Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks

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Anonymous wrote:The feminine dilemma of being unattractive because you are a round lump vs. being unattractive because you look old.

I love the advice in here about losing the weight slowly. Are you kidding me? I will lose the weight any way I possibly can! Weight loss (especially substantial weight loss) can be difficult to make happen in any state and a lot of the difficulty comes from getting yourself in the right mental state to do it. So making THAT part more difficult -- psyching yourself up to make those tough choices, and then putting a hold on that and going back to normal for a while, and then psyching yourself up to start again -- I'm sure some people can do that but no thank you. IT IS HARD ENOUGH! Not gonna make it harder on myself.

I'm not going to say I hate this thread and everyone in here, exactly ... but some of it is not good imho.


I am one of the posters who recommended this. I don't think you understand. If you stop eating and lose five pounds or more in a week it won't be sustainable and you will gain it back. But if you lose one or two pounds than your body adjusts to your new weight gradually. So, you have to have more patience but, it isn't harder.

I am a person who was 190 three years ago and now I weigh 143. I still have to lose about 8 more pounds but, I am much better than I was at 190. Do you understand?


I'm the poster who has lost over 75 lbs in the past year so I think I can wrap my mind around what you're saying, thanks. And fwiw, the actual advice in the thread I was taking issue with wasn't just to lose slowly, but to lose and then to STOP LOSING ALTOGETHER for a month or three and then to start up again:

So lose 10 lbs, pause and maintain for a month, lose 10 more. Or lose for 6 months, pause and maintain for 3 months, go back to losing.


I don't think I could have had the same successful weight loss journey if I had stopped trying to lose weight every month or so to level out and just maintain, and then worked myself up to losing again after another one to three months. My weight loss progress has mostly been a pound or two a week anyway, so I'm already practicing pretty healthy and sustainable habits. For someone like me who needed to lose a lot of weight, that whole stop and start approach would have been incredibly hard. If I had done what I did last year and lost 35 pounds in six months, and then heard this lecture that I needed to take a sunken cheeks three-month breather and just maintain (rather than losing another 35 lbs across the next 6 months), I would probably have stopped altogether. I would have lost all the momentum and positivity I was feeling just to add delay because a random person thinks it's a good idea. Maybe this would be helpful for folks who are trying to lose 10 or 15 pounds, or for folks needing to lose more who are psychologically built differently than I am, but holy moly I would never have made it this far doing that.

This whole idea that you're going to encourage people to put up additional psychological and temporal road blocks to making progress on their weight loss because someone somewhere thinks their friend's cheeks look sunken is in my opinion not very helpful but YMMV. I am glad that the approach you have described has worked for you over the last 3 years as you have progressed on your weight loss journey, but I hope you can understand that I also feel much better at 177 right now than I did 13 months ago at 256, that my approach has worked for me (though it won't work for everyone else), that my cheeks aren't sunken, and that for some people encouraging a mid-loss delay will just halt weight loss progress altogether and change their mindset. Weight loss is already hard, we don't really need to make it harder imho.


You don't do the weight loss pause to prevent sunken cheeks; some research suggests that periodic pauses are associated with better weight maintenance after weight loss. Which is for many much harder than losing weight in the first place. Note, your body often does the pauses for you with plateaus--many people find it more psychologically helpful to plan the plateaus themselves in their dieting--so they don't have the experience of restricting calories more and more and not getting anywhere. Intentional pauses seem for at least some people head off the inevitable plateaus. But like most diet advice, YMMV.
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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like maybe you are trying to figure out how to get your DH to look younger than he looks now. If he lost weight during lockdown he might not have updated his wardrobe. Get him some trendier clothes with a slimmer fit. He may look better with some stubble but not a full beard, so he might benefit from a barber trip. There are things you/he can do outside of weight to lose some of the older look if desired. Better clothes are a common fix that is French accompany weight loss anyway.



Same thing happened to my husband- upping his skin care game helped as well and getting a different haircut. A different hair cut b/c fat under your skin makes your hair stand up more, as you lose that layer of fait, your hair falls differently from your head, the same cut looks different so you have to tweak the cut. Agree with new clothes, shoes.


Thanks for the tip about the hair.
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My dermatologist said that your skin is the last to catch up when you drop weight, so if you have lost weight, give yourself some time and you'll end up looking better than initially.

Caveat: This was is in reference to people who lose weight by excersise/diet, *not* people who drop weight because they are sick.
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Anonymous wrote:Slowing down and pausing during weight loss gives skin chance to tighten (and also helps promote weight maintenance). So lose 10 lbs, pause and maintain for a month, lose 10 more. Or lose for 6 months, pause and maintain for 3 months, go back to losing.

Also setting a target weight that is slightly overweight or at the upper end of BMI rather than the weight you looked best at when you were in your 20s/30s. Older people are often more attractive/look younger at a higher BMI than younger people. Post 50 being slightly overweight (e.g. BMI of 26) is also associated with the lowest all-cause mortality.

My grandma used to say that fat people get sick, and skinny people die. There really is something to having a little extra reserves as you get older, which can help carry you through an illness.


Does Grandma realize we ALL are going to die?


I’d rather die from what ails me than stay alive on live support or
Hospice while my body lives off of my accumulated fat, frankly.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Slowing down and pausing during weight loss gives skin chance to tighten (and also helps promote weight maintenance). So lose 10 lbs, pause and maintain for a month, lose 10 more. Or lose for 6 months, pause and maintain for 3 months, go back to losing.

Also setting a target weight that is slightly overweight or at the upper end of BMI rather than the weight you looked best at when you were in your 20s/30s. Older people are often more attractive/look younger at a higher BMI than younger people. Post 50 being slightly overweight (e.g. BMI of 26) is also associated with the lowest all-cause mortality.

My grandma used to say that fat people get sick, and skinny people die. There really is something to having a little extra reserves as you get older, which can help carry you through an illness.


Does Grandma realize we ALL are going to die?


I’d rather die from what ails me than stay alive on live support or
Hospice while my body lives off of my accumulated fat, frankly.


It's not about life support/hospice--it's the likelihood of whether you will die from something simple like pneumonia or another infection. Being slightly overweight is generally protective in old age. Just good to know for older dieters.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's a reason for the old idiom that at a certain age, you have to choose between your face and your ass.


I would agree because I've heard this for years, but no, I chose my face AND my ass thank you. Both skinny. Both beautiful.
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This is because older people eat crazy to lose weight. If you are starving yourself it shows.
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So in summary, the general solution (though not a guarantee) is slow and steady. Rapid weight loss — more than a pound (or two?) a week — is more likely to lead to that sunken/gaunt face look.

Also, loss of too much fat all at once can lead to (more than expected) hair loss. Make sure you’re consuming the right amounts of nutrients to help keep hair healthy.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Slowing down and pausing during weight loss gives skin chance to tighten (and also helps promote weight maintenance). So lose 10 lbs, pause and maintain for a month, lose 10 more. Or lose for 6 months, pause and maintain for 3 months, go back to losing.

Also setting a target weight that is slightly overweight or at the upper end of BMI rather than the weight you looked best at when you were in your 20s/30s. Older people are often more attractive/look younger at a higher BMI than younger people. Post 50 being slightly overweight (e.g. BMI of 26) is also associated with the lowest all-cause mortality.

My grandma used to say that fat people get sick, and skinny people die. There really is something to having a little extra reserves as you get older, which can help carry you through an illness.


Does Grandma realize we ALL are going to die?


I’d rather die from what ails me than stay alive on live support or
Hospice while my body lives off of my accumulated fat, frankly.


It's not about life support/hospice--it's the likelihood of whether you will die from something simple like pneumonia or another infection. Being slightly overweight is generally protective in old age. Just good to know for older dieters.


I think this why doctors tell older people, like my grandma, to drink whole milk instead of 2% or skim.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I lost 45 pounds at 48. If I have any good features (this is up for debate), it's my cheekbones and eyes, which both look more prominent now.

I have no problem with looking the actual age that I am and I certainly feel better at 115 than I did at 160. I have always been a reluctant exerciser and finally have stuck to 6 days a week for 2 straight years. I don't care if someone doesn't like some of my body parts. Look away! (Plus my weight does not put me into gaunt territory - I'm not tall).


Good job. 115 is low though, are you really short? I am just wondering because I am trying to lose and my goal weight is 148! Maybe I should aim for lower number.
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Actually losing weight makes me look younger
I know that’s crazy, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Actually losing weight makes me look younger
I know that’s crazy, right?


It makes most people look younger, only those who have been clinically obese for years get this aging look when they finally lose.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Actually losing weight makes me look younger
I know that’s crazy, right?


It makes most people look younger, only those who have been clinically obese for years get this aging look when they finally lose.


Tom Hanks, Maria Shriver, Helen Hunt, Jake gyllenhal (sp?), all look much older
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There's a reason for the old idiom that at a certain age, you have to choose between your face and your ass.


I haven’t heard this but in my case it is certainly true!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Actually losing weight makes me look younger
I know that’s crazy, right?


It makes most people look younger, only those who have been clinically obese for years get this aging look when they finally lose.


Tom Hanks, Maria Shriver, Helen Hunt, Jake gyllenhal (sp?), all look much older


Were they ever obese though? For an extended number of years? I don't think so. Hanks is famously yo-yo and has certainly had cosmetic procedures on his face, without question.

I know Steve Buscemi looks haggard because he WAS obese when young and lost a huge amount of weight.
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