Is Bullis the new Sidwell??

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Move over Big threes. It's hard to argue against facts. Is Bullis the new number one school in Greater DC?

This is where Bullis grads are going to college. Many of the the Colleges are the best in the country/world.
https://www.bullis.org/class-of-2023-admitted-data#data

Is Bullis the new Sidwell prestige-wise?


But the 2 that got into Harvard are probably the same 1 that got into MIT and 2 of the 5 that got into UPENN….how big is the class? If maybe they have 6 people that got into a bunch of tops schools I don’t think that’s anywhere near the level of the big 3 or big 5 for that matter


Bullis has about 140 seniors each year. These numbers are a handful of students who were accepted to a large number of top ranking colleges.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Move over Big threes. It's hard to argue against facts. Is Bullis the new number one school in Greater DC?

This is where Bullis grads are going to college. Many of the the Colleges are the best in the country/world.
https://www.bullis.org/class-of-2023-admitted-data#data

Is Bullis the new Sidwell prestige-wise?


But the 2 that got into Harvard are probably the same 1 that got into MIT and 2 of the 5 that got into UPENN….how big is the class? If maybe they have 6 people that got into a bunch of tops schools I don’t think that’s anywhere near the level of the big 3 or big 5 for that matter


Bullis has about 140 seniors each year. These numbers are a handful of students who were accepted to a large number of top ranking colleges.


What an odd thing to claim to know. Unless you work for Bullis and know this for certain, which seems hard to believe.
Anonymous
DCUM is chock full of laughable posts but this one right here might take the cake
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Move over Big threes. It's hard to argue against facts. Is Bullis the new number one school in Greater DC?

This is where Bullis grads are going to college. Many of the the Colleges are the best in the country/world.
https://www.bullis.org/class-of-2023-admitted-data#data

Is Bullis the new Sidwell prestige-wise?




We chose St. Andrew's over Bullis and we are sorry we did. St. Andrew's has not been the experience we thought.


Please elaborate. These are two schools on my radar.



We chose St. Andrew's because of the CCTL. They stressed it so much when we were looking at the school, and we were excited about what they presented. It turned out that the educational experience was far below what we had expected. Bullis was our second choice, but in retrospect it should have been our first. And now with there 2023 college acceptance list, they are proving that they have better placement as well.


This is a significant flaw in your reasoning. St. Andrew's is our target for next year, so I began monitoring their outplacement data some time ago. The first major flaw is that you are conflating acceptance with matriculation lists as you compare Bullis to SAES. Major error! SAES, like most schools, only publishes matriculation but doesn't publish acceptances so you have no idea how those lists would stack up. Furthermore, making such a declaration, about any school, based on a single year is horribly flawed. A single graduating class cannot provide you sufficient data to draw a reliable conclusion. In fact, look up the data or Instagram page for SAES Class of 2022 and you will see outstanding results that are comparable to Bullis 2023. But those results for each school can change next year; that is common, which is why aggregate data is published.

Otherwise, I would love to hear more details on your dissatisfactory "educational experience", if you care to share.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Move over Big threes. It's hard to argue against facts. Is Bullis the new number one school in Greater DC?

This is where Bullis grads are going to college. Many of the the Colleges are the best in the country/world.
https://www.bullis.org/class-of-2023-admitted-data#data

Is Bullis the new Sidwell prestige-wise?


But the 2 that got into Harvard are probably the same 1 that got into MIT and 2 of the 5 that got into UPENN….how big is the class? If maybe they have 6 people that got into a bunch of tops schools I don’t think that’s anywhere near the level of the big 3 or big 5 for that matter


Bullis has about 140 seniors each year. These numbers are a handful of students who were accepted to a large number of top ranking colleges.


Are they athletes?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Move over Big threes. It's hard to argue against facts. Is Bullis the new number one school in Greater DC?

This is where Bullis grads are going to college. Many of the the Colleges are the best in the country/world.
https://www.bullis.org/class-of-2023-admitted-data#data

Is Bullis the new Sidwell prestige-wise?




We chose St. Andrew's over Bullis and we are sorry we did. St. Andrew's has not been the experience we thought.


Please elaborate. These are two schools on my radar.



We chose St. Andrew's because of the CCTL. They stressed it so much when we were looking at the school, and we were excited about what they presented. It turned out that the educational experience was far below what we had expected. Bullis was our second choice, but in retrospect it should have been our first. And now with there 2023 college acceptance list, they are proving that they have better placement as well.


This is a significant flaw in your reasoning. St. Andrew's is our target for next year, so I began monitoring their outplacement data some time ago. The first major flaw is that you are conflating acceptance with matriculation lists as you compare Bullis to SAES. Major error! SAES, like most schools, only publishes matriculation but doesn't publish acceptances so you have no idea how those lists would stack up. Furthermore, making such a declaration, about any school, based on a single year is horribly flawed. A single graduating class cannot provide you sufficient data to draw a reliable conclusion. In fact, look up the data or Instagram page for SAES Class of 2022 and you will see outstanding results that are comparable to Bullis 2023. But those results for each school can change next year; that is common, which is why aggregate data is published.

Otherwise, I would love to hear more details on your dissatisfactory "educational experience", if you care to share.


Do you have regrets after seeing this Bullis list? The two schools are so close to each other. Is it too late for you to try to switch to Bullis?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I am new to this since my kids are still in elementary school. bullies has a class of 600+ students in 2023? I am confused


They reported acceptances, not matriculations. Kids were admitted to more than one school.


Good. IMO, the more information, the better.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Move over Big threes. It's hard to argue against facts. Is Bullis the new number one school in Greater DC?

This is where Bullis grads are going to college. Many of the the Colleges are the best in the country/world.
https://www.bullis.org/class-of-2023-admitted-data#data

Is Bullis the new Sidwell prestige-wise?


But the 2 that got into Harvard are probably the same 1 that got into MIT and 2 of the 5 that got into UPENN….how big is the class? If maybe they have 6 people that got into a bunch of tops schools I don’t think that’s anywhere near the level of the big 3 or big 5 for that matter


Bullis has about 140 seniors each year. These numbers are a handful of students who were accepted to a large number of top ranking colleges.


Are they athletes?


Look at the info. Click on the link. There is transparency regarding athletes. https://www.bullis.org/class-of-2023-admitted-data#data
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The level of work at Sidwell and Bullis are vastly different in both depth and quantity, as are the level of expectations and corresponding assessments (how hard they grade).


Do you have children attending both schools? Also, assuming you are correct with your assertion, maybe Bullis is teaching the children more efficiently? Look at the colleges...



DP (and I don't have kids at either school0: the colleges kids go to has literally nothing to do with what or how a high school teaches. If you haven't been through the process yet, you will find this out someday. Take whichever prestige college you want and look at where ALL the freshman come from -- a wide range of high schools. This is related to why you don't pick a high school based on lists of college matriculations. Also, don't pick a college based on where some magazine puts it in a generalized linear list.


Agreed. But the matriculation list obviously does provide "prestige" and that is what this post is about. Sidwell may be allegedly working them "harder" but is it just more busy work from and a much less efficient approach? If so, couldn't those Sidwell students be working on other skills? Bullis is on fire and other schools cannot keep up...
Anonymous
Bullis' incredible level of transparency has all the Bullis bashers upset. I think it would be naive to think Bullis' rise wasn't attributed to its massive level of resources, and stunning campus. It is drawling in the best of the best students. Sidwell is fine but, yes, Bullis has taken over the "number one" spot when it comes to best schools from a college prep perspective.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Move over Big threes. It's hard to argue against facts. Is Bullis the new number one school in Greater DC?

This is where Bullis grads are going to college. Many of the the Colleges are the best in the country/world.
https://www.bullis.org/class-of-2023-admitted-data#data

Is Bullis the new Sidwell prestige-wise?




We chose St. Andrew's over Bullis and we are sorry we did. St. Andrew's has not been the experience we thought.


Please elaborate. These are two schools on my radar.



We chose St. Andrew's because of the CCTL. They stressed it so much when we were looking at the school, and we were excited about what they presented. It turned out that the educational experience was far below what we had expected. Bullis was our second choice, but in retrospect it should have been our first. And now with there 2023 college acceptance list, they are proving that they have better placement as well.


This is a significant flaw in your reasoning. St. Andrew's is our target for next year, so I began monitoring their outplacement data some time ago. The first major flaw is that you are conflating acceptance with matriculation lists as you compare Bullis to SAES. Major error! SAES, like most schools, only publishes matriculation but doesn't publish acceptances so you have no idea how those lists would stack up. Furthermore, making such a declaration, about any school, based on a single year is horribly flawed. A single graduating class cannot provide you sufficient data to draw a reliable conclusion. In fact, look up the data or Instagram page for SAES Class of 2022 and you will see outstanding results that are comparable to Bullis 2023. But those results for each school can change next year; that is common, which is why aggregate data is published.

Otherwise, I would love to hear more details on your dissatisfactory "educational experience", if you care to share.


Do you have regrets after seeing this Bullis list? The two schools are so close to each other. Is it too late for you to try to switch to Bullis?


Absolutely not. Even if outplacement becomes more similar, the culture of the schools differ greatly, and St. Andrew's is a far better fit for us. The genuine warmth, kindness, and focus on developing each child to their best potential are not comparable with Bullis. I am thrilled for all of the Bullis students and parents who got their desired results this year, but school is not solely about outplacement. After all, the kids (and parents to some extent) must experience that school daily for years prior to the finish line - that experience matters.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Move over Big threes. It's hard to argue against facts. Is Bullis the new number one school in Greater DC?

This is where Bullis grads are going to college. Many of the the Colleges are the best in the country/world.
https://www.bullis.org/class-of-2023-admitted-data#data

Is Bullis the new Sidwell prestige-wise?




We chose St. Andrew's over Bullis and we are sorry we did. St. Andrew's has not been the experience we thought.


Please elaborate. These are two schools on my radar.



We chose St. Andrew's because of the CCTL. They stressed it so much when we were looking at the school, and we were excited about what they presented. It turned out that the educational experience was far below what we had expected. Bullis was our second choice, but in retrospect it should have been our first. And now with there 2023 college acceptance list, they are proving that they have better placement as well.


This is a significant flaw in your reasoning. St. Andrew's is our target for next year, so I began monitoring their outplacement data some time ago. The first major flaw is that you are conflating acceptance with matriculation lists as you compare Bullis to SAES. Major error! SAES, like most schools, only publishes matriculation but doesn't publish acceptances so you have no idea how those lists would stack up. Furthermore, making such a declaration, about any school, based on a single year is horribly flawed. A single graduating class cannot provide you sufficient data to draw a reliable conclusion. In fact, look up the data or Instagram page for SAES Class of 2022 and you will see outstanding results that are comparable to Bullis 2023. But those results for each school can change next year; that is common, which is why aggregate data is published.

Otherwise, I would love to hear more details on your dissatisfactory "educational experience", if you care to share.


Do you have regrets after seeing this Bullis list? The two schools are so close to each other. Is it too late for you to try to switch to Bullis?


Absolutely not. Even if outplacement becomes more similar, the culture of the schools differ greatly, and St. Andrew's is a far better fit for us. The genuine warmth, kindness, and focus on developing each child to their best potential are not comparable with Bullis. I am thrilled for all of the Bullis students and parents who got their desired results this year, but school is not solely about outplacement. After all, the kids (and parents to some extent) must experience that school daily for years prior to the finish line - that experience matters.



I completely agree with you, which is why we are thrilled that our child is at Bullis. She was in the lower school and is now in the middle school and couldn’t be happier.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Move over Big threes. It's hard to argue against facts. Is Bullis the new number one school in Greater DC?

This is where Bullis grads are going to college. Many of the the Colleges are the best in the country/world.
https://www.bullis.org/class-of-2023-admitted-data#data

Is Bullis the new Sidwell prestige-wise?


Bullis wishes! They’re happy just to have their name mentioned in the same sentence as Sidwell.

Compare the Bullis PR fluff (linked above) to Bullis’ 2023 Instagram page (https://instagram.com/23niordawgs?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=).
Of course, not everyone posts but if those results were from 20 to 30+ students, you would have a lot more than 3 posts announcing acceptances to Stanford, Cornell and UPenn.

Sidwell has 14 posts from students heading to Ivies and MIT. That’s 14 separate and distinct students (about 12% of the total class, with only half the class posting so far). There are other Sidwell students who will attend Ivies this fall—they just haven’t posted (yet).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The level of work at Sidwell and Bullis are vastly different in both depth and quantity, as are the level of expectations and corresponding assessments (how hard they grade).


Do you have children attending both schools? Also, assuming you are correct with your assertion, maybe Bullis is teaching the children more efficiently? Look at the colleges...



DP (and I don't have kids at either school0: the colleges kids go to has literally nothing to do with what or how a high school teaches. If you haven't been through the process yet, you will find this out someday. Take whichever prestige college you want and look at where ALL the freshman come from -- a wide range of high schools. This is related to why you don't pick a high school based on lists of college matriculations. Also, don't pick a college based on where some magazine puts it in a generalized linear list.


Agreed. But the matriculation list obviously does provide "prestige" and that is what this post is about. Sidwell may be allegedly working them "harder" but is it just more busy work from and a much less efficient approach? If so, couldn't those Sidwell students be working on other skills? Bullis is on fire and other schools cannot keep up...


It’s more work and it’s their “teach yourself” mantra. Like the british uni tutelage- study and learn it yourself, then swing by class to discuss the intracacies once a week.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Move over Big threes. It's hard to argue against facts. Is Bullis the new number one school in Greater DC?

This is where Bullis grads are going to college. Many of the the Colleges are the best in the country/world.
https://www.bullis.org/class-of-2023-admitted-data#data

Is Bullis the new Sidwell prestige-wise?




We chose St. Andrew's over Bullis and we are sorry we did. St. Andrew's has not been the experience we thought.


Please elaborate. These are two schools on my radar.



We chose St. Andrew's because of the CCTL. They stressed it so much when we were looking at the school, and we were excited about what they presented. It turned out that the educational experience was far below what we had expected. Bullis was our second choice, but in retrospect it should have been our first. And now with there 2023 college acceptance list, they are proving that they have better placement as well.


This is a significant flaw in your reasoning. St. Andrew's is our target for next year, so I began monitoring their outplacement data some time ago. The first major flaw is that you are conflating acceptance with matriculation lists as you compare Bullis to SAES. Major error! SAES, like most schools, only publishes matriculation but doesn't publish acceptances so you have no idea how those lists would stack up. Furthermore, making such a declaration, about any school, based on a single year is horribly flawed. A single graduating class cannot provide you sufficient data to draw a reliable conclusion. In fact, look up the data or Instagram page for SAES Class of 2022 and you will see outstanding results that are comparable to Bullis 2023. But those results for each school can change next year; that is common, which is why aggregate data is published.

Otherwise, I would love to hear more details on your dissatisfactory "educational experience", if you care to share.


Do you have regrets after seeing this Bullis list? The two schools are so close to each other. Is it too late for you to try to switch to Bullis?


Absolutely not. Even if outplacement becomes more similar, the culture of the schools differ greatly, and St. Andrew's is a far better fit for us. The genuine warmth, kindness, and focus on developing each child to their best potential are not comparable with Bullis. I am thrilled for all of the Bullis students and parents who got their desired results this year, but school is not solely about outplacement. After all, the kids (and parents to some extent) must experience that school daily for years prior to the finish line - that experience matters.



I completely agree with you, which is why we are thrilled that our child is at Bullis. She was in the lower school and is now in the middle school and couldn’t be happier.


Did you start at K? Did you choose Bullis over Sidwell? I ask because I am considering Bullis for K.
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