep insights I’m sure your limited experience could provide. Sorry that hurts.

You are not following the thread very well. I didn’t comment on the respectful issue. I commented that kids attending expensive private schools can be both neglected and entitled. And most have few opportunities to develop grit.

Thank you for your concern but this sort of discussion doesn’t hurt me at all. Par for the course.

Nobody cares except you. You're avoiding the issue at hand because it doesn't allow you to dump on rich kids.

DP. WTF calm down. You are the one who is throwing the thread off track with your angry nonsense. Go take a walk or something. You are annoying.

I'm angry? Look in the mirror.

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Anonymous wrote:They are better behaved because they can be kicked out. Whether that is the same as more respectful is a different question.

But the classroom experience is better, OP, if that’s your actual question.

+1

They also have parents who are not completely checked out.

Have you really never seen completely checked out rich parents? I went to fancy schools growing up and had several friends whose parents sent them to expensive schools but otherwise didn't give a shit about them and hardly interacted with them, the schools, other parents, etc. The kids were fending for themselves, they just weren't poor.

So kids are both neglected and entitled? Seems like this would help the kids develop "grit" talked about so often here.

Yes, both. But developing grit? No, few kids going to expensive privates have any opportunities for that.

Yet somehow private school teachers report higher job satisfaction than public school teachers. But I'm sure you know best with your vast experience that one time you were in fancy schools.

You are assuming the immediate PP is the one who went to a fancy school but you are mistaken. I do agree with them that rich kids can be both neglected and entitled. Not a comment on teacher satisfaction. I have a good deal of experience observing kids in fancy schools over a number of years. You?

I don’t need to observe rich kids to know them and their secret ways, lol. But you clearly do. Tell us more about your observations. Im sure it will be fascinating. But also completely off topic.

Sure, it’s off-topic. It’s DCUM. Threads wander off-topic, or hadn’t you noticed? Someone said kids are more respectful because their parents are more engaged and someone else said some parents are not engaged at all and someone else questioned that, asking how kids can be spoiled and neglected at the same time. I offered my experience. See how that works?

But still the kids are mere respectful despite whatever deep insights I’m sure your limited experience could provide. Sorry that hurts.

You are not following the thread very well. I didn’t comment on the respectful issue. I commented that kids attending expensive private schools can be both neglected and entitled. And most have few opportunities to develop grit.

Thank you for your concern but this sort of discussion doesn’t hurt me at all. Par for the course.

Nobody cares except you. You're avoiding the issue at hand because it doesn't allow you to dump on rich kids.

DP. WTF calm down. You are the one who is throwing the thread off track with your angry nonsense. Go take a walk or something. You are annoying.

I'm angry? Look in the mirror.

Yes, you sound angry. I find you merely annoying. You are not worth being angry.

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For what it's worth, private and charter teachers are much happier with their school than public ones, and are far more likely to encourage others into the teaching profession.

For district school teachers,
29% recommend teaching to a friend, 50% wouldn't.

For private school teachers, 51% recommend teaching, whereas 17% wouldn't

For charter school teachers, 56% recommend teaching, and only 14% wouldn't.

https://edchoice.morningconsultintelligence.com/assets/231100.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:It's a different type of bad. Private school kids, frankly, are mostly entitled little sh*ts.

I don't think anyone who has had experience teaching in both environments would have this as their main takeaway. Public school teachers are powerless and both the students and parents know it.

LOL, at least at Public we can get kids expelled if they f*** up bad enough. When I taught private, if daddy had enough $$$ it didn’t matter how much drugs they found in your backpack; you got 5 day vacation and a Very Stern Talking To.

Expelled? Maybe to a different public school. In my extremely large district there is ONE alternative/behavioral school with a max population of ~100 at any given time. I had students "transfer" into my (SPED where they dump all the troublemakers besides the kids that actually have disabilities) class after doing things like stalking a teacher in the parking lot after school hours to threaten her at her car, bring a gun to school, etc. If a student f's up most likely they will be given an IEP if they don't already have one, have a bunch of manifestation meetings where their "disability" is found to be the reason for the behavior 100% of the time, and maybe transferred to another (regular public) school.

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With all due respect, is asking people to make such broad generalizations helpful?