HSs with the latest start times

[Anonymous]

GDS starts at 8:45, something that we really appreciate for our 2 kids who have gone (or go) there.
Also, with the open door policy of GDS (there is no fixed time to show up in school, you can go whenever your classes are), our older kid had a free first class in the morning a couple of days a week in junior and senior years, which was an added plus.
Every credible piece of research shows HS age teens benefiting from more sleep, which a late start allows them to have. I wish this would be a policy that every school, private and public, in this country adopts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Field starts at 8:30 for high school.

yeah but it is a d school.

What’s a “d” school?

[Anonymous]

For those looking at this issue as you look at schools, you also have to know your commute the school you are considering to see if the start time will make a difference for you. If the later start time just means you will be sitting in traffic longer, you still have to get up early. In some cases the later time might mean you miss the worst traffic in your area, but it also means parents will be getting to work later (if you work).

When we looked into a later start time for our school, the bus company and many parents took the time to test the commutes to see what would happen if they shifted the start time later. Someone did a spread sheet and simulated sample commutes using google maps too. The bus company said they would have to keep the same pick up times, and a surprising number of parents discovered that they would have to leave their houses at the same time and be early for school, either because of their own jobs or because if they left any later they would be late for the later start time due to significantly increased traffic at the later time. Some found they could leave about 15 minutes later, but the commute changed from 20/25 min. to 45+ min. So very few students were actually going to get more sleep except for the small number of kids who walk to school. If the shift allowed everyone to commute after rush hour to keep a reasonable commute time, it could work, but most parents surveyed said they could then not attend the school as they themselves had to be at work on time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those looking at this issue as you look at schools, you also have to know your commute the school you are considering to see if the start time will make a difference for you. If the later start time just means you will be sitting in traffic longer, you still have to get up early. In some cases the later time might mean you miss the worst traffic in your area, but it also means parents will be getting to work later (if you work).

When we looked into a later start time for our school, the bus company and many parents took the time to test the commutes to see what would happen if they shifted the start time later. Someone did a spread sheet and simulated sample commutes using google maps too. The bus company said they would have to keep the same pick up times, and a surprising number of parents discovered that they would have to leave their houses at the same time and be early for school, either because of their own jobs or because if they left any later they would be late for the later start time due to significantly increased traffic at the later time. Some found they could leave about 15 minutes later, but the commute changed from 20/25 min. to 45+ min. So very few students were actually going to get more sleep except for the small number of kids who walk to school. If the shift allowed everyone to commute after rush hour to keep a reasonable commute time, it could work, but most parents surveyed said they could then not attend the school as they themselves had to be at work on time.

This is true, but mitigated when some of the morning routine can be done in the car. My kid needs an hour to "wake up" before they are functional, including breakfast. But they can get dressed in 5 minutes and are happy to eat/wake up in the car. So a school that started at 8:15 with a 15 min commute would require getting up at 7:15 to leave at 8, but a school that started a 9 with a 60 minute commute would mean getting up at 7:55 to leave at 8. So even though the departure time for those two schools is the same, the later start time allows almost 45min more sleep.

FWIW, I haven't needed to be at a job before 9:30am in decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:GDS starts at 8:45, something that we really appreciate for our 2 kids who have gone (or go) there.
Also, with the open door policy of GDS (there is no fixed time to show up in school, you can go whenever your classes are), our older kid had a free first class in the morning a couple of days a week in junior and senior years, which was an added plus.
Every credible piece of research shows HS age teens benefiting from more sleep, which a late start allows them to have. I wish this would be a policy that every school, private and public, in this country adopts.

I don't see how this applies to the top private schools though. My kid goes to sleep at a time that's dictated by homework and commitments. So, if he slept an hour or two later in the morning, he'd presumably finish those an hour or two later. It wouldn't result in more sleep. It would result in less family time, since he'd be arriving home after his younger sibling would be finished with dinner and moving towards bed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jackson Reed is 9 am! And more kids get into Ivy . Truth bomb!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Burke starts at 8:30, late start one day/wk.

Yup, Burke starts at 9:35 every Monday

[Anonymous]

OP's question is entirely reasonable. What is with the judgmental hate....?

Good luck in finding the right school OP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homeschool. Or get your kid to bed earlier so they get enough sleep. Mine gets up at 6:30 and goes to bed at 9:30, which is 9 hours of sleep.

Thanks but I don't need parenting advice.
-OP

Then why are you asking for advice on a parenting board?

DP. How about a little reading comprehension? She asked for a list of schools that start late. Not for help with her kids sleep schedule. Do you go around offering unsolicited advice to everyone? Here’s mine for you since you are posting on a parenting board - stop being such a “know it all”, it affects your kids’ social life and other parents don’t want to deal with how insufferable you are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homeschool. Or get your kid to bed earlier so they get enough sleep. Mine gets up at 6:30 and goes to bed at 9:30, which is 9 hours of sleep.

Thanks but I don't need parenting advice.
-OP

Then why are you asking for advice on a parenting board?

Asking for schools with later start times it’s not the same thing as asking for “parenting advice.” Are you really that dense?

Is OP’s Google broken?

When I was trying to figure out start times for the schools we were looking at because it impacts commute times, which were an important factor for us, they were really hard to find for some schools. Not all of them list them clearly or at all on their websites.

Also, everyone snarking that OP is trying to get schools to work around their schedule, that’s just stupid. They clearly are not demanding anything of schools that don’t have a later start time. OP is simply asking for information about a criteria that matters to them. It doesn’t have to matter to you.

For those saying do you think college or bosses will cater to a later start time? Newsflash—yes. You get to set your own schedule in college. Is it a guarantee you’ll never have an 8 am science lecture? Of course not. But it’s definitely a possibility. And all of my jobs have started at 9 or later. My husband starts at 10 and works later because that is what fits his personal priorities, so he found a place to work that lets him do that. Is it a guarantee you’ll never have to work before 9? Of course not. But it’s a thing you can prioritize and try to make happen, just like OP is doing now for HS.

Ffs.

OP, you are absolutely correct and science backs you up because teen circadian rhythms skew later—unable to fall asleep until 11 pm/midnight is common, even if they try to go to sleep earlier. I wish more HS recognized this. We’re at SSSAS and it starts at 8:20. With our commute, kid can get up around 7:10. Last year or k-8 was a shorter commute so wake-up was 7:30, which was great. I wish a later wake up was possible for us.

[Anonymous]

I think that we have really reached the absurd when people are triggered by schools starting at different times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Homeschool. Or get your kid to bed earlier so they get enough sleep. Mine gets up at 6:30 and goes to bed at 9:30, which is 9 hours of sleep.

Thanks but I don't need parenting advice.
-OP

You do need parenting advice if you're expecting everything to revolve around your child. He's not five anymore. Oh and there will be an increased homework load and school activities that run late.

What is wrong with you people that you have to make judgmental comments like this in response to OP’s question?

I have a child that struggles with depression and insomnia. Finding a school with a more reasonable start time was definitely a criteria we considered.

SSSAS also starts around 8:30.

SSSAS is 8:20

[Anonymous]

The early start time is designed to make little obedient sheep out of people. Get up early, work your butt off, get into debt, work more to pay off the debt.