It enrages some people that these drugs are a cure for obesity for some people. I don’t know why — they are obviously mental. These are the same types of people who get angry at the thought of welfare and food stamps going to people of color. |
Quite the opposite. Having lower blood sugar is linked to a huge improvement in health outcomes long term. Reduced risk of cardiovascular disease, diabetes (obviously) and even possibly Alzheimer’s. Plus a reduction in body weight sometimes encourages other healthy habits. Eating high fat/high sugar on semaflutide can increase the undesirable side effects so many ppl end up eating less and also staying away from sugary processed things. Thought experiment: if someone who had struggles to quit smoking was able to with the help of a drug would you be this negative? What about naltrexone for alcohol abuse? There is a morality associated with weight that goes very deep—unconscious or not many ppl associated being fat with laziness, lack of work ethic. Etc and thus the only acceptable way to lose weight is through struggle. But the decks are stacked against many obese people, betweeen crappy food everywhere pushed by big food, hormones, gut changes etc. there is a tool that helps get us out of the obesity crisis and there should be no shame in using it. And btw I am not the target audience, but am very interested in how this might work. I have a child with a real food compulsion. We have a normal healthy family food dynamic—try not to make thingsb off limits but also strive for whole unprocessed balanced diets with no soda or true junk —-but this child has always been really food and sugar oriented and has a large appetite and high cholesterol and slightly high blood sugar for her age. It’s possible that it’s due to her birth circumstances (iugr baby who was very underweight/growth restricted and did not get adequate nutrition I in womb, which can correlate to lifetime changes in metabolism with higher risk of T2 diabetes, PCOS and other metabolic syndromes.. While I hope she can remain healthy without medication I will be glad to know that the science here is advancing swiftly so she has a better chance of addressing issues. |
You’re making a huge assumption about what people think. Just because you lose weight doesn’t mean you’re healthy, period. It’s very similar to when people go on meds for anxiety, depression, but don’t do the therapy work. It’s a Band-Aid. |
Okay, losing weight is not necessarily going to make you healthy on its own. But guess what, being obese is a huge barrier to health. Why not remove that barrier and then focus on the next? Not everyone is going to do Orange theory and eat kale and salmon daily, but if you can get a huge swath of people to go from a BMI of 35 to BMI 24 you are going to reduce a huge number of health issues on a major scale. Again, this whole "well its still not HEALTHY" is a red herring. Think about this in epidemiological terms--how to get the greatest number of people healthier in this country is to address obesity. Point blank. |
Right. I feel like cholesterol/blood pressure drugs are the obvious analogy. Like, having low cholesterol alone does not make you healthy. But having high cholesterol is dangerous for your health and the drugs help. Should we not give people cholesterol medication because it's just a "band-aid"? |
Preach it! I get on my knees every might and thank Jesus for the medication every night! Thank you Lord! You have delivered me from this weight and Mfs like the above. |
No one is suggesting that we give up on these medications. The OP is complaining that it’s not working, yet Doesn’t make any changes to exercise or diet. There’s an obvious answer for OP... |
Do you say the same thing to people who eat low carb/keto to lose weight quickly? Just because they lose weight doesn’t mean they’re healthy, but you’re not telling them they’re taking a shortcut or the easy way out or whatever. |
Definitely with Ozempic people complain about constipation much more than about diarrhea! I take 1000 mg metformin daily (has never given me diarrhea) along with my 7.5 mg Mounjaro weekly. Is your doctor concerned about an A1C of 5.8? |
I have a similar kid, although she was 10.5# at birth rather than IUGR. I see the same patterns I had when I was young -- so sugar and carbs driven. We don't buy any soda or junk food but she loves to cook herself lunches with white rice, etc., bake desserts, etc. so unless I declare us a sugar and carb-free household and never buy rice or flour again, it's hopeless. She's also in HS with an open lunch so she can just go buy a rice bowl or whatever. The amazing thing about semaglutide (and now tirzepatide because I'm taking Mounjaro) is how it's quieted the food obsessions in my head. I just. don't. care. about sweets anymore -- I'm not driven to eat it. I have a bite of chocolate and I'm done. Or I leave the chocolate in the cupboard and don't even think about it. It's truly liberating to be able to have the food monkeys out of my brain. |
Of course not! Ketoers can be mainlining eggs and red meat but no one tells them they're losing weight the wrong way. Because they are suitably depriving themselves, and therefore it is an acceptable way for them to lose weight. It's about punishment. Fat people can only become thin if it's painful or requires deprivation and sacrifice , as a punishment for their gluttony. Ozempic is just too easy. |
I was on Mounjaro and it took awhile to work and I was a slow loser, but eventually lost 35 lbs over 4ish months until my savings card stopped working. |
I’ve lost about 5 pounds in 3 weeks on ozempic. Zero appetite suppression but I’ve been make food changes and joined WW while I wait for it to kick in. I’m still not eating super healthy, but making small changes likes meal prepping and eating at home. |
3+ weeks on Wegovy (.25 dose) and I have lost 8 pounds. More importantly, my doctor took me off one of my bp pills and reduced the dosage of a second one. I haven't noticed any appetite suppression yet at this dose, but I am following a 1200 cal. diet under medical supervision. I've also stopped drinking. I see the meds as a tool to be used in conjunction with diet + exercise, not something that will let me eat whatever I want, just less of it. I will have to change my eating (and drinking) habits for the rest of my life to take and keep weight off--regardless of whether I take medication. |
influencers and all kinds of women have been doing crazy stuff forever to stay thin. Doctors regularly prescribed speed back in the day. Bulimia is still very common in the celebrity set. Women, and increasingly more men, will do absolutely crazy things to stay thin. You'd be stunned by how many non obese women I know in the suburbs who've had one of the gastric surgeries. |