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It's not really my taste but then I saw the ad with Derek Jeter with the theme of the American Dream.
Now I really hate it. |
WTH does that mean? It was built a factory. Are you trying to say you built your own vehicle somehow? That makes no sense. |
| I’ve seen this on the roads. It is so top heavy that it looks like it is going to roll over going around turns. |
DP I think the poster was describing the process of essentially re-building and already built, used Wrangler, with different parts and accessories to better suit what they wanted. We’ve done something very similar ourselves. We didn’t spend $100k doing it, but I could definitely see how it would be possible to spend that much. A V8 engine swap, along with a transmission is about $25-$40k depending on engine and trans. Upgraded axles can easily go $20k-$30k for a set depending on model of axle. Transfer case can be $5k-$7k for something exotic. Wheels and tires can easily go $4k for beadlock wheels and big tires. That’s already $70k right there, with a whole lot of other stuff yet to buy and install. A custom-built Wrangler can easily top $150k if you have to rely on a shop to build it for you. And none of that price includes the actual original Jeep being rebuilt. Custom Jeeps are HUGE money. |
| I don’t like the newer models with the car-like suspension. |
Same. But I’m realistic about why they do it. Most of the SUV-type Jeep models will never be used on more than a dirt road or snow. So they have to look pragmatically at the typical buyer of those models and build something competitive with other stuff in the market. As long as the Wrangler, Unlimited and Gladiator are still hard-core off-road vehicles, Jeep is still Jeep. And according to their own research, about 10-12% of the owners of those vehicles actually DO use them off-road regularly. Maybe not 10-12% of the owners here in the DC area, but overall. Jeep’s BOH trail check in program has spurred a lot of owners to go out and run trails who otherwise might not have. |
Anyone who spends that on a glorified minivan that’s less practical is an idiot. (I’m also looking at you Suburban, Yukon XL and Navigator.) Cue all the people jumping in to say they need the towing capacity, but we all know that’s like 5% of the ones you see around the DMV. It’s a financial flex and nothing more. Anyone actually concerned with usability would just get a loaded minivan. |
At least a minivan can be hybrid these days! |
So can full size SUV’s. For about the last decade
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Same. Unless that’s a plug in hybrid, I’m not a fan. |
It is available as a PHEV. Does that now change your opinion, or will you just move the goalposts and find some other reason to disapprove of it ? |
But a minvan is half the price and more comfortable and practical. |
| Yeah my neighbor’s 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee just stopped working and was declared at end of life. I just can’t believe anyone would willing buy a Jeep. Or pay that much for one. |