Active shooter Michigan State

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I blame the following:

Lauren Boebert
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Mitch McConnell
Charlie Kirk
Tucker Carlson
DeSantis

Ah, yes. I am sure that the disgusting shooter was a big fan of theirs.

I blame them but there's so many dynamics at work and it's the American culture. The gun lobby would not have legitimacy if it weren't for all the folks who back them. The American culture is one of independence and the me me me only me tradition. We saw it during COVID, we see it demonstrated by how privatized for-profit healthcare is run, we see it in so many ways. It's not a civilized society. Everything about how a country is doing is interconnected be it financial, cultural, etc. The problems we have is all about not caring about each other enough and politically, about too many issues at hand that everyone wants a piece of. It's not just the legislative branch at work - its the fans who support the gun lobby and they in turn pressure the politicians into doing their will. There are also Dems who support them and Republicans who support gun right limits. The thing is - we don't have a culture that supports a healthy society. Frankly, I don't think legislation at this point will actually do much as I think there's just too many guns out there in the wrong hands and too many attitudes that need to be changed but never will be. I think that we have to keep going and let it get to a point where it's so crazy even the people who thought this would be OK isn't. I give it another 5 years or so though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I blame the following:

Lauren Boebert
Marjorie Taylor Greene
Mitch McConnell
Charlie Kirk
Tucker Carlson
DeSantis

Ah, yes. I am sure that the disgusting shooter was a big fan of theirs.

I blame them but there's so many dynamics at work and it's the American culture. The gun lobby would not have legitimacy if it weren't for all the folks who back them. The American culture is one of independence and the me me me only me tradition. We saw it during COVID, we see it demonstrated by how privatized for-profit healthcare is run, we see it in so many ways. It's not a civilized society. Everything about how a country is doing is interconnected be it financial, cultural, etc. The problems we have is all about not caring about each other enough and politically, about too many issues at hand that everyone wants a piece of. It's not just the legislative branch at work - its the fans who support the gun lobby and they in turn pressure the politicians into doing their will. There are also Dems who support them and Republicans who support gun right limits. The thing is - we don't have a culture that supports a healthy society. Frankly, I don't think legislation at this point will actually do much as I think there's just too many guns out there in the wrong hands and too many attitudes that need to be changed but never will be. I think that we have to keep going and let it get to a point where it's so crazy even the people who thought this would be OK isn't. I give it another 5 years or so though.

I agree. We're beyond fixing this illness with laws. Our country is literally flooded with guns. We now have to live with what we created.
My best friend's daughter is at MSU. Was on her to way to meet her roommate at the student union. Her roommate was already there and experienced the whole thing. Both traumatized now. So what did my friend's BIL, her daughter's uncle, do this morning? Post on Facebook on everyone's right to bear arms. After my friend received alert after alert after alert from MSU last night, going through every parent's nightmare. This is where we're wrong. Even when it becomes personal, where your selfishness is apparent and you finally get it, we're still not getting it.

[Anonymous]

Repeal the second amendment.

[Anonymous]

Shooter is a felon thus not a legal gun owner https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/02/14/msu-shooter-anthony-mcrae-a-convicted-felon-with-weapons-history/69901983007/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shooter is a felon thus not a legal gun owner https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/02/14/msu-shooter-anthony-mcrae-a-convicted-felon-with-weapons-history/69901983007/

Completely irrelevant. EVERY gun starts out legal. Someone buys it, either through the proper channels or not. We have inundated this country with guns, manufacturing them at a rapid pace. It's not that hard to get one illegally or to evade these "felon" restrictions. It's a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shooter is a felon thus not a legal gun owner https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/02/14/msu-shooter-anthony-mcrae-a-convicted-felon-with-weapons-history/69901983007/

Completely irrelevant. EVERY gun starts out legal. Someone buys it, either through the proper channels or not. We have inundated this country with guns, manufacturing them at a rapid pace. It's not that hard to get one illegally or to evade these "felon" restrictions. It's a joke.

s admit you want gun confiscation which means you want the right to privacy suspended as they will need to search every home and without probable cause otherwise only criminals will have guns

[Anonymous]

After 20 dead 6yos at Newtown 10 years ago, and complete inaction upon seeing tiny children mowed down by a madman with an AR-15, I realized that no tragedy in this country could make us change our ways. Everything since has just proven that right.
This will never change. The proliferation of guns in our society is too great, and there’s no going back from it now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shooter is a felon thus not a legal gun owner https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/02/14/msu-shooter-anthony-mcrae-a-convicted-felon-with-weapons-history/69901983007/

Completely irrelevant. EVERY gun starts out legal. Someone buys it, either through the proper channels or not. We have inundated this country with guns, manufacturing them at a rapid pace. It's not that hard to get one illegally or to evade these "felon" restrictions. It's a joke.

s admit you want gun confiscation which means you want the right to privacy suspended as they will need to search every home and without probable cause otherwise only criminals will have guns

WTAF are you blathering about? Where do you get invasion of privacy and gun confiscation from that post??? Not stated nor implied. But your gun nuts are showing.

[Anonymous]

How about we start holding the idiots who actually DO the shooting responsible instead of casting blame to those who are not at fault?

Is that too hard to do? Does it not push the proper political narrative to do this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How about we start holding the idiots who actually DO the shooting responsible instead of casting blame to those who are not at fault?

Is that too hard to do? Does it not push the proper political narrative to do this?

Dems using this for An “assault weapon” ban despite the shooter using a handgun and bring a felon in position

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shooter is a felon thus not a legal gun owner https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/02/14/msu-shooter-anthony-mcrae-a-convicted-felon-with-weapons-history/69901983007/

Completely irrelevant. EVERY gun starts out legal. Someone buys it, either through the proper channels or not. We have inundated this country with guns, manufacturing them at a rapid pace. It's not that hard to get one illegally or to evade these "felon" restrictions. It's a joke.

s admit you want gun confiscation which means you want the right to privacy suspended as they will need to search every home and without probable cause otherwise only criminals will have guns

DP. Ask the parents in Uvalde just how much good it did for non-criminals to have guns that day.
I used to fall for the “good guy with a gun” BS. Not anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How about we start holding the idiots who actually DO the shooting responsible instead of casting blame to those who are not at fault?

Is that too hard to do? Does it not push the proper political narrative to do this?

Dems using this for An “assault weapon” ban despite the shooter using a handgun and bring a felon in position

"Bring a felon in position" ... to do what?

So you're in favor of handgun repeals too?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shooter is a felon thus not a legal gun owner https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/02/14/msu-shooter-anthony-mcrae-a-convicted-felon-with-weapons-history/69901983007/

Completely irrelevant. EVERY gun starts out legal. Someone buys it, either through the proper channels or not. We have inundated this country with guns, manufacturing them at a rapid pace. It's not that hard to get one illegally or to evade these "felon" restrictions. It's a joke.

s admit you want gun confiscation which means you want the right to privacy suspended as they will need to search every home and without probable cause otherwise only criminals will have guns

DP. Ask the parents in Uvalde just how much good it did for non-criminals to have guns that day.
I used to fall for the “good guy with a gun” BS. Not anymore.

You know damn well that what happened in Uvalde was an anomaly when it comes to how law enforcement responds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shooter is a felon thus not a legal gun owner https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/02/14/msu-shooter-anthony-mcrae-a-convicted-felon-with-weapons-history/69901983007/

Completely irrelevant. EVERY gun starts out legal. Someone buys it, either through the proper channels or not. We have inundated this country with guns, manufacturing them at a rapid pace. It's not that hard to get one illegally or to evade these "felon" restrictions. It's a joke.

s admit you want gun confiscation which means you want the right to privacy suspended as they will need to search every home and without probable cause otherwise only criminals will have guns

DP. Ask the parents in Uvalde just how much good it did for non-criminals to have guns that day.
I used to fall for the “good guy with a gun” BS. Not anymore.

You know damn well that what happened in Uvalde was an anomaly when it comes to how law enforcement responds.

We do not know that damn well. Police are afraid of all these weapons and rightly so. Too many guns all day everyday. its madness. F the NRA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Shooter is a felon thus not a legal gun owner https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2023/02/14/msu-shooter-anthony-mcrae-a-convicted-felon-with-weapons-history/69901983007/

Completely irrelevant. EVERY gun starts out legal. Someone buys it, either through the proper channels or not. We have inundated this country with guns, manufacturing them at a rapid pace. It's not that hard to get one illegally or to evade these "felon" restrictions. It's a joke.

s admit you want gun confiscation which means you want the right to privacy suspended as they will need to search every home and without probable cause otherwise only criminals will have guns

DP. Ask the parents in Uvalde just how much good it did for non-criminals to have guns that day.
I used to fall for the “good guy with a gun” BS. Not anymore.

You know damn well that what happened in Uvalde was an anomaly when it comes to how law enforcement responds.

Uvalde was not an anomaly. It was the nightmare that many anti-gun citizens knew could come to life, and did.