I oppose WFH because it will be more difficult for me to meet a spouse

[Anonymous]

My daughter belongs to running clubs, socializes at road races, plays on an adult kickball team, volunteers. All great ways to meet people. And we keep telling to go to church where people also go to meet spouses. Lots of places other than work. A book club at the library even. Our town also has a plant shop with a bar where people take these little gardening classes and socialize.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People used to meet their spouses at work. With WFH it will be hard for me to (new-ish grad here).

I understand what you mean - it's not just people at work but people in the building, walking to lunch, at lunch spots, after work drinks. It sucks for younger professionals who initially start building out their social groups via work.

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Anonymous wrote:For the people who immediately focus on intra-office dating, surely you understand that in large cities or urban sprawl, people work for different companies in the same building? That you can meet in the lobby, elevator, coffee shop, little wilted garden, etc? In just a few years, have you entirely forgotten what it's like to go to work?!?!

I really appreciated my workplace and *most* (not all) of the people in it when I was working in person. I don't think there's a big push to return to virtual work at all.

However I think virtual works well for some people, and I hope they can still find virtual options.

As I recall, while I was being paid to work, I worked. I didn't hit on people in the elevator or hang out like a homeless drifter in the "wilted garden."

So you walked straight to your cubicle, typed for 8 hrs, sprinted to elevator, and bolted out the door? If so, you may have certain personal issues. That’s fine
But most of us were capable of going work and being social with fellow employees. You know, normal human interaction

Sorry, my job wasn't typing in a cubicle. No wonder you can't wait to get back.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People used to meet their spouses at work. With WFH it will be hard for me to (new-ish grad here).

I understand what you mean - it's not just people at work but people in the building, walking to lunch, at lunch spots, after work drinks. It sucks for younger professionals who initially start building out their social groups via work.

All three examples you cite are things that people working from home can and do do. There’s zero reason to not be social while working from home. The challenge is, you need to actually leave your parents house.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People used to meet their spouses at work. With WFH it will be hard for me to (new-ish grad here).

I don't know a single person who has met their spouse at work.

really? I met my spouse at work and so did many of my friends in non-medical fields. We worked in different departments so it wasn't that weird when we started dating and it would not have been that bad if we had broken up. That said, I am not sure if that is a reason why everyone should go back to the office. I am back a few days a week and don't mind though.

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Anonymous wrote:For the people who immediately focus on intra-office dating, surely you understand that in large cities or urban sprawl, people work for different companies in the same building? That you can meet in the lobby, elevator, coffee shop, little wilted garden, etc? In just a few years, have you entirely forgotten what it's like to go to work?!?!

I really appreciated my workplace and *most* (not all) of the people in it when I was working in person. I don't think there's a big push to return to virtual work at all.

However I think virtual works well for some people, and I hope they can still find virtual options.

As I recall, while I was being paid to work, I worked. I didn't hit on people in the elevator or hang out like a homeless drifter in the "wilted garden."

So you walked straight to your cubicle, typed for 8 hrs, sprinted to elevator, and bolted out the door? If so, you may have certain personal issues. That’s fine
But most of us were capable of going work and being social with fellow employees. You know, normal human interaction

Sorry, my job wasn't typing in a cubicle. No wonder you can't wait to get back.

No wonder you had no friends. You sound fun

And I WFH. I’ve got no skin in this game but I do remember how it was when I was single, young and in an office. Way more fun than your life it seems

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People used to meet their spouses at work. With WFH it will be hard for me to (new-ish grad here).

I don't know a single person who has met their spouse at work.

really? I met my spouse at work and so did many of my friends in non-medical fields. We worked in different departments so it wasn't that weird when we started dating and it would not have been that bad if we had broken up. That said, I am not sure if that is a reason why everyone should go back to the office. I am back a few days a week and don't mind though.

Most Studies estimate that at most 20% of all marriages originate at the workplace. So most married adults are not meeting their spouses at work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People used to meet their spouses at work. With WFH it will be hard for me to (new-ish grad here).

I don't know a single person who has met their spouse at work.

really? I met my spouse at work and so did many of my friends in non-medical fields. We worked in different departments so it wasn't that weird when we started dating and it would not have been that bad if we had broken up. That said, I am not sure if that is a reason why everyone should go back to the office. I am back a few days a week and don't mind though.

Most Studies estimate that at most 20% of all marriages originate at the workplace. So most married adults are not meeting their spouses at work.

OP’s concern still stands. My DH was met thru work and not at work. That would still be a result of the in-person thought we weren’t colleagues.
Plus, you’re not considering all the work friends, trusted colleagues and mentors. I still keep in touch with the attys from my first job years ago. They’ve been integral in helping me start my own practice. I wonder if those ties still remain for this generation if you only know people via Zoom

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People used to meet their spouses at work. With WFH it will be hard for me to (new-ish grad here).

I don't know a single person who has met their spouse at work.

really? I met my spouse at work and so did many of my friends in non-medical fields. We worked in different departments so it wasn't that weird when we started dating and it would not have been that bad if we had broken up. That said, I am not sure if that is a reason why everyone should go back to the office. I am back a few days a week and don't mind though.

Most Studies estimate that at most 20% of all marriages originate at the workplace. So most married adults are not meeting their spouses at work.

OP’s concern still stands. My DH was met thru work and not at work. That would still be a result of the in-person thought we weren’t colleagues.
Plus, you’re not considering all the work friends, trusted colleagues and mentors. I still keep in touch with the attys from my first job years ago. They’ve been integral in helping me start my own practice. I wonder if those ties still remain for this generation if you only know people via Zoom

Those of us who have worked for international companies are here to tell you but it’s very possible to form strong relationships with coworkers worldwide without having to sit next to them every single day.

You’re either a friendly congenial person, or you’re not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People used to meet their spouses at work. With WFH it will be hard for me to (new-ish grad here).

I am mid-40s. I don't know ANYONE who met their spouse at work. In fact, most people...before and now...have a rule not to date at work.

I never would have met a man at work. Small employers and mostly women.

[Anonymous]

You could get an in-person job. Also, on the days I work from home I am usually still eating lunch out or meeting a friend or colleague for a quick bite/coffee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think that's fine for younger staff and people who just want to go into the office for social reasons. You folks go right ahead.

Those of us who are already married can continue to work from home.

Right? I’m not sure that me (a working mom of 3 with no free time) going into the office is going to help out OP. Us marrieds with stay home and the singles can commute if they want.

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Anonymous wrote:People used to meet their spouses at work. With WFH it will be hard for me to (new-ish grad here).

I don't know a single person who has met their spouse at work.

really? I met my spouse at work and so did many of my friends in non-medical fields. We worked in different departments so it wasn't that weird when we started dating and it would not have been that bad if we had broken up. That said, I am not sure if that is a reason why everyone should go back to the office. I am back a few days a week and don't mind though.

Most Studies estimate that at most 20% of all marriages originate at the workplace. So most married adults are not meeting their spouses at work.

OP’s concern still stands. My DH was met thru work and not at work. That would still be a result of the in-person thought we weren’t colleagues.
Plus, you’re not considering all the work friends, trusted colleagues and mentors. I still keep in touch with the attys from my first job years ago. They’ve been integral in helping me start my own practice. I wonder if those ties still remain for this generation if you only know people via Zoom

Those of us who have worked for international companies are here to tell you but it’s very possible to form strong relationships with coworkers worldwide without having to sit next to them every single day.

You’re either a friendly congenial person, or you’re not.

I’m sorry but no. You are not forming a “strong” relationship with someone that you’ve never seen (or don’t see more than 1x per year). No matter how well you think you know someone, the absence of physical proximity limits your interactions. You know your colleagues as a font type only

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People used to meet their spouses at work. With WFH it will be hard for me to (new-ish grad here).

I don't know a single person who has met their spouse at work.

really? I met my spouse at work and so did many of my friends in non-medical fields. We worked in different departments so it wasn't that weird when we started dating and it would not have been that bad if we had broken up. That said, I am not sure if that is a reason why everyone should go back to the office. I am back a few days a week and don't mind though.

Most Studies estimate that at most 20% of all marriages originate at the workplace. So most married adults are not meeting their spouses at work.

OP’s concern still stands. My DH was met thru work and not at work. That would still be a result of the in-person thought we weren’t colleagues.
Plus, you’re not considering all the work friends, trusted colleagues and mentors. I still keep in touch with the attys from my first job years ago. They’ve been integral in helping me start my own practice. I wonder if those ties still remain for this generation if you only know people via Zoom

Those of us who have worked for international companies are here to tell you but it’s very possible to form strong relationships with coworkers worldwide without having to sit next to them every single day.

You’re either a friendly congenial person, or you’re not.

I’m sorry but no. You are not forming a “strong” relationship with someone that you’ve never seen (or don’t see more than 1x per year). No matter how well you think you know someone, the absence of physical proximity limits your interactions. You know your colleagues as a font type only

Lol. Ok. You clearly have shit interpersonal skills if you cannot connect with someone by voice/video.

[Anonymous]

I don’t know anyone who met their spouse at work.