Church Raised Adult Children who Reject their Religion and are Raising Kids Without Church

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, you do not baptize a kid without parental consent! That's an excellent way to lose access to your grandkids, among other things.

You should ask yourself why your adult children left the church. You should consider their values -- are they so different from yours, really? Are they good people, teaching their kids to be honest, kind, compassionate, etc.? Do you trust that you did a good job raising them?

NP. if you're an atheist and baptism means nothing to you, why do you care?

I would care because it fundamentally disrespects my rights to make decisions as a parent and steps over a boundary. What other boundary violations are going to happen in the future?

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I guess you want your kid to burn in hell.

Since I don’t believe in hell, it’s not a concern of mine.

Also do y’all go after kids whose parents don’t practice child baptism like the way you go after kids if atheists? Like, if the parents were some denomination that only practices adult baptism, would you be so concerned about kids burning in hell? Where do the children of evangelicals go when they die?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone worry that their young grandkids are not baptized and taught in the church? Do you read bible stories to them? Baptize?

Don't have grandkids yet and we weren't strict churchgoers over the years but having been raised a Catholic, I still feel very strongly about baptism so I would suggest to my child that they consider baptism by a Christian minister. Heck I think you can actually get them to do it at the hospital in a few minutes and it doesn't need to be whole ceremony. But if they refused, then I wouldn't try and get it done myself or badger them about it. Because in the end, logically I can understand that God would not deny a baby heaven bc they were not baptized. and yes I realize this contradicts and I am still entitle to my own belief

For bible stories, maybe it might be ok to read the Christmas and Easter story and just say that there are some people who practice the Christian religion and celebrate the holiday in a different way and this is the story about it. Nothing wrong with letting kids know how others celebrate various holidays. I wouldn't suggest it is a better or right way or that their family needed to start doing it. But before reading any such stories, I would check with my child to make sure they were ok with this approach and if not, then I wouldn't do it at all.

As long as my grandchild was being raised to be a good, kind, moral person it wouldn't matter to me if they attended church regularly or not.

Attending church services is not a competition. There are no winners or losers. Attending or not attending doesn't make someone any more or less Christian. It is their actions in their day to day lives that count.

Some rando baptizing your baby in the hospital is not going to be recognized by the Catholic church.

Actually yes, you can have a priest perform this if you are Catholic.

But please keep in mind other Christian religions celebrate baptism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, you do not baptize a kid without parental consent! That's an excellent way to lose access to your grandkids, among other things.

You should ask yourself why your adult children left the church. You should consider their values -- are they so different from yours, really? Are they good people, teaching their kids to be honest, kind, compassionate, etc.? Do you trust that you did a good job raising them?

NP. if you're an atheist and baptism means nothing to you, why do you care?

I would care because it fundamentally disrespects my rights to make decisions as a parent and steps over a boundary. What other boundary violations are going to happen in the future?

100%

I guess you want your kid to burn in hell.

Scare tactics don't work well with a lot of people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, you do not baptize a kid without parental consent! That's an excellent way to lose access to your grandkids, among other things.

You should ask yourself why your adult children left the church. You should consider their values -- are they so different from yours, really? Are they good people, teaching their kids to be honest, kind, compassionate, etc.? Do you trust that you did a good job raising them?

NP. if you're an atheist and baptism means nothing to you, why do you care?

I would care because it fundamentally disrespects my rights to make decisions as a parent and steps over a boundary. What other boundary violations are going to happen in the future?

Does it, though? What decision is being made? You think some water is being sprinkled, that's it. Not saying you're wrong to be upset, but I'm curious where the violation is coming into play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. It's typically because they were raised evangelical / fundie or strict Catholic. The grandkids will eventually find a church if they so choose and get baptized later in life.

Evangelicals don't baptize babies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. It's typically because they were raised evangelical / fundie or strict Catholic. The grandkids will eventually find a church if they so choose and get baptized later in life.

Evangelicals don't baptize babies.

Right -- and as far as Catholics are concerned, if one of those kids die, they go to hell. What do the evangelicals believe?

[Anonymous]

op is a troll, and not a grandparent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. It's typically because they were raised evangelical / fundie or strict Catholic. The grandkids will eventually find a church if they so choose and get baptized later in life.

Evangelicals don't baptize babies.

Right -- and as far as Catholics are concerned, if one of those kids die, they go to hell. What do the evangelicals believe?

I’m not a fan of Catholicism, but as a former Catholic I can tell you that this isn’t what they believe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, you do not baptize a kid without parental consent! That's an excellent way to lose access to your grandkids, among other things.

You should ask yourself why your adult children left the church. You should consider their values -- are they so different from yours, really? Are they good people, teaching their kids to be honest, kind, compassionate, etc.? Do you trust that you did a good job raising them?

NP. if you're an atheist and baptism means nothing to you, why do you care?

I would care because it fundamentally disrespects my rights to make decisions as a parent and steps over a boundary. What other boundary violations are going to happen in the future?

100%

I guess you want your kid to burn in hell.

I think the point is that they don't believe in hell.

Only the truly insane believe in hell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG, you do not baptize a kid without parental consent! That's an excellent way to lose access to your grandkids, among other things.

You should ask yourself why your adult children left the church. You should consider their values -- are they so different from yours, really? Are they good people, teaching their kids to be honest, kind, compassionate, etc.? Do you trust that you did a good job raising them?

NP. if you're an atheist and baptism means nothing to you, why do you care?

I would care because it fundamentally disrespects my rights to make decisions as a parent and steps over a boundary. What other boundary violations are going to happen in the future?

100%

I guess you want your kid to burn in hell.

what religion are you that you believe children burn in hell, or people burn in hell? What denomination?

[Anonymous]

Love this thread.

Sure let's bring our kiddies to the most likely place they will get abused.

Church...

And love all those bible thumpers putting their DD's in those kid beauty pageants. No sexualization of girls at all.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You had your chance to raise your children, now they are raising their own.

What drove me away from religion is the idea that "if you don't believe what I do, you will go to hell". I just couldn't get this idea of Heaven as a reward for obedience, and hell as punishment, to mesh with the loving God everyone was preaching about. I also couldn't imagine a loving God would sentence say, every Hindu in India, to hell.

pp, apparently you were in a fundamentalist church. There are many others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. It's typically because they were raised evangelical / fundie or strict Catholic. The grandkids will eventually find a church if they so choose and get baptized later in life.

Evangelicals don't baptize babies.

I think one group believes in post death baptism. Maybe grandma could do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone worry that their young grandkids are not baptized and taught in the church? Do you read bible stories to them? Baptize?

Do you want to see them again?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG, you do not baptize a kid without parental consent! That's an excellent way to lose access to your grandkids, among other things.

You should ask yourself why your adult children left the church. You should consider their values -- are they so different from yours, really? Are they good people, teaching their kids to be honest, kind, compassionate, etc.? Do you trust that you did a good job raising them?

NP. if you're an atheist and baptism means nothing to you, why do you care?

I would care because it fundamentally disrespects my rights to make decisions as a parent and steps over a boundary. What other boundary violations are going to happen in the future?

Does it, though? What decision is being made? You think some water is being sprinkled, that's it. Not saying you're wrong to be upset, but I'm curious where the violation is coming into play.

DP. It's a ritual I don't want my kids involved in. It is not a decision for grandparents to make.