Why are renters or people who live with their parents allowed to vote on matters of zoning &

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Anonymous wrote:Why do old people get to vote? They'll be dead by the time any development allowed by Thrive is implemented.

We have a lower age limit on voting. What about an upper age limit?

Well, I guess that it might be fair to give up representation as long as they also get to give up their taxation.

Renters pay taxes.

*whoosh*

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Anonymous wrote:I would more annoyed at the 25yr old kids who live in their parent's basement voting versus renters.

+1

25 year olds living in their parents' basements have the most on the line with regards to "zoning &" as these decisions will affect them for much longer than the 75 yo who wants to make sure their community stays the same as it has been for the forty years they've lived there.

So it's not surprising that folks don't want them to vote.

Under employed, Daria types have nothing “on the line” and should not be listened to about anything important.

Sadly for you, that’s just a fantasy you created in your head and they will continue to vote.

-GenX homeowner

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How has this fascist stupidity ejaculation by the OP spawned 4 pages? Can we please ignore the idiots on all sides of the spectrum?

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Anonymous wrote:I think this post was a parody but the YIMBYs are taking it seriously? I guess searching for things to be offended by is easier/more entertaining than getting housing built.

Why would you think that? I have heard plenty of people express this opinion, at public meetings, in real life.

I go to more than my share of public meetings and have not heard this view espoused a single time. Show me a transcript from a government meeting in the Washington metropolitan area where someone advocates disenfranchising renters.

What government meetings do you go to that have published transcripts?

Video is fine too as long as you provide the time stamp.

What government meetings (for the public) do you go to that have posted videos with time stamps?

Montgomery County, MD does.
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/COUNCIL/OnDemand/index.html

Yeah, that's for if you want to watch the Montgomery County Council. There are a lot of meetings in Montgomery County where members of the public speak that aren't Montgomery County Council meetings.

So you are claiming that there are “government meetings” that are not Council meetings where people are saying that renters should not be allowed the right to vote but those meetings are not recorded? Right…………

What I said: "I have heard plenty of people express this opinion, at public meetings, in real life."

What meetings are those?

Community association meetings, HOA meetings, public outreach meetings, meet-the-candidate meetings, etc. People have also said various jaw-dropping things on the record at formal public hearings, of course.

You attend both community association meetings and HOA meetings? Right…..

Not on the same evening, obviously.

Nice fantasy. If you have a community association then you don’t have a HOA. Also, neither a community association nor an HOA meeting would be a public meeting. Have any other stories?

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Anonymous wrote:How has this fascist stupidity ejaculation by the OP spawned 4 pages? Can we please ignore the idiots on all sides of the spectrum?

If living in your parents basement pisses you off so much, how about learning some tangible skills and getting some therapy so that you can have the technical and social skills to hold down a job so you can get your own place?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the OP was a false flag from a YIMBY

Yes, the YIMBYs are having a big pro Missing Middle or Expanded Hosing Options rally for Affordable Housing or Attainable Housing in Arlington on Saturday. Many of the people who support MM or EHO in Arlington are younger renters who think Arlington should make it possible for them to have a $1.3 M townhouse in a neighborhood zoned for predominantly white schools rather than a $1.3 M townhouses in a neighborhood where the schools are more diverse.

This is absolutely what it’s all about.

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Anonymous wrote:You’re right, only property owners should vote. /s

+1. Why has nobody thought of this before?

Ha! Thanks for the chuckle.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this post was a parody but the YIMBYs are taking it seriously? I guess searching for things to be offended by is easier/more entertaining than getting housing built.

Why would you think that? I have heard plenty of people express this opinion, at public meetings, in real life.

I go to more than my share of public meetings and have not heard this view espoused a single time. Show me a transcript from a government meeting in the Washington metropolitan area where someone advocates disenfranchising renters.

What government meetings do you go to that have published transcripts?

Video is fine too as long as you provide the time stamp.

What government meetings (for the public) do you go to that have posted videos with time stamps?

Montgomery County, MD does.
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/COUNCIL/OnDemand/index.html

Yeah, that's for if you want to watch the Montgomery County Council. There are a lot of meetings in Montgomery County where members of the public speak that aren't Montgomery County Council meetings.

So you are claiming that there are “government meetings” that are not Council meetings where people are saying that renters should not be allowed the right to vote but those meetings are not recorded? Right…………

What I said: "I have heard plenty of people express this opinion, at public meetings, in real life."

What meetings are those?

Community association meetings, HOA meetings, public outreach meetings, meet-the-candidate meetings, etc. People have also said various jaw-dropping things on the record at formal public hearings, of course.

You attend both community association meetings and HOA meetings? Right…..

Not on the same evening, obviously.

Nice fantasy. If you have a community association then you don’t have a HOA. Also, neither a community association nor an HOA meeting would be a public meeting. Have any other stories?

This statement is factually incorrect.

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Anonymous wrote:How has this fascist stupidity ejaculation by the OP spawned 4 pages? Can we please ignore the idiots on all sides of the spectrum?

If living in your parents basement pisses you off so much, how about learning some tangible skills and getting some therapy so that you can have the technical and social skills to hold down a job so you can get your own place?

Drinking at 6:30 am?

I don't think there are many 25-year-olds posting on DCUM, regardless of their housing situation.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this post was a parody but the YIMBYs are taking it seriously? I guess searching for things to be offended by is easier/more entertaining than getting housing built.

Why would you think that? I have heard plenty of people express this opinion, at public meetings, in real life.

I go to more than my share of public meetings and have not heard this view espoused a single time. Show me a transcript from a government meeting in the Washington metropolitan area where someone advocates disenfranchising renters.

What government meetings do you go to that have published transcripts?

Video is fine too as long as you provide the time stamp.

What government meetings (for the public) do you go to that have posted videos with time stamps?

Montgomery County, MD does.
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/COUNCIL/OnDemand/index.html

Yeah, that's for if you want to watch the Montgomery County Council. There are a lot of meetings in Montgomery County where members of the public speak that aren't Montgomery County Council meetings.

So you are claiming that there are “government meetings” that are not Council meetings where people are saying that renters should not be allowed the right to vote but those meetings are not recorded? Right…………

What I said: "I have heard plenty of people express this opinion, at public meetings, in real life."

What meetings are those?

Community association meetings, HOA meetings, public outreach meetings, meet-the-candidate meetings, etc. People have also said various jaw-dropping things on the record at formal public hearings, of course.

You attend both community association meetings and HOA meetings? Right…..

Not on the same evening, obviously.

Nice fantasy. If you have a community association then you don’t have a HOA. Also, neither a community association nor an HOA meeting would be a public meeting. Have any other stories?

This statement is factually incorrect.

Okay, where do you live that has both a community association and HOA?

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Anonymous wrote:I think this post was a parody but the YIMBYs are taking it seriously? I guess searching for things to be offended by is easier/more entertaining than getting housing built.

Why would you think that? I have heard plenty of people express this opinion, at public meetings, in real life.

I go to more than my share of public meetings and have not heard this view espoused a single time. Show me a transcript from a government meeting in the Washington metropolitan area where someone advocates disenfranchising renters.

What government meetings do you go to that have published transcripts?

Video is fine too as long as you provide the time stamp.

What government meetings (for the public) do you go to that have posted videos with time stamps?

Montgomery County, MD does.
https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/COUNCIL/OnDemand/index.html

Yeah, that's for if you want to watch the Montgomery County Council. There are a lot of meetings in Montgomery County where members of the public speak that aren't Montgomery County Council meetings.

So you are claiming that there are “government meetings” that are not Council meetings where people are saying that renters should not be allowed the right to vote but those meetings are not recorded? Right…………

What I said: "I have heard plenty of people express this opinion, at public meetings, in real life."

What meetings are those?

Community association meetings, HOA meetings, public outreach meetings, meet-the-candidate meetings, etc. People have also said various jaw-dropping things on the record at formal public hearings, of course.

You attend both community association meetings and HOA meetings? Right…..

Not on the same evening, obviously.

Nice fantasy. If you have a community association then you don’t have a HOA. Also, neither a community association nor an HOA meeting would be a public meeting. Have any other stories?

This statement is factually incorrect.

Okay, where do you live that has both a community association and HOA?

https://mcatlas.org/viewer/
on the left, click the box for "civic and home owner associations"

However, you're also operating on faulty assumptions, including:

1. the only people who ever go to a community association or HOA meeting are residents of that community association or HOA
2. people never move

When you go to a lot of meetings attended by members of the public, you quickly learn that members of the public say a lot of things you wouldn't have thought anybody even believed, let alone would say in public.

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Impossible to tell who's serious versus sarcasm in this thread.

That says a lot, but I'm not sure I could tell you what that is.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the OP was a false flag from a YIMBY

Yes, the YIMBYs are having a big pro Missing Middle or Expanded Hosing Options rally for Affordable Housing or Attainable Housing in Arlington on Saturday. Many of the people who support MM or EHO in Arlington are younger renters who think Arlington should make it possible for them to have a $1.3 M townhouse in a neighborhood zoned for predominantly white schools rather than a $1.3 M townhouses in a neighborhood where the schools are more diverse.

Sounds like you haven’t talked to any missing middle supporters. Or, you know, read the basic documentation. Then you know that what’s actually getting supporters excited is the prospect of $500 k to $600 k homes in multiplexes where everything else nearby is $1 M or more. Housing in our whitest neighborhoods is also, not coincidently, incredibly expensive. Supporters envision fourplexes and sixplexes smack in the middle of Lyon Village, with missing middle homes costing a fraction of the neighboring houses. Imagine making 120% of the area median income but affording a home that lets you send your kids to Jamestown! Really opens up possibilities.

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Anonymous wrote:Yep, when my tenant pays rent I just keep it all for myself for Starbucks and avocado toast.

I have a whole separate pool of money that I use to pay property taxes on the property that I rent out.

Therefore I am paying taxes and my tenant is not, and should have no say in local public affairs.

Ridiculous. You are supposed to pass on the taxes. You are dumb and bad at land lording.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm assuming the OP was a false flag from a YIMBY

Yes, the YIMBYs are having a big pro Missing Middle or Expanded Hosing Options rally for Affordable Housing or Attainable Housing in Arlington on Saturday. Many of the people who support MM or EHO in Arlington are younger renters who think Arlington should make it possible for them to have a $1.3 M townhouse in a neighborhood zoned for predominantly white schools rather than a $1.3 M townhouses in a neighborhood where the schools are more diverse.

Sounds like you haven’t talked to any missing middle supporters. Or, you know, read the basic documentation. Then you know that what’s actually getting supporters excited is the prospect of $500 k to $600 k homes in multiplexes where everything else nearby is $1 M or more. Housing in our whitest neighborhoods is also, not coincidently, incredibly expensive. Supporters envision fourplexes and sixplexes smack in the middle of Lyon Village, with missing middle homes costing a fraction of the neighboring houses. Imagine making 120% of the area median income but affording a home that lets you send your kids to Jamestown! Really opens up possibilities.

But wait, it gets even better. Once those slumlord multiplexes start to go up (because that’s what will be developed), those homes won’t be worth $1M for long!