75% of Maryland 8th grade students and 69 percent of 4th grade students are at or below

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Anonymous wrote:All thiis fuss is about a test that just a few kids took in Baltimore County not even MCPS. Get over it already.

+1 seriously. Why is it even in the MCPS forum?

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Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

That I doubt. Southern states’ public schools generally lag way behind the rest of the nation.

+1,000. If you’re actually comparing to the bulk of “Southern states’ public schools” and not cherry picking my the wealthiest suburbs in Texas or Florida.

DP but when DC people move south, we go to the rich areas. Other, poorer school systems are as relevant as Baltimore is to you. We moved south and the schools are much better, by all objective measures. The fact that the schools in backwater Arkansas suck is irrelevant.

Southern states are always at the bottom for public education at least by any objective measure, but whatever you got to tell yourself. Most of the right-wingnuts are already delusional.

Yep, the worst states for education are overwhelmingly (but not exclusively) Southern...

41 Arkansas
42 Oklahoma
43 Mississippi
44 South Carolina
45 West Virginia
46 Arizona
47 Alabama
48 Louisiana

LOL

Based on what metric? Anyone can post random states with random numbers. Nice try, though.

DP.. you are reading a thread that used a test taken by some kids in Baltimore as a sign that MoCo schools must be bad. But yet you question the ^PPs post about using some metric that shows that southern states have bad educational outcomes?

Where were you educated?

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Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

That I doubt. Southern states’ public schools generally lag way behind the rest of the nation.

+1,000. If you’re actually comparing to the bulk of “Southern states’ public schools” and not cherry picking my the wealthiest suburbs in Texas or Florida.

DP but when DC people move south, we go to the rich areas. Other, poorer school systems are as relevant as Baltimore is to you. We moved south and the schools are much better, by all objective measures. The fact that the schools in backwater Arkansas suck is irrelevant.

Southern states are always at the bottom for public education at least by any objective measure, but whatever you got to tell yourself. Most of the right-wingnuts are already delusional.

Yep, the worst states for education are overwhelmingly (but not exclusively) Southern...

41 Arkansas
42 Oklahoma
43 Mississippi
44 South Carolina
45 West Virginia
46 Arizona
47 Alabama
48 Louisiana

LOL

Based on what metric? Anyone can post random states with random numbers. Nice try, though.

DP.. you are reading a thread that used a test taken by some kids in Baltimore as a sign that MoCo schools must be bad. But yet you question the ^PPs post about using some metric that shows that southern states have bad educational outcomes?

Where were you educated?

They're into the phony numbers based on a few kids who took a test in Baltimore County but discounting a US News ranking of states.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

That I doubt. Southern states’ public schools generally lag way behind the rest of the nation.

+1,000. If you’re actually comparing to the bulk of “Southern states’ public schools” and not cherry picking my the wealthiest suburbs in Texas or Florida.

DP but when DC people move south, we go to the rich areas. Other, poorer school systems are as relevant as Baltimore is to you. We moved south and the schools are much better, by all objective measures. The fact that the schools in backwater Arkansas suck is irrelevant.

Southern states are always at the bottom for public education at least by any objective measure, but whatever you got to tell yourself. Most of the right-wingnuts are already delusional.

Yep, the worst states for education are overwhelmingly (but not exclusively) Southern...

41 Arkansas
42 Oklahoma
43 Mississippi
44 South Carolina
45 West Virginia
46 Arizona
47 Alabama
48 Louisiana

LOL

Based on what metric? Anyone can post random states with random numbers. Nice try, though.

US News you know that site known for ranking places of education...

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

So 14 pages of bashing MCPS because a few students in Baltimore County did poorly on some test that nobody even took in MCPS?

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DP. Reading through the posts, I think both versions are true. Different parents had different experiences overall. I had one kid who didn't mind virtual at all, the younger did okay but nothing stellar. Personal opinion - I've heard the kids who had it worst were the kids who were not very tech savvy to start with, or the extroverted personalities that needed a lot of social affirmation?

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Anonymous wrote:So 14 pages of bashing MCPS because a few students in Baltimore County did poorly on some test that nobody even took in MCPS?

Why let a few inconvenient truths get in the way of MCPS bashing!?!

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Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

That I doubt. Southern states’ public schools generally lag way behind the rest of the nation.

+1,000. If you’re actually comparing to the bulk of “Southern states’ public schools” and not cherry picking my the wealthiest suburbs in Texas or Florida.

DP but when DC people move south, we go to the rich areas. Other, poorer school systems are as relevant as Baltimore is to you. We moved south and the schools are much better, by all objective measures. The fact that the schools in backwater Arkansas suck is irrelevant.

Southern states are always at the bottom for public education at least by any objective measure, but whatever you got to tell yourself. Most of the right-wingnuts are already delusional.

Yep, the worst states for education are overwhelmingly (but not exclusively) Southern...

41 Arkansas
42 Oklahoma
43 Mississippi
44 South Carolina
45 West Virginia
46 Arizona
47 Alabama
48 Louisiana

You should really reread what I wrote.

Im not arguing that the south has better or even generally good schools. Im telling you that people who move from DC to the south and that report back that the schools are better are telling the truth. Like in the DC area, schools are divided by richer and poorer communities. That means that you can live in the south as a rich person with great public schools. Here, look at the national rankings of high schools. You'll note that while a few MoCo schools do well in the national rankings, they arent exactly dominating, and southern schools-- and AZ schools especially, which your ranking shows as among the worst-- do very well. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings

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Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

That I doubt. Southern states’ public schools generally lag way behind the rest of the nation.

+1,000. If you’re actually comparing to the bulk of “Southern states’ public schools” and not cherry picking my the wealthiest suburbs in Texas or Florida.

DP but when DC people move south, we go to the rich areas. Other, poorer school systems are as relevant as Baltimore is to you. We moved south and the schools are much better, by all objective measures. The fact that the schools in backwater Arkansas suck is irrelevant.

Southern states are always at the bottom for public education at least by any objective measure, but whatever you got to tell yourself. Most of the right-wingnuts are already delusional.

Yep, the worst states for education are overwhelmingly (but not exclusively) Southern...

41 Arkansas
42 Oklahoma
43 Mississippi
44 South Carolina
45 West Virginia
46 Arizona
47 Alabama
48 Louisiana

You should really reread what I wrote.

Im not arguing that the south has better or even generally good schools. Im telling you that people who move from DC to the south and that report back that the schools are better are telling the truth. Like in the DC area, schools are divided by richer and poorer communities. That means that you can live in the south as a rich person with great public schools. Here, look at the national rankings of high schools. You'll note that while a few MoCo schools do well in the national rankings, they arent exactly dominating, and southern schools-- and AZ schools especially, which your ranking shows as among the worst-- do very well. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings

Why would anyone waste time reading your inane gibberish? Everyone knows the sothern schools are the worst END of STORY!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So 14 pages of bashing MCPS because a few students in Baltimore County did poorly on some test that nobody even took in MCPS?

DCUM gonna DCUM!

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Where are the test results that showed regression was not a problem for MCPS students? Did MCPS actually do better than other counties that returned to in person learning before MCPS?

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Anonymous wrote:Where are the test results that showed regression was not a problem for MCPS students? Did MCPS actually do better than other counties that returned to in person learning before MCPS?

No, they did not.

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Anonymous wrote:I came to this forum curious about MCPS math and this very germane thread happened to be at the top.

We transferred to an affluent town in the south, mostly populated by coastal transplants. The math has been a shock for my kids-- despite being in compacted/accelerated math in MCPS. It's just much more rigorous here.

I read the article and it appears MCPS has been sliding since 2013 and the pandemic accelerated what was already occurring. This is illuminating for me. In the MCPS bubble, it always sounded like they were getting a great education, and now that Im outside of it, I realize it was a mirage. Hopefully people demand better.

It is not MCPS. It's the state of MD.
It seems like most people commenting in this thread have no idea what the NAEP test is about. They test about 2000 students, mostly and generally in the Baltimore area for MD.
Ask your MCPS kids and teachers when was the last time they took the NAEP test. Most students and parents never heard of it.

I’ve been very confused about what data they’re using for MD, but I haven’t been able to find that information anywhere. It just seemed odd that the website didn’t include MCPS in their breakdown of the larger school districts. But it also seems pretty mindboggling that they could base an entire state’s assessment on such a small sample.

Can you point me to your source for this? I’m not doubting you, I’d just like to see for myself and have something to point others to.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

That I doubt. Southern states’ public schools generally lag way behind the rest of the nation.

+1,000. If you’re actually comparing to the bulk of “Southern states’ public schools” and not cherry picking my the wealthiest suburbs in Texas or Florida.

DP but when DC people move south, we go to the rich areas. Other, poorer school systems are as relevant as Baltimore is to you. We moved south and the schools are much better, by all objective measures. The fact that the schools in backwater Arkansas suck is irrelevant.

Southern states are always at the bottom for public education at least by any objective measure, but whatever you got to tell yourself. Most of the right-wingnuts are already delusional.

Yep, the worst states for education are overwhelmingly (but not exclusively) Southern...

41 Arkansas
42 Oklahoma
43 Mississippi
44 South Carolina
45 West Virginia
46 Arizona
47 Alabama
48 Louisiana

You should really reread what I wrote.

Im not arguing that the south has better or even generally good schools. Im telling you that people who move from DC to the south and that report back that the schools are better are telling the truth. Like in the DC area, schools are divided by richer and poorer communities. That means that you can live in the south as a rich person with great public schools. Here, look at the national rankings of high schools. You'll note that while a few MoCo schools do well in the national rankings, they arent exactly dominating, and southern schools-- and AZ schools especially, which your ranking shows as among the worst-- do very well. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings

Why would anyone waste time reading your inane gibberish? Everyone knows the sothern schools are the worst END of STORY!

Enjoy MCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:I have no doubt that there is a loss of learning due to the pandemic and virtual learning. Im just curious as to what some of you would have done differently? I mean going virtual was the only option at a time. Our kids are alive. Not saying they didn’t pay a price, of course, but what’s here is here .

What a joke.

Relocated to a southern state. Schools were open. Kids excelled.

That I doubt. Southern states’ public schools generally lag way behind the rest of the nation.

+1,000. If you’re actually comparing to the bulk of “Southern states’ public schools” and not cherry picking my the wealthiest suburbs in Texas or Florida.

DP but when DC people move south, we go to the rich areas. Other, poorer school systems are as relevant as Baltimore is to you. We moved south and the schools are much better, by all objective measures. The fact that the schools in backwater Arkansas suck is irrelevant.

Southern states are always at the bottom for public education at least by any objective measure, but whatever you got to tell yourself. Most of the right-wingnuts are already delusional.

Yep, the worst states for education are overwhelmingly (but not exclusively) Southern...

41 Arkansas
42 Oklahoma
43 Mississippi
44 South Carolina
45 West Virginia
46 Arizona
47 Alabama
48 Louisiana

You should really reread what I wrote.

Im not arguing that the south has better or even generally good schools. Im telling you that people who move from DC to the south and that report back that the schools are better are telling the truth. Like in the DC area, schools are divided by richer and poorer communities. That means that you can live in the south as a rich person with great public schools. Here, look at the national rankings of high schools. You'll note that while a few MoCo schools do well in the national rankings, they arent exactly dominating, and southern schools-- and AZ schools especially, which your ranking shows as among the worst-- do very well. https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/national-rankings

Why would anyone waste time reading your inane gibberish? Everyone knows the sothern schools are the worst END of STORY!

Enjoy MCPS.

I have for years.. Youngest child is at RMIB and older graduated from Blair SMCS 3 years ago. MCPS provides an amazing education for anyone who really cares to make the most of this opportunity.