Nancy Pelosi Had Priests Perform Exorcism on House After Husband’s Attack

[Anonymous]

Good for Nancy. I hope it helps her — and her husband — reach a place of peace.

As a non-Catholic, I’m wondering if it’s possible to arrange something similar for the House, the Senate, and the Supreme Court?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing: Nancy Pelosi is a legitimately religious woman. Unlike all of the fake Republicans.

One who is refused communion

So? It is normal religious practice that any Catholic who is not in a state of grace, which might include having eaten too recently, should not receive communion at that time. That is a part of the "legitimately religious" practice. And it is personal and none of your business why a given individual does not take communion at any given Mass. Sin does not make a person "not religious." There is not one among us who is without sin.

Also one's political position that women must be the ones to make decisions about pregnancies, medical and moral, is not contradictory to a personal belief that due to the ambiguity in one's own church's theology regarding the time a soul enters a body, that the morally safer path is to not have an abortion at any time (btw, that is the Catholic Church's stance -- they can't know for certain and therefore advise the morally safer choice). It is not the government's role to solve theological ambiguities or uncertainties for all people. The purposes for which our government was established are: to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. Not to tell people how to resolve their religious ambiguities and certainly not to favor one such resolution over other reasonable resolutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good for Nancy. I hope it helps her — and her husband — reach a place of peace.

As a non-Catholic, I’m wondering if it’s possible to arrange something similar for the House, the Senate, and the Supreme Court?

Congress has a Chaplain, so yes.

[Anonymous]

There’s a good chance her daughter chose the word exorcism to describe the situation on her own. Many people if asked what to call something bad or evil being blessed by a priest would use the word exorcism without understanding the technicalities of the word from a religious standpoint.

[Anonymous]

She’s a lifelong Catholic, highly educated. She absolutely knows what she said.

[Anonymous]

These Christians! So superstitious and unscientific.

[Anonymous]

You can’t exorcise a house. A house can’t be possessed by a demonic entity.

A priest probably blessed the house. Her daughter was being hyperbolic because she knew it would grab headlines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing: Nancy Pelosi is a legitimately religious woman. Unlike all of the fake Republicans.

One who is refused communion

So? It is normal religious practice that any Catholic who is not in a state of grace, which might include having eaten too recently, should not receive communion at that time. That is a part of the "legitimately religious" practice. And it is personal and none of your business why a given individual does not take communion at any given Mass. Sin does not make a person "not religious." There is not one among us who is without sin.

Also one's political position that women must be the ones to make decisions about pregnancies, medical and moral, is not contradictory to a personal belief that due to the ambiguity in one's own church's theology regarding the time a soul enters a body, that the morally safer path is to not have an abortion at any time (btw, that is the Catholic Church's stance -- they can't know for certain and therefore advise the morally safer choice). It is not the government's role to solve theological ambiguities or uncertainties for all people. The purposes for which our government was established are: to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. Not to tell people how to resolve their religious ambiguities and certainly not to favor one such resolution over other reasonable resolutions.

The dreadful, unbearable, killing, burdensome, one whole hour Eucharistic fast, or the absence thereof, has nothing to do with being “in the state of Grace.” The fast is a discipline. A person experiencing denial of the Eucharist because of public moral scandal is in no wise similarly situated to a person who might be a bit short on the one hour fast. There are degrees of sin, and while all sin is an offense of infinite proportion, only serious sins committed with full knowledge and full, free and final consent of the will separate one from the state of Grace. Whatever being “religious” means, it is hard to reconcile that descriptor with a life knowingly and voluntarily lived in openly lived objective serious sin.

There is no ambiguity of any kind in Catholic teaching regarding abortion. Regardless of the ancient philosophical discussions about “ensoulment” that took place long before more recent scientific understanding, the Church repeatedly has made unequivocally clear over centuries that procured abortion never is morally admissible. Politics have nothing to do with it.

As for exorcism, there are “major” and “minor” exorcisms. Minor exorcisms were fairly common in the rites before Vatican II. Part of the ritual of making holy water, for example, was to exorcise both the water and the accompanying salt via a minor exorcism. Exorcism of a home would be a minor exorcism any priest could perform. Exorcism of a person believed to be possessed would be a major exorcism that could only be performed by a bishop or one acting under his authority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.thedailybeast.com/nancy-pelosi-had-priests-perform-exorcism-on-house-after-husband-pauls-attack

Nancy Pelosi had priests perform an exorcism on her house in the wake of the brutal attack that left her husband Paul hospitalized, her daughter told The New York Times. “I think that weighed really heavy on her soul. I think she felt really guilty. I think that really broke her,” Pelosi’s daughter Alexandra told Times columnist Maureen Dowd.

Apparently Nancy thinks evil spirits or demonic creatures are in her home.

I’m the atheist who is pointing out OPs bigotry (and while I’m at it, several other PPs but I’m not going to quote them; they are probably OP sock puppeting anyhow).

The bolded is the bigoted part. You know nothing of Pelosi’s reasoning or thought process, and the derision in the bolded sentence is clear. Don’t try to squirm away from your open bigotry, OP. I’m done with the thread now as I don’t post where bigots do once I’ve spoken up, so won’t respond further. OP, you are a bigot. Nothing more to say.

-atheist

Questions about Exorcism

What is an exorcism?

Exorcism is a specific form of prayer that the Church uses against the power of the devil.

https://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/sacraments-and-sacramentals/sacramentals-blessings/exorcism

Nancy is a lifelong Catholic and knows what she wanted in her home.

Why does the Church need exorcisms?

There are instances when a person needs to be protected against the power of the devil or to be withdrawn from his spiritual dominion. At such times, the Church asks publicly and authoritatively in the name of Jesus Christ for this protection or liberation through the use of exorcism.

Are there different kinds of exorcisms?

Exorcisms are divided into two kinds (or forms). Simple or minor forms of exorcism are found in two places: first, for those preparing for Baptism, the Rite of Christian Initiation of Adults (RCIA) and the Rite of Baptism for Children both call for minor exorcisms; secondly, the appendix of Exorcisms and Related Supplications includes a series of prayers which may be used by the faithful.

The second kind is the solemn or "major exorcism," which is a rite that can only be performed by a bishop or a by priest, with the special and express permission of the local ordinary (cf. Code of Canon Law, can. 1172). This form is directed "at the expulsion of demons or to the liberation [of a person] from demonic possession" (Catechism of the Catholic Church, no. 1673).

What is the difference between a major exorcism and a minor exorcism?

While both forms of exorcism are directed against the power of the devil, the Rite of Major Exorcism is employed only when there is a case of genuine demonic possession, namely, when it is determined that the presence of the devil is in the body of the possessed and the devil is able to exercise dominion over that body.

Minor exorcisms are prayers used to break the influence of evil and sin in a person's life, whether as a catechumen preparing for Baptism or as one of the Baptized faithful striving to overcome the influence of evil and sin in his or her life.

I read these and they seem informative and helpful. None of this info is bigoted; it’s directly from the Catholic church.

This explains exorcism even better.

[Anonymous]

Did Nancy Pelosi Seek an Exorcism at Her House After Attack on Husband?
Paul Pelosi was attacked in the home by a hammer-wielding man in October 2022.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/nancy-pelosi-priest-exorcism-husband/?utm_source=cb_rec_contentv1_t_0_0_0_0_0_1_0_0_8_4

It was an exorcism, according to Snopes.

[Anonymous]

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This is why people should not take any opinions posted here as fact or truth…this forum is not a good place for people to learn about religion or religious practices, beliefs, etc. Too many biased, uneducated people posting their opinions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's the thing: Nancy Pelosi is a legitimately religious woman. Unlike all of the fake Republicans.

You don’t know who is legit religious; only God knows that.

I can imagine if a republican had their home exorcised, what people would think and say, though.

+ 1 million

Nope. Not in this case. In this case, we all know.

PP here. Hate to break it to you, but you are not God.

If Joel Osteen or anyone else got on tv or stage and claimed he knew who was religious and who was not, people here would immediately attack him. Yet pp has the nerve to speak for a bunch of people, and say “we know who is truly religious and who is not.”

Seriously, you don’t know. Only God knows.

I think one big difference is that Pelosi isn’t using religion to pass laws that control people. She isn’t trying to push her religious views onto others via the legislative branch. She keeps her personal religious views in the personal realm. A lot of republicans are trying to pass laws with religious foundations which would control other people or diminish their personal freedoms. It’s frustrating when many republicans seem to have trouble adhering to God’s laws and/or man’s laws, while trying to say other people are bad and their perfectly normal actions are or should be illegal.