UVA or Georgetown

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This topic is really the button for UVA boosters.

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Anonymous wrote:65% students from VA at UVA. Sure it is cheaper for in state, it’s high school all over again.

Yes, 65 percent of entering first years are residents of the 12th most populated state in the US. 8.7 million, to be exactly. Other than TJ, no more than 1/2 of one percent of the entering class graduated from the same high school. That the number is higher for TJ says more about the quality of UVA than anything else, since it's generally regardless as the nation's best public high school (no, my kids didn't attend TJ).

If you want to spend three times as much money to send your kid to a private college whose academic reputation and offerings are no better (and, let's be honest, generally not as good) just to avoid the possibility of a passing glance of a high school classmate on campus, then have at it. Some of us are reasonable.

Academic reputation is no better? Name one ranking in which UVA is higher than G’TOWN.

UVA's "peer assessment" score in US News has always been higher than Georgetown's. UVA's undergrad business school has always been more highly ranked than Georgetown's. Many of UVA's departments in the College of Arts & Sciences (English, History, foreign languages, etc.) are more highly ranked than Georgetown's. Shall I continue?

You might want to google before you speak.

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Anonymous wrote:This topic is really the button for UVA boosters.

And Georgetown boosters. Perfect storm!

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UVA's peer assessment score in US New is 4.3. Georgetown's is 4.2.

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Georgetown (from a Georgetown reject in the 80s)--mother of a UVA reject from a couple years ago but the kid currently at Dartmouth--such randomness in college acceptances.

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Anonymous wrote:For most students for most majors, UVA.

Agree.

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How do you feel about the potential impact of Youngkin’s ability to appoint members to the BoV, which governs the school? (Within the next few years, virtually all appointees will be by Youngkin, which could have a lot of implications for what/how things are taught at UVA.)

Nothing will change.

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All governors appoint their cronies. The faculty teach what they want.

Ask professors in Florida if that’s true. Or ask the professors who’ve left Wisconsin-Madison after they weakened tenure protections.

Ok, what would those professors say? Do you have actual examples of profs fired for teaching “wrong” things? And what exactly did either state do to tenured profs?

Well, three said that DeSantis tried to prevent them from testifying as experts in a voting rights lawsuit against the state, for starters: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/04/us/florida-professors-lawsuit.html

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How do you feel about the potential impact of Youngkin’s ability to appoint members to the BoV, which governs the school? (Within the next few years, virtually all appointees will be by Youngkin, which could have a lot of implications for what/how things are taught at UVA.)

Nothing will change.

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All governors appoint their cronies. The faculty teach what they want.

Ask professors in Florida if that’s true. Or ask the professors who’ve left Wisconsin-Madison after they weakened tenure protections. Who runs a state has real implications for public universities—especially when the people who run the state are Republicans who relied on the culture war to win their elections.

We're not talking about Florida. We're not talking about Wisconsin either. We're talking about Virginia, where among other things governors are limited to one term. Yes, Youngkin is nuts but he's not the first Republican governor Virginia has ever had. UVA will outlive him, trust me.

His BOV appointees will be there long after he’s gone. Republican BOV appointees are the ones who tried to push out UVA’s president ten years ago for not running the university like a business. The culture warrior folks Youngkin is appointing now will push their own agendas for years to come.

[Anonymous]

OP did you really just ask if cost is a factor in college decisions? Have people really become this brain damaged when it comes to college (probably thanks to Papa Biden free college money)

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Anonymous wrote:OP did you really just ask if cost is a factor in college decisions? Have people really become this brain damaged when it comes to college (probably thanks to Papa Biden free college money)

Op here. We will be full pay. DS wants to be a doctor. We plan to pay for both his undergrad and grad school tuition and can afford private for both.

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How do you feel about the potential impact of Youngkin’s ability to appoint members to the BoV, which governs the school? (Within the next few years, virtually all appointees will be by Youngkin, which could have a lot of implications for what/how things are taught at UVA.)

Nothing will change.

+1

All governors appoint their cronies. The faculty teach what they want.

Ask professors in Florida if that’s true. Or ask the professors who’ve left Wisconsin-Madison after they weakened tenure protections. Who runs a state has real implications for public universities—especially when the people who run the state are Republicans who relied on the culture war to win their elections.

We're not talking about Florida. We're not talking about Wisconsin either. We're talking about Virginia, where among other things governors are limited to one term. Yes, Youngkin is nuts but he's not the first Republican governor Virginia has ever had. UVA will outlive him, trust me.

His BOV appointees will be there long after he’s gone. Republican BOV appointees are the ones who tried to push out UVA’s president ten years ago for not running the university like a business. The culture warrior folks Youngkin is appointing now will push their own agendas for years to come.

Blah blah blah. I hate Youngkin as much as the next poster but you're overstating this. The school is and will be fine. And, yes, Republican BOV appointees "tried" to push out President Sullivan. "Try" is the operative word, isn't it?

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Anonymous wrote:

How do you feel about the potential impact of Youngkin’s ability to appoint members to the BoV, which governs the school? (Within the next few years, virtually all appointees will be by Youngkin, which could have a lot of implications for what/how things are taught at UVA.)

Nothing will change.

+1

All governors appoint their cronies. The faculty teach what they want.

Ask professors in Florida if that’s true. Or ask the professors who’ve left Wisconsin-Madison after they weakened tenure protections. Who runs a state has real implications for public universities—especially when the people who run the state are Republicans who relied on the culture war to win their elections.

We're not talking about Florida. We're not talking about Wisconsin either. We're talking about Virginia, where among other things governors are limited to one term. Yes, Youngkin is nuts but he's not the first Republican governor Virginia has ever had. UVA will outlive him, trust me.

His BOV appointees will be there long after he’s gone. Republican BOV appointees are the ones who tried to push out UVA’s president ten years ago for not running the university like a business. The culture warrior folks Youngkin is appointing now will push their own agendas for years to come.

Blah blah blah. I hate Youngkin as much as the next poster but you're overstating this. The school is and will be fine. And, yes, Republican BOV appointees "tried" to push out President Sullivan. "Try" is the operative word, isn't it?

Look, I hope UVA is OK; I care about public education and want it to thrive. But it’s a perilous time for it, especially in states with Republicans in power. We ignore that at our peril.

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Anonymous wrote:Which is better for business school?

Georgetown, marginally. More important: Georgetown's business school is direct admit, while UVA's is not.

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Anonymous wrote:

How do you feel about the potential impact of Youngkin’s ability to appoint members to the BoV, which governs the school? (Within the next few years, virtually all appointees will be by Youngkin, which could have a lot of implications for what/how things are taught at UVA.)

Nothing will change.

+1

All governors appoint their cronies. The faculty teach what they want.

Ask professors in Florida if that’s true. Or ask the professors who’ve left Wisconsin-Madison after they weakened tenure protections. Who runs a state has real implications for public universities—especially when the people who run the state are Republicans who relied on the culture war to win their elections.

We're not talking about Florida. We're not talking about Wisconsin either. We're talking about Virginia, where among other things governors are limited to one term. Yes, Youngkin is nuts but he's not the first Republican governor Virginia has ever had. UVA will outlive him, trust me.

His BOV appointees will be there long after he’s gone. Republican BOV appointees are the ones who tried to push out UVA’s president ten years ago for not running the university like a business. The culture warrior folks Youngkin is appointing now will push their own agendas for years to come.

Blah blah blah. I hate Youngkin as much as the next poster but you're overstating this. The school is and will be fine. And, yes, Republican BOV appointees "tried" to push out President Sullivan. "Try" is the operative word, isn't it?

Look, I hope UVA is OK; I care about public education and want it to thrive. But it’s a perilous time for it, especially in states with Republicans in power. We ignore that at our peril.

For Pete's sake, nobody is ignoring it. Obviously we need to be vigilant. But to suggest that Youngkin being governor is a factor to consider in whether your kid chooses UVA in state for one-third the cost of Georgetown is insane.

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Anonymous wrote:Which is better for business school?

Georgetown, marginally. More important: Georgetown's business school is direct admit, while UVA's is not.

What a joke. While Georgetown's business school is certainly strong enough that it may make sense to choose it over UVA because it is direct admit/guarantee and UVA's is not, there's no denying that, admissions aside, UVA's business school is better than Georgetown's.