Wealthy friends spamming their beachfront vacation home rentals on Facebook - beyond tacky, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s the big deal? Does this really make you angry? Do their posts take away from the quality of your life?

It’s shameless, tacky, and greedy. Sorry your “side hustle” makes you look like uncouth hard-up trash.

[Anonymous]

I don’t think it’s a big deal. I think OP is jealous.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand what the issue is. It's business. The rentals is how they make money (or one avenue at least).

Honestly, OP, you should learn from their business dealings and realize that the best avenue from referral is your existing network.

I don't see anything wrong with what they've done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We post ours now and again. It’s an investment so we rent it out, if we get last min cancellations we will offer a deal to friends/family. Not sure what your issue is OP?

We've always done the bolded -- sometimes at no charge to who's staying there.

We prefer that the property is used consistently, as friends of ours have had the biggest nightmares happened to them when the property had a vacancy of no more than 2 to 3 weeks in a row.

There have been everything from robberies to a stranger forging a one year rental agreement on the home, moving their stuff in & refusing to leave... and the police wouldn't get involved because it was a "civil" manner.

If you all don't think that this can't happen to you, in the home you own & live in right now (not just a vacation homes) you're sadly naive & mistaken.
All these con artists would have to do, is wait for you to leave for an extended period of time, like an 8 hour work day or a weekend, and you'll come home the find the locks changed and the "tenant" refuses to speak with you or open the door, and then THEY threaten to call the police on YOU.

So, the police show up & won't do a damn thing to help, because the "tenant" will produce a (forged) lease & (forged) receipt of payment for a year's rent that looks legit. The police won't know who to believe, so they'll tell you all to take it up in court... and courts are still so backed up due to covid, cases are being scheduled 6 - 12 months out. In the meantime, you have to hire a lawyer AND find someplace else for you and your family to stay until the court date comes -- meanwhile, they're living in your home, using your furniture, going through your private property & valuables, and you cannot do a thing about it, because they never leave the home so that you can claim it back.

It took those friends almost 13 months and over $20,000 in attorney's fees just to get their home back - on top of that, they lost all of the revenue for the entire summer season & had to keep paying the mortgage in the property.

Other friends had their beach house robbed when the home was vacant for two full weeks due to cancelations.
In that time, the thieves were able to get in and out a few times without detection, and by the time the homeowners were notified of the break in (by the next family who were there to rent it) it was weeks later and there was no hope of catching who did it.
Plus, they had to reimburse the people who had come to the home that weekend, because the basement door had been jimmied open, and they would have no way of securing the property (our friends had the cleaning people come right after the previous renters left, assuming the house would be rented again by the very next people (who were scheduled to arrive in a few hours) but those people cancelled, so the house sat empty & clean for two full weeks -- that's why the new renters were the ones who found it broken into).

Yes, they had a RING, for their front door & patio door, but the basement door is neither viewable nor accessible to someone who just walks up to the house from off the street and decides to randomly rob it (you'd have to be aware of the finer details of the property & the property's intricate layout to find that door) so they didn't think to put a RING on it, because literally nobody outside of the family could used that door... like ever. Not even the renters.
The renters could see the door, but didn't have a key to open it.
The police assumed it was a previous VRBO renter, because no body else could know where to break in to avoid the cameras and also not be detected by neighbors.

I'd much rather have a friend or family member stay at my place for free, because after hearing so many stories (I just told you two, but we know of dozens more).
IMO, someone physically staying at my house is actually doing me a favor, so I'm happy not to charge them.

Lawyers of DCUM, please calm my anxiety and tell me the above horror story couldn't actually happen to me. A random robber couldn't come squat in my home for 13 months just by breaking in, changing the locks and printing up a fake lease agreement.

Also PP, how do you know dozens of stories like this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know an acquaintance who’s done this. Bought a vacation house they really couldn’t afford and spam FB constantly. It’s tacky as hell. And I have a vacation house, so I’m not a “jealous hater”.

Do you let strangers sleep in it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve had a vacation home for 15 years and just let friends use it without payment. I could not imagine charging someone for its use.

This is what I do. It makes me so happy to be able to share it with friends and family who need to escape for a little while or gather with their loved ones.

[Anonymous]

I think you should spam your garage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the big deal? Does this really make you angry? Do their posts take away from the quality of your life?

It’s shameless, tacky, and greedy. Sorry your “side hustle” makes you look like uncouth hard-up trash.

This is so aggressive. You should reflect on why someone's business choices cause you to exhibit such rage.

[Anonymous]

I think it depends. I don’t think it’s a big deal for someone to put that on their personal Facebook page as you can simply mute them. I will say I’m on a geography based list serv that also has an affiliated email list for selling things and I find it irritating when the same people post their vacation property for rent over and over on the main email list.

[Anonymous]

I only invite people whom I'm willing to let stay for FREE to my beach house. I would never charge a friend. So no, I don't put it on FB. It is tacky. Showing off and money grubbing at the same time. Ick

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the big deal? Does this really make you angry? Do their posts take away from the quality of your life?

It’s shameless, tacky, and greedy. Sorry your “side hustle” makes you look like uncouth hard-up trash.

This is so aggressive. You should reflect on why someone's business choices cause you to exhibit such rage.

You should reflect on why you rationalize tacky money-grubbing behavior. But of course they would require self-awareness and some level of shame, of which you have none. Carry on, sweetie. Nobody is jealous of hard-up wannabes who let strangers do God knows what to their family home for a buck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We post ours now and again. It’s an investment so we rent it out, if we get last min cancellations we will offer a deal to friends/family. Not sure what your issue is OP?

We've always done the bolded -- sometimes at no charge to who's staying there.

We prefer that the property is used consistently, as friends of ours have had the biggest nightmares happened to them when the property had a vacancy of no more than 2 to 3 weeks in a row.

There have been everything from robberies to a stranger forging a one year rental agreement on the home, moving their stuff in & refusing to leave... and the police wouldn't get involved because it was a "civil" manner.

If you all don't think that this can't happen to you, in the home you own & live in right now (not just a vacation homes) you're sadly naive & mistaken.
All these con artists would have to do, is wait for you to leave for an extended period of time, like an 8 hour work day or a weekend, and you'll come home the find the locks changed and the "tenant" refuses to speak with you or open the door, and then THEY threaten to call the police on YOU.

So, the police show up & won't do a damn thing to help, because the "tenant" will produce a (forged) lease & (forged) receipt of payment for a year's rent that looks legit. The police won't know who to believe, so they'll tell you all to take it up in court... and courts are still so backed up due to covid, cases are being scheduled 6 - 12 months out. In the meantime, you have to hire a lawyer AND find someplace else for you and your family to stay until the court date comes -- meanwhile, they're living in your home, using your furniture, going through your private property & valuables, and you cannot do a thing about it, because they never leave the home so that you can claim it back.

It took those friends almost 13 months and over $20,000 in attorney's fees just to get their home back - on top of that, they lost all of the revenue for the entire summer season & had to keep paying the mortgage in the property.

Other friends had their beach house robbed when the home was vacant for two full weeks due to cancelations.
In that time, the thieves were able to get in and out a few times without detection, and by the time the homeowners were notified of the break in (by the next family who were there to rent it) it was weeks later and there was no hope of catching who did it.
Plus, they had to reimburse the people who had come to the home that weekend, because the basement door had been jimmied open, and they would have no way of securing the property (our friends had the cleaning people come right after the previous renters left, assuming the house would be rented again by the very next people (who were scheduled to arrive in a few hours) but those people cancelled, so the house sat empty & clean for two full weeks -- that's why the new renters were the ones who found it broken into).

Yes, they had a RING, for their front door & patio door, but the basement door is neither viewable nor accessible to someone who just walks up to the house from off the street and decides to randomly rob it (you'd have to be aware of the finer details of the property & the property's intricate layout to find that door) so they didn't think to put a RING on it, because literally nobody outside of the family could used that door... like ever. Not even the renters.
The renters could see the door, but didn't have a key to open it.
The police assumed it was a previous VRBO renter, because no body else could know where to break in to avoid the cameras and also not be detected by neighbors.

I'd much rather have a friend or family member stay at my place for free, because after hearing so many stories (I just told you two, but we know of dozens more).
IMO, someone physically staying at my house is actually doing me a favor, so I'm happy not to charge them.

Lawyers of DCUM, please calm my anxiety and tell me the above horror story couldn't actually happen to me. A random robber couldn't come squat in my home for 13 months just by breaking in, changing the locks and printing up a fake lease agreement.

Also PP, how do you know dozens of stories like this?

Not the PP, but it's a very real thing and it happens.

Here's one story from our area.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/fake-lease-used-occupying-home-clinton-maryland-strangers-inside/65-d4464bd9-ee3e-4c03-b121-c1a29d576bf5

But you can find stories like this all over the country... it's a gripping epidemic & the squatters know the rules.

https://www.koaa.com/news/2017/09/15/squatters-lock-out-homeowner-from-house-lawmaker-plans-to-draft-legislation-to-criminalize-squatting/

https://abc7ny.com/what-is-a-squatter-meyerland-houston-tx-rental-homes/13030641/

https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/homeowner-locked-out-by-tenant-accused-of-illegally-subletting-the-home/

https://abc7chicago.com/what-are-squatters-taking-over-homes-meyerland-houston-tx/13012703/

https://abc7.com/stranger-moves-into-cihcago-house-for-sale-chicago-homeowner-battle-with-squatter-problems-houses/11935474/

https://www.koaa.com/news/news5-investigates/2017/09/07/squatters-take-over-mans-home-while-hes-out-of-state/

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/homeowners-find-alleged-squatter-changing-locks-home-after-they-say-he-broke/T4XX42SKC5GCZGYZRQYSUHBSKI/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the big deal? Does this really make you angry? Do their posts take away from the quality of your life?

It’s shameless, tacky, and greedy. Sorry your “side hustle” makes you look like uncouth hard-up trash.

This is so aggressive. You should reflect on why someone's business choices cause you to exhibit such rage.

You should reflect on why you rationalize tacky money-grubbing behavior. But of course they would require self-awareness and some level of shame, of which you have none. Carry on, sweetie. Nobody is jealous of hard-up wannabes who let strangers do God knows what to their family home for a buck.

You need to start smoking weed

Sheesh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What’s the big deal? Does this really make you angry? Do their posts take away from the quality of your life?

It’s shameless, tacky, and greedy. Sorry your “side hustle” makes you look like uncouth hard-up trash.

This is so aggressive. You should reflect on why someone's business choices cause you to exhibit such rage.

You should reflect on why you rationalize tacky money-grubbing behavior. But of course they would require self-awareness and some level of shame, of which you have none. Carry on, sweetie. Nobody is jealous of hard-up wannabes who let strangers do God knows what to their family home for a buck.

Not the pp, but why are you so triggered?
The pp was right, you really are aggressive... and you sound bitter too.

[Anonymous]

Having to rent to strangers is not wealthy. It’s grasping.