EVs a disaster

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Anonymous wrote:Saying "EVs" are a disaster when you mean trucks for big hauls and all-terrain is stupid. Use the right tool for the right job. My husband's EV is meant to be a commuter car; it does a fantastic job for that. If he wanted to haul lumber up a mountain every day in ice and snow, he'd use a different vehicle. Dumb thread.

Yeah, except people in California won't have a choice. They will be forced to buy trash EV trucks if they have to haul work equipment etc. What are they gonna do, waste 4 hours per day charging because they have to drive 150 miles in a day while hauling equipment.

What a dumb post by you.

Oh here we go. The RWNJs have declared war on EV’s. Move to California and complain.

Another idiot who doesn't realize CA regs impose standards and regs on many other states.

Not universally.

What state do you live in? What CA regs affect you right now?

A lot of the vehicle emissions and MPG-related rules California has more strict rules than the EPA which causes the automakers to collectively step their game up. Even if it doesn't actually get implemented in 2035 as written in 2022 due to California regime changes or legal challenges it starts to make a business case for decision-makers at these companies to electrify more of their fleet and invest in R&D.

That said, PP says it like it's a bad thing. If you think of electric/electrified cars from going to Prius -> Leaf -> Model S -> Rivian/Hummer/F150 Lightning in ~15-20 years it shows how much the battery and drivetrain technology has improved. You know your argument sucks when you have to bring up an edge commercial use-case that doesn't apply to 99% of vehicles on the road.

Lol @ 'edge commercial use case'.

It's a shitty vehicle that looks like a truck that can't even do truck things. Clearly you missed the second video where he had to sell the lightning because it's range completely sucked in cold weather even without towing anything. He was basically burning through 1.5-2x range of the miles driven. A complete disaster.

Way to make a crappy post without even getting up to speed on everything.

At this point an EV pickup isn't a great fit for a person who regularly needs to tow or haul long distances. Nobody is arguing you on that.

It is a great fit for the vast majority of F150 owners who use their car to drive to the office and the occasional FB marketplace furniture pickup. I don't understand why more choice in the marketplace is so triggering for you.

It's not a great fit, because the performance early sucks in cold weather. Can you imagine how Terrible this thing will perform if we get snow? Or a cold snap. The guy literally ditched the truck because he was only getting about a 100 miles out of a full charge after the battery stunk it up in cold weather. What are you going to do if your range gets depleted in half and you have to drive through snow? Pray that you find a charging station and have to charge for 45 minutes? You can't even use the heater. Have fun getting stranded. Or imagine taking your kids to basketball or ice hockey games, wanting to run a few errands, and do some grocery shopping while you are out in the winter. Ooops,.can't do that without needing to recharge multiple times because your range has been cut in half in the winter.


The dude sold the truck because it was undrivable in the winter even without towing. What a disaster.

[Anonymous]

A two seat roadster is a terrible car because I can’t take it off-roading in Moab or haul an armoire home from IKEA. What a disaster.

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Anonymous wrote:A two seat roadster is a terrible car because I can’t take it off-roading in Moab or haul an armoire home from IKEA. What a disaster.

NP. Your pickup/Explorer is an economical disaster. That’s the real point. Hauling an armoire home from IKEA once a year (if that) doesn’t justify your behemoth’s pollution for the other 364 days in the year.

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Anonymous wrote:A two seat roadster is a terrible car because I can’t take it off-roading in Moab or haul an armoire home from IKEA. What a disaster.

NP. Your pickup/Explorer is an economical disaster. That’s the real point. Hauling an armoire home from IKEA once a year (if that) doesn’t justify your behemoth’s pollution for the other 364 days in the year.

* ecological disaster

[Anonymous]

Looks like no one wants the F-150, it's such a disaster that... Ford just increased the MSRP by $15,000

https://electrek.co/2022/12/15/ford-f-150-lightning-price-increase/