Active shooter Michigan State

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Anonymous wrote:How about we start holding the idiots who actually DO the shooting responsible instead of casting blame to those who are not at fault?

Is that too hard to do? Does it not push the proper political narrative to do this?


Please take your toxic gun-loving energy elsewhere.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How about we start holding the idiots who actually DO the shooting responsible instead of casting blame to those who are not at fault?

Is that too hard to do? Does it not push the proper political narrative to do this?


F off NRA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How about we start holding the idiots who actually DO the shooting responsible instead of casting blame to those who are not at fault?

Is that too hard to do? Does it not push the proper political narrative to do this?


Ah, so you wait until more people are slaughtered and then you arrest the shooters. Got it. No need for prevention of gun massacres, even though there are mountains of evidence that show how other countries are able to prevent more gun deaths. Maybe you are OK with having your babies murdered by a gunman so long as the shooter is incarcerated, but I prefer that my own children never be shot at in the first place.
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21-year-old MSU student has now been through TWO mass school shootings in her short life. She was a student at Sandy Hook 10 years ago,

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Anonymous wrote:Being a mass shooter is a cowardly act.

The best response to these incidents is to not even mention the shooters. Don't give them even one minute of fame. Don't try to understand their motivations and realize that discussing mass shootings leads to more copycats.


This.

And heavily regulate guns/ammo, including bans on certain types of guns. Easy access is the main issue here.
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I blame the following:

Lauren Boebert
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Mitch McConnell
Charlie Kirk
Tucker Carlson
DeSantis


Ah, yes. I am sure that the disgusting shooter was a big fan of theirs.


I blame them but there's so many dynamics at work and it's the American culture. The gun lobby would not have legitimacy if it weren't for all the folks who back them. The American culture is one of independence and the me me me only me tradition. We saw it during COVID, we see it demonstrated by how privatized for-profit healthcare is run, we see it in so many ways. It's not a civilized society. Everything about how a country is doing is interconnected be it financial, cultural, etc. The problems we have is all about not caring about each other enough and politically, about too many issues at hand that everyone wants a piece of. It's not just the legislative branch at work - its the fans who support the gun lobby and they in turn pressure the politicians into doing their will. There are also Dems who support them and Republicans who support gun right limits. The thing is - we don't have a culture that supports a healthy society. Frankly, I don't think legislation at this point will actually do much as I think there's just too many guns out there in the wrong hands and too many attitudes that need to be changed but never will be. I think that we have to keep going and let it get to a point where it's so crazy even the people who thought this would be OK isn't. I give it another 5 years or so though.


I agree. We're beyond fixing this illness with laws. Our country is literally flooded with guns. We now have to live with what we created.
My best friend's daughter is at MSU. Was on her to way to meet her roommate at the student union. Her roommate was already there and experienced the whole thing. Both traumatized now. So what did my friend's BIL, her daughter's uncle, do this morning? Post on Facebook on everyone's right to bear arms. After my friend received alert after alert after alert from MSU last night, going through every parent's nightmare. This is where we're wrong. Even when it becomes personal, where your selfishness is apparent and you finally get it, we're still not getting it.


100000% agree with both of you.

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Anonymous wrote:The shooter or his motivations are not important. The dorms at MSU are as safe as any dorm in the US. The student union is fairly open - as it should be- but we are now going to spend 48 hours talking about how to harden the campus more and how EL police and campus police were too busy issuing parking tickets and could have responded faster (even though they responded quickly) instead of talking about guns. And then we will move onto the college in your hometown or someone else’s. Instead of talking about guns.


At my kid's college you have to swipe your student ID in order to get into most buildings on campus. But that said, locking down campuses doesn't solve the problem. We need to stop the shooters. ANYONE with even the slightest history of domestic violence or mental illness or anything else like it should be barred from buying or owning guns.

2 weeks ago 5th Circuit affirmed the constitutional right to own and carry guns even in the case of people with domestic abuse restraining orders against them. This is a fall out from last year’s SCt case and, of course, guns.


This campus shooting is sponsored by Samuel J. Alito.


When you look at the environmental devastation in Oho and shootings like this, we are seeing the dystopian world the GOP wants for our country. It is simply astounding that a larger minority of the people of the United States WANT this.


Yep.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Shooter is a felon thus not a legal gun owner https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/02/14/msu-shooter-anthony-mcrae-a-convicted-felon-with-weapons-history/69901983007/


This has been updated. He’s not a felon. He was barred from gun ownership during probation, not forever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:21-year-old MSU student has now been through TWO mass school shootings in her short life. She was a student at Sandy Hook 10 years ago,



omg. this just got to me. how heartbreaking. I can't imagine how she and her parents/family are feeling.

I never thought I'd want to have my daughter be homeschooled, and ask the shoppers at Buffalo grocery store how that isn't relevant, but my God - it is just a helpless and hopeless situation we are in in America. what the actual f*ck?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Being a mass shooter is a cowardly act.

The best response to these incidents is to not even mention the shooters. Don't give them even one minute of fame. Don't try to understand their motivations and realize that discussing mass shootings leads to more copycats.


Then why does someone keep posting every one of these shooters all over DCUM, every damn time? There are already like 3 threads on this.
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Any talk of a motive for this terror attack?
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Interview with the shooter’s father. The father sounds like a good man who tried to do the right thing. His son had depression and was not getting it treated. Classic case of mental illness and no supports.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna70579
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Anonymous wrote:Any talk of a motive for this terror attack?


Depression after the death of the shooter’s mother.
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Anonymous wrote:Any talk of a motive for this terror attack?


Depression after the death of the shooter’s mother.


That's not a motive. That's a mood disorder. But why shoot up the school. Did he hate the school, former employee, racially motivated? Any news org see his social media?
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Anonymous wrote:Any talk of a motive for this terror attack?


Depression after the death of the shooter’s mother.


Poor baby. Let’s give him a ninth chance.
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