"It's not how white men fight" - Tucker Carlson

[Anonymous]

Why in the heck would THIS get him fired. He is literally looking inward and realizing that he is going down a dark path that is not healthy for himself or the country.
Is that why Fox isn't happy? He may have found his conscience?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why in the heck would THIS get him fired. He is literally looking inward and realizing that he is going down a dark path that is not healthy for himself or the country.
Is that why Fox isn't happy? He may have found his conscience?

To be fair, he may have found his own personal Jiminy Cricket, but he curb stomped that righteous little bug of a conscience so he could keep spreading lies and negativity on Fox nightly. This wasn't a turning point for Tucker. It was a brief lapse of evil.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that there is a shred of truth to his comment. I have been assaulted by black guys a few times in my life and they were always in a group while I was alone. Jail is the same way. One second you’re fighting a guy one on one and next thing you know one of his boys comes and cold cocks you from behind. Ask any white boy that grew up in a black neighborhood what their experience has been. Tucker is a racist POS and he certainly meant to be so it’s complicated.

Do you think white guys don’t do that too? That’s just getting friends to back you up. I grew up in a very white farming community and I saw plenty of fights where a few guys either jumped one guy or it started one on one and more jumped in to help their friend. Unequal numbers in a fight isn’t a racial issue, and you’re an idiot racist if you think it is. Have you ever heard of a lynch mob? History is full of examples of groups of white men targeting individual people to fight or worse.

No, I never said that. I actually think there are more similarities than differences between lower class white people and lower class black people than either group cares to mention.

I think that the perception comes from the increased chance/frequency that random white guys encounter groups of lower class black men who are among close friends and willing to F someone up. How often does a random black man walk past the front yard of a group of lower class racist white guys in rural WV?

Okay, you're getting close to blatant racism instead of possibly poorly wording your posts so we can try to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Tucker said "it's not how white men fight." That's a statement of white supremacy. That statement says, other groups can do that, but white men are better than that. The statement wasn't, "that's not a fair fight" or "those white guys shouldn't have fought like that because it's not a fair fight." So when you say there's truth to his statement, then go on to explain that sometimes people from any group will gang up and fight against an individual, you're not actually agreeing with him. You're saying something different. When you start saying it's how poor people behave, you're being classist or elitist, but still not agreeing with him, because that's an entirely different, but also untrue, statement. But when you say it's a behavior exclusive to poor people, especially poor black people, I get your point about how you saw some truth in his statement, because that's racist and classist, so I get why you'd agree with him.

If you meant something else, please explain, but if you're just going to go down this rabbit hole of how this behavior isn't known to white gentlemen, history shows otherwise. If you need people to pull out examples for you, we can, but it's depressing to read about how jackholes throughout history have chosen not to fight fairly and how other jackholes keep excusing and ignoring that behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that there is a shred of truth to his comment. I have been assaulted by black guys a few times in my life and they were always in a group while I was alone. Jail is the same way. One second you’re fighting a guy one on one and next thing you know one of his boys comes and cold cocks you from behind. Ask any white boy that grew up in a black neighborhood what their experience has been. Tucker is a racist POS and he certainly meant to be so it’s complicated.

Do you think white guys don’t do that too? That’s just getting friends to back you up. I grew up in a very white farming community and I saw plenty of fights where a few guys either jumped one guy or it started one on one and more jumped in to help their friend. Unequal numbers in a fight isn’t a racial issue, and you’re an idiot racist if you think it is. Have you ever heard of a lynch mob? History is full of examples of groups of white men targeting individual people to fight or worse.

No, I never said that. I actually think there are more similarities than differences between lower class white people and lower class black people than either group cares to mention.

I think that the perception comes from the increased chance/frequency that random white guys encounter groups of lower class black men who are among close friends and willing to F someone up. How often does a random black man walk past the front yard of a group of lower class racist white guys in rural WV?

Okay, you're getting close to blatant racism instead of possibly poorly wording your posts so we can try to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Tucker said "it's not how white men fight." That's a statement of white supremacy. That statement says, other groups can do that, but white men are better than that. The statement wasn't, "that's not a fair fight" or "those white guys shouldn't have fought like that because it's not a fair fight." So when you say there's truth to his statement, then go on to explain that sometimes people from any group will gang up and fight against an individual, you're not actually agreeing with him. You're saying something different. When you start saying it's how poor people behave, you're being classist or elitist, but still not agreeing with him, because that's an entirely different, but also untrue, statement. But when you say it's a behavior exclusive to poor people, especially poor black people, I get your point about how you saw some truth in his statement, because that's racist and classist, so I get why you'd agree with him.

If you meant something else, please explain, but if you're just going to go down this rabbit hole of how this behavior isn't known to white gentlemen, history shows otherwise. If you need people to pull out examples for you, we can, but it's depressing to read about how jackholes throughout history have chosen not to fight fairly and how other jackholes keep excusing and ignoring that behavior.

Yeah whatevs it’s just reality that a white man in DC has a higher chance of being jumped by a group of black males just like it’s the reality that in rural bumfck USA a black man has a higher chance of being jumped by a group of white men. I’ve lived the reality of that myself. I think it has to do with class but go ahead and deny it all you want. I have a feeling that you have never faced much street violence yourself or else you would understand this. I don’t think it’s right but it’s just the way it is these days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that there is a shred of truth to his comment. I have been assaulted by black guys a few times in my life and they were always in a group while I was alone. Jail is the same way. One second you’re fighting a guy one on one and next thing you know one of his boys comes and cold cocks you from behind. Ask any white boy that grew up in a black neighborhood what their experience has been. Tucker is a racist POS and he certainly meant to be so it’s complicated.

Do you think white guys don’t do that too? That’s just getting friends to back you up. I grew up in a very white farming community and I saw plenty of fights where a few guys either jumped one guy or it started one on one and more jumped in to help their friend. Unequal numbers in a fight isn’t a racial issue, and you’re an idiot racist if you think it is. Have you ever heard of a lynch mob? History is full of examples of groups of white men targeting individual people to fight or worse.

No, I never said that. I actually think there are more similarities than differences between lower class white people and lower class black people than either group cares to mention.

I think that the perception comes from the increased chance/frequency that random white guys encounter groups of lower class black men who are among close friends and willing to F someone up. How often does a random black man walk past the front yard of a group of lower class racist white guys in rural WV?

Okay, you're getting close to blatant racism instead of possibly poorly wording your posts so we can try to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Tucker said "it's not how white men fight." That's a statement of white supremacy. That statement says, other groups can do that, but white men are better than that. The statement wasn't, "that's not a fair fight" or "those white guys shouldn't have fought like that because it's not a fair fight." So when you say there's truth to his statement, then go on to explain that sometimes people from any group will gang up and fight against an individual, you're not actually agreeing with him. You're saying something different. When you start saying it's how poor people behave, you're being classist or elitist, but still not agreeing with him, because that's an entirely different, but also untrue, statement. But when you say it's a behavior exclusive to poor people, especially poor black people, I get your point about how you saw some truth in his statement, because that's racist and classist, so I get why you'd agree with him.

If you meant something else, please explain, but if you're just going to go down this rabbit hole of how this behavior isn't known to white gentlemen, history shows otherwise. If you need people to pull out examples for you, we can, but it's depressing to read about how jackholes throughout history have chosen not to fight fairly and how other jackholes keep excusing and ignoring that behavior.

Yeah whatevs it’s just reality that a white man in DC has a higher chance of being jumped by a group of black males just like it’s the reality that in rural bumfck USA a black man has a higher chance of being jumped by a group of white men. I’ve lived the reality of that myself. I think it has to do with class but go ahead and deny it all you want. I have a feeling that you have never faced much street violence yourself or else you would understand this. I don’t think it’s right but it’s just the way it is these days.

Lol I’m a white woman who works in Oakland and I have to walk past some low income housing (it’s like an apartment building but they rent rooms rather than full apartments) to get from the train to my job. There is always a group of men, mostly black guys, hanging outside the apartment buildings. The sidewalk is uneven because of some tree roots, and I’ve tripped a couple times. Once I bloodied my knee, once I spilled my purse. Never felt unsafe, they all rushed over to help (not swipe my stuff), and when I scraped my knee one of the guys actually went in and got a first aid kit so I could clean it up. The day after I spilled my purse, one of the guys told me he found some lipstick and asked if it was mine. It wasn’t so I declined it, but thought it was really nice. When I take a day off, one of them always checks in to see if I’ve been sick. I know their names and they know mine. I look like any other 40something mom, so it’s not like I’m hot and they’re hitting on me. Just being neighborly.

The two times I’ve been mugged/had something stolen from me on the street, it was white men/boys (one time I was walking out of Walgreens with a package of Reese’s cups in my hand and a kid rode by on his bike and snatched it right out of my hand, and another time some jerk snatched my purse and hopped in his friend’s car).

I grew up in the south, in a rural area. I felt fear many more times there than I have in Oakland. Fights broke out all the time in my high school or at parties, and it seemed to be the favored way of settling disagreements among the guys. I’m not saying Oakland is perfect, but it’s not like you’re gonna be a victim of gang violence the moment you turn down MLK Way just for being white.

I know violent crimes happen, but mostly they seem to be theft related or among people who know each other. I don’t think there are a lot of black guys waiting for a random white guy to walk by so they can jump him. I have heard of white guys shooting people, especially black people, who are near them because they were frightened of being close to a black person. Seems like there were a few stories like that in the news recently. And I know historically black people weren’t allowed to be in certain areas without physical violence coming at them. Maybe you’re right and that’s in the past, and white men just shoot them now rather than getting together a posse and getting their hands bloody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why in the heck would THIS get him fired. He is literally looking inward and realizing that he is going down a dark path that is not healthy for himself or the country.
Is that why Fox isn't happy? He may have found his conscience?

It’s like he found his conscience, but his conscience needs to find its conscience. His epiphany was that the violence he witnessed was not worthy of “white men”. He needs to have another revelation that the violence is not worthy of humanity. This smacks of the false trope that white men fight with honor. Like history books glorifying Custer in his “honorable and heroic” loss to the Native Americans when in actuality, he tried to annihilate them with machine guns.

[Anonymous]

I still find it hilarious that Mr. Milquetoast Bowtie Swanson Dinner thinks he knows anything at all about actual fighting. Maybe he saw a bumfight from his limousine once?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't get how this is any worse than what he was saying on his show night after night.

Obviously his text is appalling, but how is it different?

I think he got booted b/c he was trashing FNC execs & Murdoch family members in currently redacted texts in the Dominion lawsuit - and MSM continues to sue over the issue (probably succesfully) + Abby Grossberg is suing over his show - has already set herself up on MSNBC (so will be happy to keep suing through discovery - which will cause another round of embarrassment for FNC).

I think FNC is due for another yr+ of headache over this dude and they figured he'd be better outside the tent

Ratings have dropped bigly b/c he's personally off the air - but give the Chuds a consistent host in that hour and after a brief period ratings will bounce back.

Grossberg just settled for $12 million.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get how this is any worse than what he was saying on his show night after night.

Obviously his text is appalling, but how is it different?

I think he got booted b/c he was trashing FNC execs & Murdoch family members in currently redacted texts in the Dominion lawsuit - and MSM continues to sue over the issue (probably succesfully) + Abby Grossberg is suing over his show - has already set herself up on MSNBC (so will be happy to keep suing through discovery - which will cause another round of embarrassment for FNC).

I think FNC is due for another yr+ of headache over this dude and they figured he'd be better outside the tent

Ratings have dropped bigly b/c he's personally off the air - but give the Chuds a consistent host in that hour and after a brief period ratings will bounce back.

Grossberg just settled for $12 million.

Wonder if there will be a story on Fox News about it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't get how this is any worse than what he was saying on his show night after night.

Obviously his text is appalling, but how is it different?

I think he got booted b/c he was trashing FNC execs & Murdoch family members in currently redacted texts in the Dominion lawsuit - and MSM continues to sue over the issue (probably succesfully) + Abby Grossberg is suing over his show - has already set herself up on MSNBC (so will be happy to keep suing through discovery - which will cause another round of embarrassment for FNC).

I think FNC is due for another yr+ of headache over this dude and they figured he'd be better outside the tent

Ratings have dropped bigly b/c he's personally off the air - but give the Chuds a consistent host in that hour and after a brief period ratings will bounce back.

Grossberg just settled for $12 million.

Wonder if there will be a story on Fox News about it?

So I guess you could say This is how White Men Pay...

[Anonymous]

To the lawyers out there--

Are there any implications for the Smartmatic suit? An NDA that would prevent testimony in that suit?

[Anonymous]

Of all the arrogant know-it-all anchors on Fox, MSNBC and other garbage cable news networks, Carlson is least deserving of the 10s of millions of dollars he's earned annually to spew the divisive hate the other side rhetoric. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of all the arrogant know-it-all anchors on Fox, MSNBC and other garbage cable news networks, Carlson is least deserving of the 10s of millions of dollars he's earned annually to spew the divisive hate the other side rhetoric. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.

I agree. His voice and demeanor are so irritating. Who can listen to that for long, no matter what content actually comes out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of all the arrogant know-it-all anchors on Fox, MSNBC and other garbage cable news networks, Carlson is least deserving of the 10s of millions of dollars he's earned annually to spew the divisive hate the other side rhetoric. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.

I agree. His voice and demeanor are so irritating. Who can listen to that for long, no matter what content actually comes out?

There are those people that still tune into the cable news networks daily. Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of all the arrogant know-it-all anchors on Fox, MSNBC and other garbage cable news networks, Carlson is least deserving of the 10s of millions of dollars he's earned annually to spew the divisive hate the other side rhetoric. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.

I agree. His voice and demeanor are so irritating. Who can listen to that for long, no matter what content actually comes out?

There are those people that still tune into the cable news networks daily. Sad.

Not anymore..