What pathway after Honors Geometry in 8th grade?

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Anonymous wrote:Do students have to take 4 years of Math in high school, especially if they are far advanced. My DD is great at math but has no desire to be an engineer, scientist, or doctor and doesn't see the need for Calc BC etc... in junior/senior year.

I was able to take two sciences in instead of a math course when I was a senior in high school. Took Honors A&P which really helped with my nursing courses in college.

MCPS requires four credits of math + math every year in high school. (These requirements may actually be Maryland requirements.) So one can not say "I started Algebra in seventh grade, so after tenth grade I can stop taking math." Some students skip Calc BC and instead take Stats or Calc with applications ...

Sorry but this BLOWS - don't like it all. They should require up until Pre-Calc or 4 years in high school. Whichever is first.

MCPS is ruining many kids with this requirement. There are many people in this world who don't need Pre-Cal either. We threw away all the trades and great electives to prepare kids for life and only focus on college admissions. It is embarrassing how little they care about the kids actually learning. Forcing the smarter kids to bring up the rear and not giving 2 craps about the rear.

It's not MCPS, it's a Maryland state requirement.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought there was supposed to be a mandatory finance class as part of the math curriculum. Learning credit, taxes, banking, stocks, college loans, 401K etc.... What happened?

It's not mandatory. That was proposed by the recent SMOB, but it was not approved by the board.

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Using state funding for tutoring in an advanced class is tacky. It's double-dipping.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought there was supposed to be a mandatory finance class as part of the math curriculum. Learning credit, taxes, banking, stocks, college loans, 401K etc.... What happened?

It's not mandatory. That was proposed by the recent SMOB, but it was not approved by the board.

NP - is this for real? All the jokes that kids are not ready financially and all of the debt of our country and this was not approved?

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Anonymous wrote:NP here, but interested in this topic. DC in 7th is struggling but hanging on in Algebra. Is there a point where students 'back off' this track? Or it is just a given that all but the best math minds will have a tutor? It seems like once you're on the accelerated track, it's very hard to change without repeating a year (like Geometry, as noted above).

My kid struggled a bit. We don't believe in hiring tutors; if he can't do the work, then he shouldn't be in the class. That being said, he had a great teacher who would answer questions during lunch and with that extra time to check in with his teacher, his grades went back up. There were just a few units where it took longer to "click." I would chat with the teacher and see what he/she thinks.

Why on earth would you have your child struggle and not get them help? MCPS is offering FREE FREE tutoring via Tutor Me. You seem kinda selfish and not caring about your child's best interests.

Honestly, over 90% of the entire population doesn't use tutors. If the class is beyond their means and you need tutors, extra help, hours on your homework, that is the kid not taking the right courses at the right time. It's just a parent pushing them beyond their limits to brag to their friends where junior ends up at college.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here, but interested in this topic. DC in 7th is struggling but hanging on in Algebra. Is there a point where students 'back off' this track? Or it is just a given that all but the best math minds will have a tutor? It seems like once you're on the accelerated track, it's very hard to change without repeating a year (like Geometry, as noted above).

My kid struggled a bit. We don't believe in hiring tutors; if he can't do the work, then he shouldn't be in the class. That being said, he had a great teacher who would answer questions during lunch and with that extra time to check in with his teacher, his grades went back up. There were just a few units where it took longer to "click." I would chat with the teacher and see what he/she thinks.

Why on earth would you have your child struggle and not get them help? MCPS is offering FREE FREE tutoring via Tutor Me. You seem kinda selfish and not caring about your child's best interests.

Honestly, over 90% of the entire population doesn't use tutors. If the class is beyond their means and you need tutors, extra help, hours on your homework, that is the kid not taking the right courses at the right time. It's just a parent pushing them beyond their limits to brag to their friends where junior ends up at college.

My kid is very bright and with the right teaching and curriculum would pick it up easily but struggles without the structure of traditional teaching and textbooks. They waste so much time in group discussions. The tutors are necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here, but interested in this topic. DC in 7th is struggling but hanging on in Algebra. Is there a point where students 'back off' this track? Or it is just a given that all but the best math minds will have a tutor? It seems like once you're on the accelerated track, it's very hard to change without repeating a year (like Geometry, as noted above).

My kid struggled a bit. We don't believe in hiring tutors; if he can't do the work, then he shouldn't be in the class. That being said, he had a great teacher who would answer questions during lunch and with that extra time to check in with his teacher, his grades went back up. There were just a few units where it took longer to "click." I would chat with the teacher and see what he/she thinks.

Why on earth would you have your child struggle and not get them help? MCPS is offering FREE FREE tutoring via Tutor Me. You seem kinda selfish and not caring about your child's best interests.

Honestly, over 90% of the entire population doesn't use tutors. If the class is beyond their means and you need tutors, extra help, hours on your homework, that is the kid not taking the right courses at the right time. It's just a parent pushing them beyond their limits to brag to their friends where junior ends up at college.

My kid is very bright and with the right teaching and curriculum would pick it up easily but struggles without the structure of traditional teaching and textbooks. They waste so much time in group discussions. The tutors are necessary.

Only entitled white folk say this

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought there was supposed to be a mandatory finance class as part of the math curriculum. Learning credit, taxes, banking, stocks, college loans, 401K etc.... What happened?

It's not mandatory. That was proposed by the recent SMOB, but it was not approved by the board.

It is available in our HS as Quantitative Literacy. Popular math class for Srs

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Anonymous wrote:Wait, I thought there was supposed to be a mandatory finance class as part of the math curriculum. Learning credit, taxes, banking, stocks, college loans, 401K etc.... What happened?

It's not mandatory. That was proposed by the recent SMOB, but it was not approved by the board.

It is available in our HS as Quantitative Literacy. Popular math class for Srs

MCCPTA note out indicating that though it meets the MD state req of taking a math class in each year of high school, it may not be accepted by the university system of MD to meet their own admissions requirements. I'd suggest anyone looking to go to one of the UMD schools check first.

That said, it's a shame that financial literacy isn't a graduation requirement, with such a class being among the options for fulfilling it (as long as there were test-out or extracurricular activity options or something similar to keep the slot open for the more academically inclined). O'Looney often was the best board member last year. It's too bad that they short-changed the discussion so that it never got to the point where the alternatives would have removed the main objection. Mastery of the subject is sorely needed, and would support true equity.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here, but interested in this topic. DC in 7th is struggling but hanging on in Algebra. Is there a point where students 'back off' this track? Or it is just a given that all but the best math minds will have a tutor? It seems like once you're on the accelerated track, it's very hard to change without repeating a year (like Geometry, as noted above).

My kid struggled a bit. We don't believe in hiring tutors; if he can't do the work, then he shouldn't be in the class. That being said, he had a great teacher who would answer questions during lunch and with that extra time to check in with his teacher, his grades went back up. There were just a few units where it took longer to "click." I would chat with the teacher and see what he/she thinks.

Why on earth would you have your child struggle and not get them help? MCPS is offering FREE FREE tutoring via Tutor Me. You seem kinda selfish and not caring about your child's best interests.

Honestly, over 90% of the entire population doesn't use tutors. If the class is beyond their means and you need tutors, extra help, hours on your homework, that is the kid not taking the right courses at the right time. It's just a parent pushing them beyond their limits to brag to their friends where junior ends up at college.

My kid is very bright and with the right teaching and curriculum would pick it up easily but struggles without the structure of traditional teaching and textbooks. They waste so much time in group discussions. The tutors are necessary.

Only entitled white folk say this

Entitled white folks? Lucky you any teaching style works well for your children but my kids have their struggles and we spent many years in therapy trying to get them the help they needed because MCPS refused. So, while you are on nice vacations living in your fancy house, our money went to supporting our kids needs. Kids test scores are down...everyone is complaining about learning loss. What has changed over the years with the decline is the new teaching style. Perhaps it's time to go back to the basics and back to what is working.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here, but interested in this topic. DC in 7th is struggling but hanging on in Algebra. Is there a point where students 'back off' this track? Or it is just a given that all but the best math minds will have a tutor? It seems like once you're on the accelerated track, it's very hard to change without repeating a year (like Geometry, as noted above).

My kid struggled a bit. We don't believe in hiring tutors; if he can't do the work, then he shouldn't be in the class. That being said, he had a great teacher who would answer questions during lunch and with that extra time to check in with his teacher, his grades went back up. There were just a few units where it took longer to "click." I would chat with the teacher and see what he/she thinks.

Why on earth would you have your child struggle and not get them help? MCPS is offering FREE FREE tutoring via Tutor Me. You seem kinda selfish and not caring about your child's best interests.

Honestly, over 90% of the entire population doesn't use tutors. If the class is beyond their means and you need tutors, extra help, hours on your homework, that is the kid not taking the right courses at the right time. It's just a parent pushing them beyond their limits to brag to their friends where junior ends up at college.

My kid is very bright and with the right teaching and curriculum would pick it up easily but struggles without the structure of traditional teaching and textbooks. They waste so much time in group discussions. The tutors are necessary.

Only entitled white folk say this

Entitled white folks? Lucky you any teaching style works well for your children but my kids have their struggles and we spent many years in therapy trying to get them the help they needed because MCPS refused. So, while you are on nice vacations living in your fancy house, our money went to supporting our kids needs. Kids test scores are down...everyone is complaining about learning loss. What has changed over the years with the decline is the new teaching style. Perhaps it's time to go back to the basics and back to what is working.

Just go to private school if you want better teaching

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Anonymous wrote:NP here, but interested in this topic. DC in 7th is struggling but hanging on in Algebra. Is there a point where students 'back off' this track? Or it is just a given that all but the best math minds will have a tutor? It seems like once you're on the accelerated track, it's very hard to change without repeating a year (like Geometry, as noted above).

My kid struggled a bit. We don't believe in hiring tutors; if he can't do the work, then he shouldn't be in the class. That being said, he had a great teacher who would answer questions during lunch and with that extra time to check in with his teacher, his grades went back up. There were just a few units where it took longer to "click." I would chat with the teacher and see what he/she thinks.

Why on earth would you have your child struggle and not get them help? MCPS is offering FREE FREE tutoring via Tutor Me. You seem kinda selfish and not caring about your child's best interests.

Honestly, over 90% of the entire population doesn't use tutors. If the class is beyond their means and you need tutors, extra help, hours on your homework, that is the kid not taking the right courses at the right time. It's just a parent pushing them beyond their limits to brag to their friends where junior ends up at college.

My kid is very bright and with the right teaching and curriculum would pick it up easily but struggles without the structure of traditional teaching and textbooks. They waste so much time in group discussions. The tutors are necessary.

Only entitled white folk say this

Entitled white folks? Lucky you any teaching style works well for your children but my kids have their struggles and we spent many years in therapy trying to get them the help they needed because MCPS refused. So, while you are on nice vacations living in your fancy house, our money went to supporting our kids needs. Kids test scores are down...everyone is complaining about learning loss. What has changed over the years with the decline is the new teaching style. Perhaps it's time to go back to the basics and back to what is working.

Just go to private school if you want better teaching

We have and it wasn't better, sadly.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here, but interested in this topic. DC in 7th is struggling but hanging on in Algebra. Is there a point where students 'back off' this track? Or it is just a given that all but the best math minds will have a tutor? It seems like once you're on the accelerated track, it's very hard to change without repeating a year (like Geometry, as noted above).

My kid struggled a bit. We don't believe in hiring tutors; if he can't do the work, then he shouldn't be in the class. That being said, he had a great teacher who would answer questions during lunch and with that extra time to check in with his teacher, his grades went back up. There were just a few units where it took longer to "click." I would chat with the teacher and see what he/she thinks.

Why on earth would you have your child struggle and not get them help? MCPS is offering FREE FREE tutoring via Tutor Me. You seem kinda selfish and not caring about your child's best interests.

Honestly, over 90% of the entire population doesn't use tutors. If the class is beyond their means and you need tutors, extra help, hours on your homework, that is the kid not taking the right courses at the right time. It's just a parent pushing them beyond their limits to brag to their friends where junior ends up at college.

My kid is very bright and with the right teaching and curriculum would pick it up easily but struggles without the structure of traditional teaching and textbooks. They waste so much time in group discussions. The tutors are necessary.

Only entitled white folk say this

Entitled white folks? Lucky you any teaching style works well for your children but my kids have their struggles and we spent many years in therapy trying to get them the help they needed because MCPS refused. So, while you are on nice vacations living in your fancy house, our money went to supporting our kids needs. Kids test scores are down...everyone is complaining about learning loss. What has changed over the years with the decline is the new teaching style. Perhaps it's time to go back to the basics and back to what is working.

Just go to private school if you want better teaching

We have and it wasn't better, sadly.

Not religious school. Secular college prep schools. They are better by miles. I have 2 in public and 2 in private. One at Holton and 1 at Sidwell.

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Anonymous wrote:NP here, but interested in this topic. DC in 7th is struggling but hanging on in Algebra. Is there a point where students 'back off' this track? Or it is just a given that all but the best math minds will have a tutor? It seems like once you're on the accelerated track, it's very hard to change without repeating a year (like Geometry, as noted above).

My kid struggled a bit. We don't believe in hiring tutors; if he can't do the work, then he shouldn't be in the class. That being said, he had a great teacher who would answer questions during lunch and with that extra time to check in with his teacher, his grades went back up. There were just a few units where it took longer to "click." I would chat with the teacher and see what he/she thinks.

Why on earth would you have your child struggle and not get them help? MCPS is offering FREE FREE tutoring via Tutor Me. You seem kinda selfish and not caring about your child's best interests.

Honestly, over 90% of the entire population doesn't use tutors. If the class is beyond their means and you need tutors, extra help, hours on your homework, that is the kid not taking the right courses at the right time. It's just a parent pushing them beyond their limits to brag to their friends where junior ends up at college.

My kid is very bright and with the right teaching and curriculum would pick it up easily but struggles without the structure of traditional teaching and textbooks. They waste so much time in group discussions. The tutors are necessary.

Only entitled white folk say this

Entitled white folks? Lucky you any teaching style works well for your children but my kids have their struggles and we spent many years in therapy trying to get them the help they needed because MCPS refused. So, while you are on nice vacations living in your fancy house, our money went to supporting our kids needs. Kids test scores are down...everyone is complaining about learning loss. What has changed over the years with the decline is the new teaching style. Perhaps it's time to go back to the basics and back to what is working.

Just go to private school if you want better teaching

We have and it wasn't better, sadly.

Not religious school. Secular college prep schools. They are better by miles. I have 2 in public and 2 in private. One at Holton and 1 at Sidwell.

It wasn't a religious school and we weren't impressed. Why would you only put two in private?

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Anonymous wrote:NP here, but interested in this topic. DC in 7th is struggling but hanging on in Algebra. Is there a point where students 'back off' this track? Or it is just a given that all but the best math minds will have a tutor? It seems like once you're on the accelerated track, it's very hard to change without repeating a year (like Geometry, as noted above).

My kid struggled a bit. We don't believe in hiring tutors; if he can't do the work, then he shouldn't be in the class. That being said, he had a great teacher who would answer questions during lunch and with that extra time to check in with his teacher, his grades went back up. There were just a few units where it took longer to "click." I would chat with the teacher and see what he/she thinks.

This is teacher dependent. I didn’t believe in hiring tutors either until Alg2 H when my kid’s teacher did a “flipped classroom” - so the learning is done at home. My kid and every other kid in the class has a tutor.

In flipped classes, it's not that the "learning is done at home" but that the lecture is done at home. A lot of the learning still happens in the classroom while working on problems.