teacher won't tell us how our kid did on the SOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why in the world would you ask about this here? Call the school office and ask the principal. Not that hard.

800 children attend my child's school. Do you know how disruptive and ridiculous it would be for even half of us to demand 20 minutes of the principal's time to address our concerns? It would literally be inhumanly impossible to address the avalanche of Karen and Kens.

Some of us are not garbage people but would appreciate the scores nonetheless.

It’s pretty ridiculous to call someone “garbage” just for daring to ask a question about their child’s test scores.

You are missing the point. It's not a garbage position to want the scores. It's a ridiculous stance to take that everyone needs to simultaneously bombard the school with requests for scores/meetings/etc. to get data that could just be given via email or some other secure method.

[Anonymous]

Can’t the score be posted to SIS? I don’t understand why they hoard the data preventing you from supplementing right away. It’s the deep failing kids that are losing out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can’t the score be posted to SIS? I don’t understand why they hoard the data preventing you from supplementing right away. It’s the deep failing kids that are losing out.

It will be during the last week of school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t the score be posted to SIS? I don’t understand why they hoard the data preventing you from supplementing right away. It’s the deep failing kids that are losing out.

It will be during the last week of school.

Our school was taking SOLs during the week of May 7th. Parents will get results by June 16th. That’s 6 weeks later. This way parents can’t schedule teacher-parent conferences and don’t have time to complain to the admin or seek remediation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t the score be posted to SIS? I don’t understand why they hoard the data preventing you from supplementing right away. It’s the deep failing kids that are losing out.

It will be during the last week of school.

Our school was taking SOLs during the week of May 7th. Parents will get results by June 16th. That’s 6 weeks later. This way parents can’t schedule teacher-parent conferences and don’t have time to complain to the admin or seek remediation.

It’s 5 weeks.
Who cares whether or not your kid passed? It has nothing to do with passing to the next grade. It’s a poorly written test and not a true measure of anything significant. Chill out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t the score be posted to SIS? I don’t understand why they hoard the data preventing you from supplementing right away. It’s the deep failing kids that are losing out.

It will be during the last week of school.

Our school was taking SOLs during the week of May 7th. Parents will get results by June 16th. That’s 6 weeks later. This way parents can’t schedule teacher-parent conferences and don’t have time to complain to the admin or seek remediation.

It’s 5 weeks.
Who cares whether or not your kid passed? It has nothing to do with passing to the next grade. It’s a poorly written test and not a true measure of anything significant. Chill out.

If no one cares, then why do the schools make such a big fuss over preparing for them in class, taking practice tests, and even offering retakes for some kids who fail? They are a big deal for schools. Parents should get the results right away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can’t the score be posted to SIS? I don’t understand why they hoard the data preventing you from supplementing right away. It’s the deep failing kids that are losing out.

It will be during the last week of school.

Our school was taking SOLs during the week of May 7th. Parents will get results by June 16th. That’s 6 weeks later. This way parents can’t schedule teacher-parent conferences and don’t have time to complain to the admin or seek remediation.

It’s 5 weeks.
Who cares whether or not your kid passed? It has nothing to do with passing to the next grade. It’s a poorly written test and not a true measure of anything significant. Chill out.

If no one cares, then why do the schools make such a big fuss over preparing for them in class, taking practice tests, and even offering retakes for some kids who fail? They are a big deal for schools. Parents should get the results right away.

correct! The entire yearly curriculum revolves around the SOLs. Period! The SOLs are all taught by the beginning of May and the last 6 weeks are about marshaling everyone through the practice, the tests, remediation, and any retakes. Not much new material AT ALL happening in May or June at our elementary school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The middle school teachers have told kids scores. The teachers definitely know. Again I wish there was some consistency

This is what I don’t understand - if middle and high schools can share, why can’t elementary?

I know - it's stupid. The teachers know the scores the day after the tests are taken. I think it's stupid that test scores are knowable and they keep from the parents. I think if a test score can be known - it should be given to parent.

Just because you want something doesn’t mean you get it. The entitlement is gross. There’s no need for you to have it immediately. You just want to know. Meanwhile, there are kids still testing. There are kids who have to do retakes. There are kids who have to do make-ups.

If you’re this upset over a stupid SOL score, wait until your kid takes the AP exam. You have to wait 2 months. The horror!

You think it is “entitlement” for parents want to timely know how their child did on tests that the school spends all year prepping for/teaching to, when the schools have the scores almost immediately?! The amount it unnecessary testing they do is insane, particularly when it takes months for parents to get the scores, so we can’t even use the information to help our kids. I am glad I opted my 6 th grader out of most of this nonsense this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We all know they know. So, this means he failed and didn't land in the retake window, right? She said that "SOL scores are released by the state and county" but really, let's be honest here. Thoughts?

It sounds like you don't actually want a score but to know if they passed or failed? That seems like a reasonable request, particularly if you are considering summer school or other remediation if your child failed. I'd ask the principal if the teacher won't tell you.

[Anonymous]

In ES, the SOL is not a score for your DC - it’s a score for the school. The only impact is on the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In ES, the SOL is not a score for your DC - it’s a score for the school. The only impact is on the school.

If you have a 6th grader who wants to take Algebra in 7th, the math sol matters. If you have an older kid applying to LIV, the sol scores are part of the packet.

[Anonymous]

The point is that there are baseline issues if your child failed. Knowing that ASAP is pretty important. I don't think you need to know how well they did if they passed, but parents of kids who failed should be able to know or be told by teachers quickly. I don't see the argument why beyond kids who are in the retake window (and they are informed quickly).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The point is that there are baseline issues if your child failed. Knowing that ASAP is pretty important. I don't think you need to know how well they did if they passed, but parents of kids who failed should be able to know or be told by teachers quickly. I don't see the argument why beyond kids who are in the retake window (and they are informed quickly).

Normally, my students who failed the SOL have also performed poorly on the VGA, the iReady, and countless other assessments giving during the year. This is not the only datapoint.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The point is that there are baseline issues if your child failed. Knowing that ASAP is pretty important. I don't think you need to know how well they did if they passed, but parents of kids who failed should be able to know or be told by teachers quickly. I don't see the argument why beyond kids who are in the retake window (and they are informed quickly).

But why do you need to be told "quickly?" All scores will be posted in SIS the week of 6/12. That's enough time for you to email the school if you see your kid failed and ask for the SDBQ which will tell you the standard for each question your child got wrong. Then you can use that information to remediate your child over the summer should you deem that necessary.

Knowing that score a week or two prior to that 6/12 window will not make any difference in your plan of action.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The point is that there are baseline issues if your child failed. Knowing that ASAP is pretty important. I don't think you need to know how well they did if they passed, but parents of kids who failed should be able to know or be told by teachers quickly. I don't see the argument why beyond kids who are in the retake window (and they are informed quickly).

But why do you need to be told "quickly?" All scores will be posted in SIS the week of 6/12. That's enough time for you to email the school if you see your kid failed and ask for the SDBQ which will tell you the standard for each question your child got wrong. Then you can use that information to remediate your child over the summer should you deem that necessary.

Knowing that score a week or two prior to that 6/12 window will not make any difference in your plan of action.

Actually, I've gotten these reports. And to be honest, I can't tell where my child is. When I met with the teacher, they went through a ton of tut tutting these tests. The i-ready is common core normed so it doesn't follow what we teach. The VGA is only a handful of questions so it isn't accurate.

Really, when it comes to it, the SOL really is the annual benchmark of where the child is. Do they meet the state baseline? This is the only meaningful test.

Our teachers don't even DRA anymore. My son's 3rd grade teacher admitted she had no clue what his reading level was, just that he performed with "x percentile" among third graders given an identical passage to read.

It's a mess. But the SOL is, in fact, critically important. It's a stable baseline test.