Lab grown diamonds

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Anonymous wrote:I have been contemplating lab grown studs for a few years. I say a thing on TV basically saying they were worth $50, but he was a natural diamond promoter. I kept thinking prices might drop, but they haven't

Actually prices have fallen tremendously. But not to $50/carat or anything like that.

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Anonymous wrote:Man made diamonds are diamonds. High VSS rating, meaning clean, no occlusions.
It is because of the complete lack of occlusions that an expert can tell they are not natural.

Natural stones have natural features, like occlusions, veining, coloration, some kind of blemish in its body. Teeny tiny but they are there.

I just have to say it- inclusions, PP, not occlusions. Two totally different words with two totally different meanings. And it’s VVS, not VSS.

True, but overall, they are right. They are diamonds. A trained eye with a loupe can tell lab grown versus a natural stone. It’s all about the cut. I don’t think anybody will be taking such a close look at your stone, that they can tell it is lab versus mined.

It’s the same with lab grown sapphires, rubies and emeralds. They are the same gem just not mined and without inclusions and veining. Some people want that and some people don’t care.

Omg NO. You’re right that they’re distinguishable under a loop but it has nothing to do with the cut. The inclusions in lab diamonds have characteristics that are distinguishable from natural.

This is completely different than corundum stones (sapphires and rubies) where the lab versions do not have any kind of inclusions.

Sorry, I wasn’t clear. The cut of any stone is what makes a difference so you want a good cut on any stone.

[Anonymous]

Can someone explain the price difference between lab and real?

And is it true the lab have no resale value?

Little secret about real diamonds and fancy watches is that people like them so they can travel with an asset they can quickly turn into cash.

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Anonymous wrote:I have been contemplating lab grown studs for a few years. I say a thing on TV basically saying they were worth $50, but he was a natural diamond promoter. I kept thinking prices might drop, but they haven't

Actually prices have fallen tremendously. But not to $50/carat or anything like that.

The price of Lightbox lab diamonds have increased since the start of the pandemic.They also now have two grades. They used to sell their 1 CT stud earrings $1,000 per pair; now its gone up to $1,200 and $2,000 for their "Finest" quality studs.


The basic ones are VS clarity, Near Colorless and Very Good cut:
https://lightboxjewelry.com/products/earrings-1carat-tw-solitaire-14k-gold-studs-white

The "Finest" studs are VVS clarity, Colorless and Excellent cut.
https://lightboxjewelry.com/collections/earrings-studs/products/earrings-1carat-finest-solitaire-studs-white-1

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Anonymous wrote:I have been contemplating lab grown studs for a few years. I say a thing on TV basically saying they were worth $50, but he was a natural diamond promoter. I kept thinking prices might drop, but they haven't

Actually prices have fallen tremendously. But not to $50/carat or anything like that.

The price of Lightbox lab diamonds have increased since the start of the pandemic.They also now have two grades. They used to sell their 1 CT stud earrings $1,000 per pair; now its gone up to $1,200 and $2,000 for their "Finest" quality studs.


The basic ones are VS clarity, Near Colorless and Very Good cut:
https://lightboxjewelry.com/products/earrings-1carat-tw-solitaire-14k-gold-studs-white

The "Finest" studs are VVS clarity, Colorless and Excellent cut.
https://lightboxjewelry.com/collections/earrings-studs/products/earrings-1carat-finest-solitaire-studs-white-1

I mean that’s not an actual price increase, it’s a new product line. The previous diamonds were “basic” quality.

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Anonymous wrote:I understand the ethical argument of lab-grown diamonds but if you are buying from DeBeers are you not just enriching the perpetrators of the mined diamond horrors? I really dont see how its better. DeBeers jumped into lab-grown so they could continue to control the mkt.

Because there is no actual mining involved any more. Surely you can see the difference?

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NP- but surely you can see that DeBeers has made money off of horrible practices and only entered the lab business in an effort to support prices of their mined gems. If they had switched from mined to lab completely, I could see how you could justify buying from them as positive reinforcement. There are other sources of lab diamonds that are a much better value and much less troubling ethics

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Anonymous wrote:NP- but surely you can see that DeBeers has made money off of horrible practices and only entered the lab business in an effort to support prices of their mined gems. If they had switched from mined to lab completely, I could see how you could justify buying from them as positive reinforcement. There are other sources of lab diamonds that are a much better value and much less troubling ethics

Better value? Links please! The lab market was primarily horrified when they entered by their prices, which were much lower than sellers at the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please! If you can't afford a real diamond then you should not be wearing diamonds. It's like wearing a knock off rolex. Those who know, know

I highly doubt the ones who really know includes you.

Who cares? Is the point to have a pretty piece of jewelry or to brag about the cost?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please! If you can't afford a real diamond then you should not be wearing diamonds. It's like wearing a knock off rolex. Those who know, know

I highly doubt the ones who really know includes you.

Who cares? Is the point to have a pretty piece of jewelry or to brag about the cost?

The point is to have a piece of jewelry that very possibly was wrested from the ground by a child and to brag about the cost.

And then, apparently, to hock it the first chance you get.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please! If you can't afford a real diamond then you should not be wearing diamonds. It's like wearing a knock off rolex. Those who know, know

Hard agree. They don't look as warm IRL

Oh please. You're just trying to justify all the money you wasted on mined diamonds.

OP, please don't buy Lightbox, DeBeers is a TERRIBLE company. Brilliant Earth is great, as is Blue Nile.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please! If you can't afford a real diamond then you should not be wearing diamonds. It's like wearing a knock off rolex. Those who know, know

Hard agree. They don't look as warm IRL

Not true. Also stones like moissanite are indistinguishable IRL. I challenge you to tell us the difference. I can hold a moissanite next to my diamond in multiple lights and can't yell the difference with the naked eye. Under a microscope is different, but I work with gems for a living.

Yep, multiple moms at my kids' private school have complimented me on my 4 carat "diamond" that is actually a moissanite.

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Anonymous wrote:I prefer natural diamonds but it's all about the setting. A good setting will make CZ look real. I would not spend above that for lab diamonds.

I believe you meant to say "mined diamonds". Lab diamonds are grown from diamond seeds, and made from the exact same components -- they are also "natural".

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please! If you can't afford a real diamond then you should not be wearing diamonds. It's like wearing a knock off rolex. Those who know, know

Hard agree. They don't look as warm IRL

Not true. Also stones like moissanite are indistinguishable IRL. I challenge you to tell us the difference. I can hold a moissanite next to my diamond in multiple lights and can't yell the difference with the naked eye. Under a microscope is different, but I work with gems for a living.

Are you blind? Because moissanite double refraction is very obvious. Lab diamonds, on the other hand, are indistinguishable and often do come in warmer colors contrary to what PP seems to think.

Not all cuts. Have you ever seen an emerald cut moissanite? I doubt it. Stop regurgitating things you read on Wikipedia.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please! If you can't afford a real diamond then you should not be wearing diamonds. It's like wearing a knock off rolex. Those who know, know

Hard agree. They don't look as warm IRL

Not true. Also stones like moissanite are indistinguishable IRL. I challenge you to tell us the difference. I can hold a moissanite next to my diamond in multiple lights and can't yell the difference with the naked eye. Under a microscope is different, but I work with gems for a living.

Yep, multiple moms at my kids' private school have complimented me on my 4 carat "diamond" that is actually a moissanite.

Did you tell them?