Obviously MCPS can't correct all the problems of society; no one is suggesting that they should. But I see nothing wrong with MCPS trying to correct the school-based problems cited in the report. |
Only white people speak English. #fact |
Why do you think racial (and I mean racial, not socioeconomic) disparities exist? |
Differences in cultural and familial priorities/emphasis. |
Do you know a lot of Black parents? |
Yes. And they agree. Do you? |
Did the racial equity audit for MCPS find that? No, it's completely superficial. Because that's all we do. It makes us feel good but does absolutely nothing else. |
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We are doing ourselves a huge disservice with the way we have framed the racial equity conversation. The audit is nothing but a bunch of studies about how people feel, and what they perceive. There is no science behind any of this.
I have a question for those who think performance disparities mean there is systemic racism within the schools: Asian students outperform everyone on every measure. Graduation rates, English proficiency, SAT scores, AP test scores, and so on. Is the system somehow set up to advantage Asian students above everyone else, including whites? Because that's what the data shows. The superficial data that everyone takes as gospel. |
Lol yes and that's how I know you are lying |
Not that poster, but 42% of the Black American adults in the county are foreign-born, and I'd venture to say they are more in line with what PP is saying than what you are saying. It's actually a mix. Both systems issues and cultural issues. |
Unfortunately those problems stem from larger societal problems and are beyond mcps' pervue. |
Foreign born Black people have better outcomes than those that are not foreign born because they and their families have not been as impacted by racism as those that are born here. |
We don't "take superficial data gospel". We look at it in the context of empirical studies from outside the county that inform what is happening, as well as an understanding of the history of this country and how it impacts education, particularly of Black children. Unfortunately the history you and I were taught in schools was severely lacking in a lot of context about racism, such as the fact that when schools were desegregated, Black teachers were kicked out of the teaching workforce and have not really been able to return. It is complex and not really something that can be explained in a internet forum, especially to people who are determined not to learn it. But if you are truly interested in this, there are a lot of free resources on the internet about this, including why Asian children as a group tend to do well. But I hope you start with learning about anti-Black racism in education because that is really what drives a lot of this. |
| The best thing mcps can do is provide a rigorous education for all students to help them succeed in college, while being conscious of implicit bias against boys and masculine behavior, bias against URMs, and their racist policy to lower Asian admissions in criteria-based magnet programs. |
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“That is blatantly untrue, given that there are disparate outcomes not just by SES but also specifically by race. ”
Genuinely asking … Can you point me to where in the report (or elsewhere) they provide race data that is controlled for SES? Anytime I see race data it seems not to have been controlled for the family’s income level and so obviously conflates the two issues. |