75% of Maryland 8th grade students and 69 percent of 4th grade students are at or below

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

Well, excelling in the South is different than excelling in the North.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

No. Actually, it’s possible we lost more kids due to school buildings being shut down from the pandemic. There has been a huge increase in mental health issues and suicides amongst kids since Covid began.

Zero kids age 0-17 have died of Covid in Montgomery County as a result of Covid. ZERO. That was with schools open/schools closed, prior to the Covid shot/after the Covid shot.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/case-counts.html#deaths-age

We did not ‘save kids’ lives’ by keeping schools closed. Not at all.

Agree with the second poster. Some people cannot face what a wrong headed decision this was. Private schools were open. Public schools in red-leaning areas were open. Schools in other countries were open. C'mon, it's 2022, we can open our eyes and admit that we absolutely failed the kids.

The data indicates this had no bearing on the outcome. In fact, schools that were open had the same losses.

Talk to any teacher and ask whether s/he thinks there are missing foundational elements in students today versus the students in October 2019.

And the answer would be???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

BS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

Well, excelling in the South is different than excelling in the North.

1000%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

Well, excelling in the South is different than excelling in the North.

Not at all. That’s your own bias shining through.

My kid does a Math program that attracts kids from all over the world. You should see how many high-flyers there are that come from Texas and Florida. Lots of extremely bright kids all over the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

Turns out that was a waste of time and money.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/24/pandemic-learning-loss-naep-tests/

Thanks for posting a credible source instead of that fake PR piece the other poster is pushing.

“We kept schools open in 2020, and today’s NAEP results once again prove we made the right decision,” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said on Twitter.

But the data did not establish a connection between back-to-school policies and academic performance. In California, for instance, many public schools were closed well into the 2020-21 school year, and some students never saw a classroom that year. But the declines were similar to those in Texas and Florida, where schools were ordered to reopen much sooner

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/24/pandemic-learning-loss-naep-tests/

The declines registered were particularly troubling given that American academic performance was already shaky. In early 2020, before the pandemic upended schools, NAEP test scores in both reading and math declined for 13-year-old students, the first drop registered since the tests started to be administered in 1969.

Pandemic made things worse but America was already failing.

I am an Asian-American parent. When I complain about the low standards in American schools, I am doing it out of concern because I have first hand knowledge of what is happening in my Asian country of origin and America - the country I have chosen to immigrate to. I would want US to do well because I am now an American citizen and so are my children. However, any complaint is seen as a critisicm. It should instead be seen as intel that various immigrant groups are bringing to USA. Lets use the information to bring best educational practices, best curriculum, best teaching aids and best textbooks to the US. Why is this so hard?

[Anonymous]

62% are at or above grade level in Math, btw

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

Well, excelling in the South is different than excelling in the North.

Not at all. That’s your own bias shining through.

My kid does a Math program that attracts kids from all over the world. You should see how many high-flyers there are that come from Texas and Florida. Lots of extremely bright kids all over the country.

Well, there are a lot of extremely bright Asian-American kids in Texas and Florida. I know of several high achiever Indian-Americans who live in Alabama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

No. Actually, it’s possible we lost more kids due to school buildings being shut down from the pandemic. There has been a huge increase in mental health issues and suicides amongst kids since Covid began.

Zero kids age 0-17 have died of Covid in Montgomery County as a result of Covid. ZERO. That was with schools open/schools closed, prior to the Covid shot/after the Covid shot.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/case-counts.html#deaths-age

We did not ‘save kids’ lives’ by keeping schools closed. Not at all.

Agree with the second poster. Some people cannot face what a wrong headed decision this was. Private schools were open. Public schools in red-leaning areas were open. Schools in other countries were open. C'mon, it's 2022, we can open our eyes and admit that we absolutely failed the kids.

Yes to this. Admit it was a mistake and let’s try to fix it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

Well, excelling in the South is different than excelling in the North.

Not at all. That’s your own bias shining through.

My kid does a Math program that attracts kids from all over the world. You should see how many high-flyers there are that come from Texas and Florida. Lots of extremely bright kids all over the country.

Well, there are a lot of extremely bright Asian-American kids in Texas and Florida. I know of several high achiever Indian-Americans who live in Alabama.

Oh, I agree! Just commenting in response to the poster who said there are no smart kids ‘excelling’ in the southern part of the US - such a dumb thing to say.

[Anonymous]

What's with all of the comments about what Asians do in this post? Can you start another thread?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

No. Actually, it’s possible we lost more kids due to school buildings being shut down from the pandemic. There has been a huge increase in mental health issues and suicides amongst kids since Covid began.

Zero kids age 0-17 have died of Covid in Montgomery County as a result of Covid. ZERO. That was with schools open/schools closed, prior to the Covid shot/after the Covid shot.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/covid19/data/case-counts.html#deaths-age

We did not ‘save kids’ lives’ by keeping schools closed. Not at all.

Agree with the second poster. Some people cannot face what a wrong headed decision this was. Private schools were open. Public schools in red-leaning areas were open. Schools in other countries were open. C'mon, it's 2022, we can open our eyes and admit that we absolutely failed the kids.

Yes to this. Admit it was a mistake and let’s try to fix it.

The death rate of teachers in FLA does not point to it being “a mistake”.

What it was was a terrible situation .. a pandemic, that has caused setbacks everywhere in the US.

Btw 68% of students are at or above the national standard, there are 10-20% that will always be below so we really need to help the other 20%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes disaggregation would be helpful. But I imagine the stats will reflect similar results. Meanwhile the teachers were telling us how everything was fine and virtual school and students loved it better than virtual. 🙄

Many of us knew all along this would happen.

Virtual school was fine for kids who had parents who cared enough to make sure the kids were getting what they needed.

No it wasn’t. My kids did fine academically but suffered considerably emotionally and socially. Virtual was a shit show.

Emotional and social is on you. The discussion is academic

[Anonymous]

I am a big MCPS critic about most things IRL and on this forum. They do a lot of things terribly, especially things that they do in the name of equity for reporting, diluting of magnet programs, selection of candidates, no differentiation, no textbooks, no final exams etc. This is just to make them look good and have a smoke and mirrors way of reporting their shortcoming.

But, I think MCPS did a tremendous job in getting all the kids hooked up to remote learning during the pandemic, the IT team did a good job of creating various platforms for parents and students to ease the online learning and reporting, and they were super lenient about grading the homework submission during lockdown. MCPS did a tremendous job of feeding a lot of students during the pandemic and I will give credit to them for that. We are financially comfortable and even some of our neighbors were making use of the free lunches because they were suddenly responsible for children of family and friends for remote learning pods and feeding them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

Turns out that was a waste of time and money.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/24/pandemic-learning-loss-naep-tests/

Thanks for posting a credible source instead of that fake PR piece the other poster is pushing.

“We kept schools open in 2020, and today’s NAEP results once again prove we made the right decision,” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) said on Twitter.

But the data did not establish a connection between back-to-school policies and academic performance. In California, for instance, many public schools were closed well into the 2020-21 school year, and some students never saw a classroom that year. But the declines were similar to those in Texas and Florida, where schools were ordered to reopen much sooner

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/24/pandemic-learning-loss-naep-tests/

The declines registered were particularly troubling given that American academic performance was already shaky. In early 2020, before the pandemic upended schools, NAEP test scores in both reading and math declined for 13-year-old students, the first drop registered since the tests started to be administered in 1969.

Pandemic made things worse but America was already failing.

I am an Asian-American parent. When I complain about the low standards in American schools, I am doing it out of concern because I have first hand knowledge of what is happening in my Asian country of origin and America - the country I have chosen to immigrate to. I would want US to do well because I am now an American citizen and so are my children. However, any complaint is seen as a critisicm. It should instead be seen as intel that various immigrant groups are bringing to USA. Lets use the information to bring best educational practices, best curriculum, best teaching aids and best textbooks to the US. Why is this so hard?

This is the real issue.