Is Lake Barcroft a hidden gem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in that area but have since moved. Schools are terrible and I don't think the lake is reason enough to stay. My friends who remain in the area send kids to private schools.

Annandale has great places to eat, though. But I wouldn't buy a house just to get some good takeout.

Do tell what you mean by "schools are terrible"?

Were the Justice High students admitted this year or last year to Princeton, American, Notre Dame, Yale, Syracuse, Cal Tech, Ohio State, Michigan, Wesleyan, Penn State, UVA, William & Mary, UCLA, JMU, GW, Georgia, Smith, Clemson, Rutgers, USC, Virginia Tech, Middlebury, Georgetown, Maryland, Pitt, and W&L not served well?

Good schools should be teaching students to put the punctuation inside the quotation marks.

You can try to re-brand as the Grammar Nazi, but you've already shown you're just a D-Bag Bro.

[Anonymous]

We looked at homes in Lake Barcroft a year or so ago. I am not against higher FARMS schools, but it seemed like Justice HS was the real deal breaker..the elementary school was widely loved and middle school seemed passable, with some speculation it will improve over time as new families move in. However, the Justice seems split into IB v non-IB and most of the conversations we had within the neighborhood seems to feel that if our kids were gifted or IB, it would be fine bc it’s like a parallel track. However, one of our kids has a learning disorder, and give the high needs of FARMS kids, it seemed unlikely our child’s needs would be adequately met, so we passed. To say people avoid the schools bc they are diverse is disingenuous. The strategy of skimming kids to gifted hubs or separating IB track leaves a very high needs population that I think is unfair, but I’m not willing to sacrifice my kid’s education. Fairfax needs to fix it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in that area but have since moved. Schools are terrible and I don't think the lake is reason enough to stay. My friends who remain in the area send kids to private schools.

Annandale has great places to eat, though. But I wouldn't buy a house just to get some good takeout.

Do tell what you mean by "schools are terrible"?

Were the Justice High students admitted this year or last year to Princeton, American, Notre Dame, Yale, Syracuse, Cal Tech, Ohio State, Michigan, Wesleyan, Penn State, UVA, William & Mary, UCLA, JMU, GW, Georgia, Smith, Clemson, Rutgers, USC, Virginia Tech, Middlebury, Georgetown, Maryland, Pitt, and W&L not served well?

Good schools should be teaching students to put the punctuation inside the quotation marks.

Only American and Canadian English have those punctuation rules. They might be from overseas.

[Anonymous]

I'm in my early 30s and grew up in Lake Barcroft/went to Justice (Stuart at the time). I turned out successful, as did most of my (non-Hispanic peers). Justice is weird in that the Latino population feels like a totally separate school happening to share the same building, since so many of them spoke little English and took completely different, I assume ESL, classes. If your kid is UMC and white they are not getting recruited by MS-13.

I live nearby now, in a SFH in one of the neighborhoods that others here might be calling seedy. Our neighborhood has very few white families, that is true, but I have never felt unsafe. Other houses in my 22041 neighborhood have been selling very quickly, generally at but often well over asking price. A couple examples:
https://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/5939-Kimble-Ct-22041/home/9648507
https://www.redfin.com/VA/Falls-Church/5922-Merritt-Pl-22041/home/9648380

[Anonymous]

Does Fairfax still do that totally bilingual thing like Baileys Crossroads ES for all the ESOL Hispanic immigrants?

Is that working well for getting to grade level?

Nothing is getting them there here in MCPS, still 2-3 grade levels below when testing math or ela reading comp. But we don’t do bilingual teaching.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There a lot of real estate buffs on this site. It is all kind of interesting: How a neighborhood can go from most desirable to just okay (or vice versa) in a few years.

I had no idea Lake Barcroft even existed until I went to some kids birthday party when I was a kid. It’s hidden away behind all the sprawl and garden apartments.

Isn’t it all muck and weeds?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There a lot of real estate buffs on this site. It is all kind of interesting: How a neighborhood can go from most desirable to just okay (or vice versa) in a few years.

I had no idea Lake Barcroft even existed until I went to some kids birthday party when I was a kid. It’s hidden away behind all the sprawl and garden apartments.

Isn’t it all muck and weeds?

Nah, that’s just the twisted ganglia passing for your brain.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in that area but have since moved. Schools are terrible and I don't think the lake is reason enough to stay. My friends who remain in the area send kids to private schools.

Annandale has great places to eat, though. But I wouldn't buy a house just to get some good takeout.

Do tell what you mean by "schools are terrible"?

Were the Justice High students admitted this year or last year to Princeton, American, Notre Dame, Yale, Syracuse, Cal Tech, Ohio State, Michigan, Wesleyan, Penn State, UVA, William & Mary, UCLA, JMU, GW, Georgia, Smith, Clemson, Rutgers, USC, Virginia Tech, Middlebury, Georgetown, Maryland, Pitt, and W&L not served well?

Oh, come off it. Justice is a troubled school with — among other things — high student poverty rates, high teacher turnover rates, and low academic achievement. It’s at the bottom of the barrel along with the likes of Lewis and Annandale. Sure, some students go on to prestigious colleges and universities (Justice like all FCPS high schools is large) but don’t give off an impression that that’s typical. Those kids are in a very small minority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in that area but have since moved. Schools are terrible and I don't think the lake is reason enough to stay. My friends who remain in the area send kids to private schools.

Annandale has great places to eat, though. But I wouldn't buy a house just to get some good takeout.

Do tell what you mean by "schools are terrible"?

Were the Justice High students admitted this year or last year to Princeton, American, Notre Dame, Yale, Syracuse, Cal Tech, Ohio State, Michigan, Wesleyan, Penn State, UVA, William & Mary, UCLA, JMU, GW, Georgia, Smith, Clemson, Rutgers, USC, Virginia Tech, Middlebury, Georgetown, Maryland, Pitt, and W&L not served well?

Oh, come off it. Justice is a troubled school with — among other things — high student poverty rates, high teacher turnover rates, and low academic achievement. It’s at the bottom of the barrel along with the likes of Lewis and Annandale. Sure, some students go on to prestigious colleges and universities (Justice like all FCPS high schools is large) but don’t give off an impression that that’s typical. Those kids are in a very small minority.

The destinations are representative of the children whose parents frequent this forum.

Why are you so hostile? Does it bother you that you went deep into debt to buy a house in the Langley district only to find out the top kids at Justice go to top schools while your Langley kid barely got into JMU?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in that area but have since moved. Schools are terrible and I don't think the lake is reason enough to stay. My friends who remain in the area send kids to private schools.

Annandale has great places to eat, though. But I wouldn't buy a house just to get some good takeout.

Do tell what you mean by "schools are terrible"?

Were the Justice High students admitted this year or last year to Princeton, American, Notre Dame, Yale, Syracuse, Cal Tech, Ohio State, Michigan, Wesleyan, Penn State, UVA, William & Mary, UCLA, JMU, GW, Georgia, Smith, Clemson, Rutgers, USC, Virginia Tech, Middlebury, Georgetown, Maryland, Pitt, and W&L not served well?

Good schools should be teaching students to put the punctuation inside the quotation marks.

Only American and Canadian English have those punctuation rules. They might be from overseas.

And in American English, there is the use/mention difference. When you use the quoted phrase as part of a sentence, the punctuation goes inside the quotes. When you talk about the phrase itself, you put them outside the quotation marks.

Use: PP is a "grammar Nazi."

Mention: PP called PP a "grammar Nazi".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in that area but have since moved. Schools are terrible and I don't think the lake is reason enough to stay. My friends who remain in the area send kids to private schools.

Annandale has great places to eat, though. But I wouldn't buy a house just to get some good takeout.

Do tell what you mean by "schools are terrible"?

Were the Justice High students admitted this year or last year to Princeton, American, Notre Dame, Yale, Syracuse, Cal Tech, Ohio State, Michigan, Wesleyan, Penn State, UVA, William & Mary, UCLA, JMU, GW, Georgia, Smith, Clemson, Rutgers, USC, Virginia Tech, Middlebury, Georgetown, Maryland, Pitt, and W&L not served well?

Good schools should be teaching students to put the punctuation inside the quotation marks.

Only American and Canadian English have those punctuation rules. They might be from overseas.

And in American English, there is the use/mention difference. When you use the quoted phrase as part of a sentence, the punctuation goes inside the quotes. When you talk about the phrase itself, you put them outside the quotation marks.

Use: PP is a "grammar Nazi."

Mention: PP called PP a "grammar Nazi".

More to the point:

According to AP style, a question mark is inside quotation marks if that part is the question and outside the quotation marks if the whole sentence is a question. (The same rule applies to exclamation marks and dashes. Periods and commas always go inside quotation marks.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in that area but have since moved. Schools are terrible and I don't think the lake is reason enough to stay. My friends who remain in the area send kids to private schools.

Annandale has great places to eat, though. But I wouldn't buy a house just to get some good takeout.

Do tell what you mean by "schools are terrible"?

Were the Justice High students admitted this year or last year to Princeton, American, Notre Dame, Yale, Syracuse, Cal Tech, Ohio State, Michigan, Wesleyan, Penn State, UVA, William & Mary, UCLA, JMU, GW, Georgia, Smith, Clemson, Rutgers, USC, Virginia Tech, Middlebury, Georgetown, Maryland, Pitt, and W&L not served well?

Oh, come off it. Justice is a troubled school with — among other things — high student poverty rates, high teacher turnover rates, and low academic achievement. It’s at the bottom of the barrel along with the likes of Lewis and Annandale. Sure, some students go on to prestigious colleges and universities (Justice like all FCPS high schools is large) but don’t give off an impression that that’s typical. Those kids are in a very small minority.

The destinations are representative of the children whose parents frequent this forum.

Why are you so hostile? Does it bother you that you went deep into debt to buy a house in the Langley district only to find out the top kids at Justice go to top schools while your Langley kid barely got into JMU?

You call the person you’re responding to “hostile”, and then you go on to insult their child. I can’t believe there are people who are as unpleasant as you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in that area but have since moved. Schools are terrible and I don't think the lake is reason enough to stay. My friends who remain in the area send kids to private schools.

Annandale has great places to eat, though. But I wouldn't buy a house just to get some good takeout.

Do tell what you mean by "schools are terrible"?

Were the Justice High students admitted this year or last year to Princeton, American, Notre Dame, Yale, Syracuse, Cal Tech, Ohio State, Michigan, Wesleyan, Penn State, UVA, William & Mary, UCLA, JMU, GW, Georgia, Smith, Clemson, Rutgers, USC, Virginia Tech, Middlebury, Georgetown, Maryland, Pitt, and W&L not served well?

Oh, come off it. Justice is a troubled school with — among other things — high student poverty rates, high teacher turnover rates, and low academic achievement. It’s at the bottom of the barrel along with the likes of Lewis and Annandale. Sure, some students go on to prestigious colleges and universities (Justice like all FCPS high schools is large) but don’t give off an impression that that’s typical. Those kids are in a very small minority.

The destinations are representative of the children whose parents frequent this forum.

Why are you so hostile? Does it bother you that you went deep into debt to buy a house in the Langley district only to find out the top kids at Justice go to top schools while your Langley kid barely got into JMU?

I don’t think you understand the concept of homeownership in the U.S. Mortgages are not “debt.” The Langley zone house will be worth double the Justice zone house when it comes time for the family to sell. And real estate is a great investment, because no bank would give you hundreds of thousands of dollars to invest in the stock market, but they’ll give you it to invest in real estate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to live in that area but have since moved. Schools are terrible and I don't think the lake is reason enough to stay. My friends who remain in the area send kids to private schools.

Annandale has great places to eat, though. But I wouldn't buy a house just to get some good takeout.

Do tell what you mean by "schools are terrible"?

Were the Justice High students admitted this year or last year to Princeton, American, Notre Dame, Yale, Syracuse, Cal Tech, Ohio State, Michigan, Wesleyan, Penn State, UVA, William & Mary, UCLA, JMU, GW, Georgia, Smith, Clemson, Rutgers, USC, Virginia Tech, Middlebury, Georgetown, Maryland, Pitt, and W&L not served well?

Oh, come off it. Justice is a troubled school with — among other things — high student poverty rates, high teacher turnover rates, and low academic achievement. It’s at the bottom of the barrel along with the likes of Lewis and Annandale. Sure, some students go on to prestigious colleges and universities (Justice like all FCPS high schools is large) but don’t give off an impression that that’s typical. Those kids are in a very small minority.

The destinations are representative of the children whose parents frequent this forum.

Why are you so hostile? Does it bother you that you went deep into debt to buy a house in the Langley district only to find out the top kids at Justice go to top schools while your Langley kid barely got into JMU?

You call the person you’re responding to “hostile”, and then you go on to insult their child. I can’t believe there are people who are as unpleasant as you.

Since PP responded to a poster who called Justice kids the "bottom of the barrel," I have to assume you're either a troll or an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I don’t think you understand the concept of homeownership in the U.S. Mortgages are not “debt.” The Langley zone house will be worth double the Justice zone house when it comes time for the family to sell. And real estate is a great investment, because no bank would give you hundreds of thousands of dollars to invest in the stock market, but they’ll give you it to invest in real estate.

Someone isn't too familiar with margin lending.

But obviously your agenda is to prop up high values in one school district relative to another. God forbid that buyers stopped paying the same premium to avoid living near poorer people.