I don't want to do "DEI Work" at work

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s uncomfortable, a distraction, and unpleasant. Which is exactly how your non-white/gay/whatever colleagues may well feel about the crap that they deal with every day in the workplace.

But truly, what?? People are treated as people at my workplace. They don't deal with any crap that's different from the rest of us.

White supremacy culture. Perfectionism, punctuality, etc. These are all standards for the workplace created by whites that contribute to harming minorities.

What tortured mental gymnastics. So POC should be allowed to be 3 hours late or it is “white supremacy?” You are deranged.

DP but I think they were joking. Hope so, at least!

[Anonymous]

Yeah -- I hate it too. - Indian American liberal. I just hate HR trainings on culture. It's like an oxymoron. Watch the Office episode on this circa 2005. Classic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s uncomfortable, a distraction, and unpleasant. Which is exactly how your non-white/gay/whatever colleagues may well feel about the crap that they deal with every day in the workplace.

But truly, what?? People are treated as people at my workplace. They don't deal with any crap that's different from the rest of us.

White supremacy culture. Perfectionism, punctuality, etc. These are all standards for the workplace created by whites that contribute to harming minorities.

What tortured mental gymnastics. So POC should be allowed to be 3 hours late or it is “white supremacy?” You are deranged.

DP but I think they were joking. Hope so, at least!

Yes, there is some racist B on this board who is obsessed with DEI topics. She doesn’t have any actual arguments she can articulate so all she does is try to mock and ridicule in bad-faith. She should be ordered to undergo sensitivity training.

[Anonymous]

Just don’t do it. Keep doing your real job above and beyond and you’ll be good.

[Anonymous]

I do a little DEI work and work closely with a number of DEI consultants (some much better than others). One reality of DEI work is that when a company or organization chooses to value it and "push it" among their workforce, there will absolutely be people who push back to various degrees, don't participate, or find it problematic/unpleasant/not worth it. And most of the time, if the organization is being consistent and not performative, those people find their way out either on their own or because their value/culture-conflict begins to impact their work and ability to interact well with colleagues negatively.

So, looks like some people here need to find a new job.

[Anonymous]

Love how OP "doesn't want to do DEI at work" and how that's basically the same as people who "don't want to feel marginalized or discriminated against at work." Except those people have no choice, and OP has no idea their view is offensive.

This entire post is a microagression.

[Anonymous]

The DEI training my small company used was pretty easy to complete. It took maybe 3 hours total over a few days.

Each employee had to watch some videos and then answer questions. If you got questions wrong, they explained why your answer was wrong.

It was basically a Pass/Fail course and the only way to fail was to not even complete it. Passing didn't even require a % grade on any of the quizzes.

[Anonymous]

It’s on trend and has trickled down to the even small, irrelevant entities who want to seem “with it” or have been advised by law firms to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I do a little DEI work and work closely with a number of DEI consultants (some much better than others). One reality of DEI work is that when a company or organization chooses to value it and "push it" among their workforce, there will absolutely be people who push back to various degrees, don't participate, or find it problematic/unpleasant/not worth it. And most of the time, if the organization is being consistent and not performative, those people find their way out either on their own or because their value/culture-conflict begins to impact their work and ability to interact well with colleagues negatively.

So, looks like some people here need to find a new job.

Often, or at least sometimes, it's not really the company leadership who chooses to value it and push it among their workforce; instead, it's the ladies in HR or the new DEI hire that the company made just to virtue signal to the masses. As you say, these companies are being performative only and most employees can just ride it out and wait for the hysteria to blow over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love how OP "doesn't want to do DEI at work" and how that's basically the same as people who "don't want to feel marginalized or discriminated against at work." Except those people have no choice, and OP has no idea their view is offensive.

This entire post is a microagression.

Sincere question, but have you been discriminated against at work? What happened?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s uncomfortable, a distraction, and unpleasant. Which is exactly how your non-white/gay/whatever colleagues may well feel about the crap that they deal with every day in the workplace.

But truly, what?? People are treated as people at my workplace. They don't deal with any crap that's different from the rest of us.

White supremacy culture. Perfectionism, punctuality, etc. These are all standards for the workplace created by whites that contribute to harming minorities.

+1. Also performance metrics. Another invention of the white supremacists to suppress minorities.

This is the shit I can’t get behind. Performance metrics were created to suppress minorities? Performance metrics evaluate whether you’re meeting the expectations of your job.

Yes, but the metrics themselves are often racist and discriminatory. E.g., maybe a salesperson is not a top seller but they contribute in other ways to the office.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, it’s uncomfortable, a distraction, and unpleasant. Which is exactly how your non-white/gay/whatever colleagues may well feel about the crap that they deal with every day in the workplace.

But truly, what?? People are treated as people at my workplace. They don't deal with any crap that's different from the rest of us.

White supremacy culture. Perfectionism, punctuality, etc. These are all standards for the workplace created by whites that contribute to harming minorities.

+1. Also performance metrics. Another invention of the white supremacists to suppress minorities.

This is the shit I can’t get behind. Performance metrics were created to suppress minorities? Performance metrics evaluate whether you’re meeting the expectations of your job.

Yes, but the metrics themselves are often racist and discriminatory. E.g., maybe a salesperson is not a top seller but they contribute in other ways to the office.

I'm the PP that wrote about metrics and it's exactly this. Notice all the racist white people that jumped down my throat when I posted that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do a little DEI work and work closely with a number of DEI consultants (some much better than others). One reality of DEI work is that when a company or organization chooses to value it and "push it" among their workforce, there will absolutely be people who push back to various degrees, don't participate, or find it problematic/unpleasant/not worth it. And most of the time, if the organization is being consistent and not performative, those people find their way out either on their own or because their value/culture-conflict begins to impact their work and ability to interact well with colleagues negatively.

So, looks like some people here need to find a new job.

Often, or at least sometimes, it's not really the company leadership who chooses to value it and push it among their workforce; instead, it's the ladies in HR or the new DEI hire that the company made just to virtue signal to the masses. As you say, these companies are being performative only and most employees can just ride it out and wait for the hysteria to blow over.

Your insistence across multiple threads that DEI initiatives aren’t genuine and are worthy of ridicule is so tiresome.

Do you even have a job?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love how OP "doesn't want to do DEI at work" and how that's basically the same as people who "don't want to feel marginalized or discriminated against at work." Except those people have no choice, and OP has no idea their view is offensive.

This entire post is a microagression.

There’s nothing micro about it.

OP is a whiny loser who doesn’t want to feel uncomfortable learning some things she very clearly needs to learn. Too bad. Boo boo for you. Shape up or ship out. Get with the program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Love how OP "doesn't want to do DEI at work" and how that's basically the same as people who "don't want to feel marginalized or discriminated against at work." Except those people have no choice, and OP has no idea their view is offensive.

This entire post is a microagression.

Sincere question, but have you been discriminated against at work? What happened?

I'm a white straight female who is objectively attractive and smart. So, no. But I've been made to feel uncomfortable.

I'm not the person you should be directing this question to.